SAV.com - $5.95 .com Registrations

[Silentptnr]

I haven't used them yet but I noticed they have .com for $5.95 and are icann accredited.

I noticed another member has been registering names with them.

Anyone have feedback about them?

@twiki Can you share your experience so far?

 

[branding]

Text was the issue for me

I think they're messing up the country code in the telephone number. I explicitly used +31 (my CC) and registrant info showed differently.

 

[Domain_savvy]

Sav,
Can you guys allow to remove and add payment methods whenever needed?
I have added my card but unable to remove it after the transaction. Usually i remove the card when the work is done, a step of caution i practice regardless of how fortified a payment gateway is.
Please add this step for users.

 

[ramkumaritrvs]

Add Crypto payment

 

[vij]

add authentification method like "AUTHY", Like The One Namesilo Uses.

I am still holding out as I don't like giving out my card details, PayPal would be nice

 

[vast]

add authentification method like "AUTHY", Like The One Namesilo Uses.

Agree, TOTP authentication method is the de facto standard.

 

[DAN.COM]

You can sell domains there too, the landers are a sharp and precise 100% copies of DAN, I notified @DAN.COM long ago.
That cheap .com registration was already there in september when people were going crazy over epik's 6.99$ 300 likes.

I'm sure they won't be around long if they blatantly keep copying our UI/UX. We'll look into who the owner of SAV is, but Emerge Media is a seller with us that parks all their domains with DAN as well so we'd be surprised if they are the owners of SAV.

 

[Chris Hydrick]

We'll look into who the owner of SAV is, but Emerge Media is a seller with us that parks all their domains with DAN as well so we'd be surprised if they are the owners of SAV.

I don't think there is a huge mystery here. https://www.sav.com/pages/terms_toc

@Nick R (I assume is the CTO)

As for Anthos C (CEO) there is a public linkedin profile linking him as the founder and CEO of Emerge Media, INC.

Maybe you're thinking of a different Emerge Media?

Also noting, the Sav.com landing pages I've seen appeared to be seller (Sav Customer) owned listings.

---------------.com is owned and listed by a Sav customer. Get your domains listed today.

And as noted in my previous screenshot, the option to sell my domain in my Sav domain management console is currently not available, stating Coming Soon. Possibly suggesting it's currently in beta or invite only mode.

 

[efizi]

Hello Everyone! Nick from the Sav team here. We appreciate all the great feedback in this thread and look forward to be an active participant on namePros moving forward. Let me see if I can add some clarity to a few points in this thread:

Payment Methods:
We currently work credit card processor called Braintree which is actually owned by PayPal. We use their Drop-In credit card integration which means your card details are sent directly to Braintree and never once hit our own servers. Because your card is tokenized and securely stored at Braintree, we are able to automatically process payments for your won auctions and caught backorders without having to ask for an authorization every time like we would with PayPal. Expanding our payment methods is something this is on our roadmap though.

NameKing:
We did acquire the NameKing ICANN accreditation about a year ago and have been working to re-brand it as Sav. We will continue to add new features and expand the number of TLDs we offer.

URL Redirects & DNS:
We just launched this feature a few hours ago! You can now set free redirects and free DNS from your Sav.com account by going to the domain’s settings page.

Hello @Nick R
I do have a question about the auctions at Sav.com. Why does the auction process differ from every other domain auction site we know? When an auction is won, the bidder with the winning bid has time frame to pay for the domain, Godaddy has 48hrs and the other sites has their respective period also. So why the use of "Preauthorized Payment" when bidding for domains?

I placed a bid for a domain last week Friday but did not win, however, my card was charged because the preauthorized payment involved. Now that I did not win I am yet to get a refund for the sum charged. So this makes me think, assuming there were 114 bidders interested in a name and the auction ended in say $3,500.00, what happens to the preauthorized payment made by the 113 bidders who lost in action? Will Sav be refunding dollars every day for bidders who did not win? If 100 of the 114 bidders placed a bid above $1,000.00 then that means Sav just charged at least $100,000.00 from bidders who did not win the name. This, to my knowledge, does not happen in any auction in the domain industry.

So, I am quite confused about this modus operandi. I will appreciate if you can clarify further on this,

I also look forward to a refund of the preauthorized payment made for the bid I placed last Friday. I assume this should be almost immediate since the winning bidder has already paid for the domain.

Regards.

 

[Soofi]

Hello @Nick R
I do have a question about the auctions at Sav.com. Why does the auction process differ from every other domain auction site we know? When an auction is won, the bidder with the winning bid has time frame to pay for the domain, Godaddy has 48hrs and the other sites has their respective period also. So why the use of "Preauthorized Payment" when bidding for domains?

I placed a bid for a domain last week Friday but did not win, however, my card was charged because the preauthorized payment involved. Now that I did not win I am yet to get a refund for the sum charged. So this makes me think, assuming there were 114 bidders interested in a name and the auction ended in say $3,500.00, what happens to the preauthorized payment made by the 113 bidders who lost in action? Will Sav be refunding dollars every day for bidders who did not win? If 100 of the 114 bidders placed a bid above $1,000.00 then that means Sav just charged at least $100,000.00 from bidders who did not win the name. This, to my knowledge, does not happen in any auction in the domain industry.

So, I am quite confused about this modus operandi. I will appreciate if you can clarify further on this,

I also look forward to a refund of the preauthorized payment made for the bid I placed last Friday. I assume this should be almost immediate since the winning bidder has already paid for the domain.

Regards.

This is bizarre.. Did SAV respond?

 

[efizi]

This is bizarre.. Did SAV respond?

I have only reached out via this thread, so I await a response from @Nick R

 

[corpdot]

Will SAV.com provide WHMCS module for domain registration?

 

[davidc1]

Useless for me without afternic fast transfer

 

[Nick R]

We hope everyone had a great weekend and are grateful for the opportunity to answer all the great questions and suggestions.

Premium Domain Pricing – These are all domains owned by private sellers, not Sav. The prices for these domains are set by the sellers.

Two Factor Auth – We currently support SMS and Email for 2FA at this time but will look into adding additional options in the future. If anyone has an issue setting this up, please send a ticket to support(at)sav(dot)com and we will be happy to take a look.

Payment Method Removal – You can have a payment method removed by sending in a ticket to support(at)sav(dot)com

Landing Page UI – We are actively working on optimizing the UI of this page and make frequent changes to it. There will be multiple versions published over the next few months. We look forward to allowing all of our customers to list their domains (both at Sav and other registrars) for sale on Sav very soon!

Auction Bid Pre-Auth – As part of our bidder verification and fraud detection system, we pre-auth bids from all new bidders on Sav. A pre-auth is not a charge, it’s just a verification to ensure the card is active and has the fund available in the account if the bidder wins the auction. Once a bidder has won two auctions that were successfully paid for, we stop all pre-auths for that user. When an auction ends, we cancel all the pre-authorizations for those bidders that did not win. These usually take a just a few days to be processed and released depending the bidders bank.

WHMCS – This is a great suggestion. We can look into doing this after we launch our reseller platform later next year.

 

[Recons.Com]

some thoughts:

- I don't believe DAN owns some kind of copyright to a plain look vanilla landing page. They were around before them, will be after too... It certainly is not a copy-paste. So SAV is fine from that perspective.

- How can DAN guarantee to clients that they will take ownership in less than 24 hours? They don't own the names and an actual owner might be hiking in mountains for a weekend.

 

[capybara]

- I don't believe DAN owns some kind of copyright to a plain look vanilla landing page. They were around before them, will be after too... It certainly is not a copy-paste. So SAV is fine from that perspective.

You must have missed the Apple vs Samsung $1 billion thing. Designs do have copyright protection. And Sav looks obviously like an Undeveloped ripoff; if I were Dan, I would already be in touch with the lawyers to file a lawsuit.

 

[Recons.Com]

You must have missed the Apple vs Samsung $1 billion thing. Designs do have copyright protection. And Sav looks obviously like an Undeveloped ripoff; if I were Dan, I would already be in touch with the lawyers to file a lawsuit.

Oh, another secret IP lawyer? )) You are confusing things, sir. Your excel spreadsheet will look as much similar to google spreadsheets or apple spreadsheets, as SAV lander looks to DAN. And, I am sure, DAN did not invent those, as they were not even around just few years back.

A design for a new product can revolutionize your industry, and the right logo design can help your business stand out in the crowd. Copyright law, however, only protects intellectual property that is fixed in a tangible form -- such as a book, piece of art or movie -- so many designs can't be copyrighted. To determine whether your design is covered by copyright law, you'll need to figure out whether your design can be fixed in some tangible form.

Copyright-eligible Designs


To be eligible for protection, your design will have to be represented in some tangible object. For example, if you come up with a new purse design and then create the purse, you'll need to copyright the purse. By doing so, you'll also be copyrighting the design. Further, your design will have to be original. You can't, for example, add some glitter to someone else's purse design and then copyright it.

- I'd like to see DAN designed lander-purse ))))

- They'd still have to prove that their design was original and not glitter to someone else's design )

Now Apple's design was in a tangible object - phone. I hope you see the difference now.

 

[branding]

Oh, another secret IP lawyer? )) You are confusing things, sir. Your excel spreadsheet will look as much similar to google spreadsheets or apple spreadsheets, as SAV lander looks to DAN. And, I am sure, DAN did not invent those, as they were not even around just few years back.



- I'd like to see DAN designed lander-purse ))))

- They'd still have to prove that their design was original and not glitter to someone else's design )

Now Apple's design was in a tangible object - phone. I hope you see the difference now.

Unless there's blatent copy of certain images, text,logos colours scheme etc of a copyrighted page it's hard to prove infringement, if there's any at all.

Holding copyright does not prevent anyone else from recreating the same look and feel, as long as they use their own source code.

It's a bit more complicated than that but basically that's how it works if you don't take additional steps to protect your design.

Lame move? Definitely. Copyright infringement? Open for debate.

 

[capybara]

Oh, another secret IP lawyer? )) You are confusing things, sir. Your excel spreadsheet will look as much similar to google spreadsheets or apple spreadsheets, as SAV lander looks to DAN. And, I am sure, DAN did not invent those, as they were not even around just few years back.



- I'd like to see DAN designed lander-purse ))))

- They'd still have to prove that their design was original and not glitter to someone else's design )

Now Apple's design was in a tangible object - phone. I hope you see the difference now.

You know when you were away from keyboard to get that coffee your 100-year old granny sneaked into and wrote a post here? Maybe not, but it is the only thing I can think of to explain how such prehistoric views could appear on a forum about domaining, which is a digital industry.

The legal term is trade dress, and in the modern digital age people are routinely engaged in legal fights over it, for apps and websites. Its not always easy to prove, and its not always worth fighting, as copystealing is everywhere on the internets, but in the case of this very small industry and involved subjects being in direct competition... its all so much simpler than something like a German car magazine vs Australian barbershop would be.

 

[DAN.COM]

We hope everyone had a great weekend and are grateful for the opportunity to answer all the great questions and suggestions.

Premium Domain Pricing – These are all domains owned by private sellers, not Sav. The prices for these domains are set by the sellers.

Two Factor Auth – We currently support SMS and Email for 2FA at this time but will look into adding additional options in the future. If anyone has an issue setting this up, please send a ticket to support(at)sav(dot)com and we will be happy to take a look.

Payment Method Removal – You can have a payment method removed by sending in a ticket to support(at)sav(dot)com

Landing Page UI – We are actively working on optimizing the UI of this page and make frequent changes to it. There will be multiple versions published over the next few months. We look forward to allowing all of our customers to list their domains (both at Sav and other registrars) for sale on Sav very soon!

Auction Bid Pre-Auth – As part of our bidder verification and fraud detection system, we pre-auth bids from all new bidders on Sav. A pre-auth is not a charge, it’s just a verification to ensure the card is active and has the fund available in the account if the bidder wins the auction. Once a bidder has won two auctions that were successfully paid for, we stop all pre-auths for that user. When an auction ends, we cancel all the pre-authorizations for those bidders that did not win. These usually take a just a few days to be processed and released depending the bidders bank.

WHMCS – This is a great suggestion. We can look into doing this after we launch our reseller platform later next year.

See the Cease and Desist letter we've sent you.

some thoughts:

- I don't believe DAN owns some kind of copyright to a plain look vanilla landing page. They were around before them, will be after too... It certainly is not a copy-paste. So SAV is fine from that perspective.

- How can DAN guarantee to clients that they will take ownership in less than 24 hours? They don't own the names and an actual owner might be hiking in mountains for a weekend.

We 100% have copyright over our UI/UX elements. We invest millions in designing our product pages and have track change records to prove how we got to our design.

 

[Embrand]

In my opinion, SAV's landers are far too similar to DAN's, just like Epik's TrustRatings is a copy of TrustPilot. Having said that, it is always nice to see new service providers.

A bit confusing that there is also a new domain company based at the almost similar domain SAW.com, by the way. I know SAW are brokers, but I already get these two confused.

 

[Nikhil Jain]

Competition is fine in its place. But SAV entering the industry with landing page look similar to DAN looks to me an immature start.

We have still not heard from them about the secret of the $280 domains.

 

[Recons.Com]

You know when you were away from keyboard to get that coffee your 100-year old granny sneaked into and wrote a post here? Maybe not, but it is the only thing I can think of to explain how such prehistoric views could appear on a forum about domaining, which is a digital industry.

The legal term is trade dress, and in the modern digital age people are routinely engaged in legal fights over it, for apps and websites. Its not always easy to prove, and its not always worth fighting, as copystealing is everywhere on the internets, but in the case of this very small industry and involved subjects being in direct competition... its all so much simpler than something like a German car magazine vs Australian barbershop would be.

So what happened to your assertion that it was copyright matter, digital genius?

Now it is trade dress?

No one in their clear mind will think they are on dan page when visiting sav page.

Any person who, on or in connection with any goods or services, or any container for goods, uses in commerce any word, term, name, symbol, or device, or any combination thereof, or any false designation of origin, false or misleading description of fact, or false or misleading representation of fact, which
(A) is likely to cause confusion, or to cause mistake, or to deceive [...] as to the origin, sponsorship, or approval of his or her goods, services, or commercial activities by another person, or
(B) in commercial advertising or promotion, misrepresents the nature, characteristics, qualities, or geographic origin of his or her or another person’s goods, services, or commercial activities,
shall be liable in a civil action by any person who believes that he or she is likely to be damaged by such an act

 

[Chris Hydrick]

We have still not heard from them about the secret of the $280 domains.

They addressed that already

Premium Domain Pricing – These are all domains owned by private sellers, not Sav. The prices for these domains are set by the sellers.

Also, not all Sav.com landing pages have $280 BINs. Note, the screenshot I posted earlier has a $495 BIN + $7.95 incoming transfer fee.

 

[Nick R]

Hello All – Being that it is Christmas Eve we are not open today but we wanted to quickly clarify a few things. We have always respected DAN and think they have a phenomenal service. Our Premium Domain Marketplace is only in beta at the moment and we never intended to officially launch with the current UI. Shortly after the New Year we are planning an official launch of our marketplace for all sellers and will make sure namePros is the first place we make the announcement!

 

[Corey]

Com Backorder & Registration is now $6.95
io transfer $24.95

Cheers
Corey