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information A Guide to Brandable Domains, With BrandBucket's Michael Krell

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I’ll admit that I know very little about brandable domain names. With the occurrence of the popular Chinese short and numeric domain markets, and the great keyword names on offer, the brandable world has slipped under my radar. After reading about a number of investors who were making moves into brandable names, I wanted to know more.

I decided that the best person to speak to about brandable domains is someone that is completely immersed in the brandable niche, thanks to his role with BrandBucket. Michael Krell is the managing director of BrandBucket, a domain name marketplace with handpicked brandable domains for entrepreneurs, startups and small businesses.

Before taking up his role with BrandBucket, Michael created a $100,000 revenue stream out of brandable domains, from a $1,000 investment, as documented at DomainSherpa.

As a brandable newbie I personally had a few basic questions that Michael was gracious enough to answer. If you, like me, are looking to learn a little more about brandable names, I hope this interview from Michael is food for thought.


NP: What is considered a brandable domain?

Michael: Generally speaking, a brandable domain is anything a business would call itself. Sometimes it is easier to say what a brandable isn’t. In my opinion, a brandable domain is not:
  1. A geo domain. Think Enterprise.com instead of NewYorkRentalCars.com
  2. A descriptive keyword name. Think DeWalt instead of ElectricPowerTools.com
  3. A long-tailed keyword name. Think IKEA instead of DiscountedModernEuropeanFurniture.com
A rule-of-thumb is that if the domain matches the real name of the business, it is a brandable.


NP: Are brandables generally one-word, two-word or longer?

Michael: It might be easier to break brandables down into two categories which are invented and keyword.

An invented name is a non-dictionary word that is made-up and doesn’t contain any dictionary root words. Some examples of invented brandable names include Xerox, Roku, and Hulu. The adage of the shorter the better is definitely true for invented names because they aren’t real words. So the more consonants and letters, the less likely someone is to remember it because they don’t have any reference points like if it were made up of real words.

Keyword names can be a couple of things. They can be made up of 1 or more real words. Some examples include Slack, Windows, Apple, and DraftKings. The other form of keyword brandables contain a real dictionary words at its base with an ending attached. Examples include, Spotify, Feedly, and Bitly.

Then you have a hybrid of the both that include deliberate misspellings of words or is a name that is phonetically similar to a real word. Think Zomato (this was purchased on BrandBucket), FlipKart, Lyft, Quickr, and Automaatic


NP: How do you acquire brandable domains?

Michael: I acquire nearly all my names through the drops and GoDaddy Auctions. I hand reg a very small percentage. Maybe 1%-2%.


NP: Is it better to buy expired domains vs registering new names?

Michael: I’ve always been one to buy names on the drops or auctions, but that doesn’t mean that you have to spend a bundle to acquire really nice names. I am very active and I might only buy 1-2 names a week over $100. You can get a lot of quality names $20 or less that you can retail for 100x or 200x your acquisition price.

Having said that, BrandBucket does have successful sellers that only sell hand registered names. No matter what your acquisition strategy you choose, you don’t want to spend a whole lot of money until you understand what exactly you are buying and if there are endusers out there who want to buy your names.


NP: How long, on average, would it take to sell a brandable name?

Michael: I can say that the average age of a sold name on BrandBucket is a little over 6 months, but with any domain, it is difficult to say when any name will sell. To give your name the best chance of selling, you want it to appeal to as wide of audience as possible and be priced competitively


NP: What is the average sales price of a brandable name at BrandBucket?

Michael: The average sales price for 2015 is just under $3000.


NP: Who uses brandable names?

Michael: Well just about every business in the world has a brand and so they all can use a brandable domain. Most of our sales at BrandBucket are to startups, Venture Capital firms, incubators and serial entrepreneurs starting a new business. We also sell to companies who are looking to rebrand such as UrbanSpoon, which rebranded to Zomato.


NP: Why is is best to use a marketplace such as BrandBucket in order to sell brandable names?

Michael: We provide a marketplace that targets those startups and entrepreneurs with the capital to purchase a quality name. Brandables for the most part are passive sales and often don’t receive a whole lot of type-in traffic, so the potential customers wants to see a variety of options that match their search criteria.

While individual sales are often passive, we are not passive in are marketing efforts. We spend considerable resources on promoting BrandBucket to these businesses and entrepreneurs.

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Thanks to Michael for taking the time to talk about brandable domains. As someone who openly knew very little about this market, I know that the information within this interview will help me make more informed decisions about buying and selling brandable names.
 
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@DomainVP - this isn't an advertising piece for BrandBucket. I initiated contact with Michael a few weeks ago because I wanted to learn about brandable names, and because of the past success of BrandBucket, I think he's in the best position to give advice to a newbie like me.

These were questions I had about brandable names, and Michael's answers were so good & thorough that we turned it into a published interview.
James-you do great work and your articles are wonderful but @DomianVP is correct-this is nothing but an ad for BrandBucket from Krell-you were taken for a ride-you just don't know it. He's full of crap.
 
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James you do great work and write wonderful articles but you were taken for a ride by Krell on this one. This is nothing more than an ad for BrandBucket and exceptionally self serving by Krell. I challenge him to post on here how many names sold are by insiders vs retail domainers.
 
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James you do great work and write wonderful articles but you were taken for a ride by Krell on this one. This is nothing more than an ad for BrandBucket and exceptionally self serving by Krell. I challenge him to post on here how many names sold are by insiders vs retail domainers.
Sorry that was supposed to be all one post-ran together somehow - lol. ( the point is James-your work is great and this guy Krell is a total waste of time for anyone to listen to other than Krell)
 
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I also believe Michael has his own perception of what is a brandable that he is trying to use to shape the market and turn his perception into reality.

What is true is that many companies will name themselves successfully with brands that Michael would have rejected. Many do name themselves with City+Business and there is nothing wrong with that, not all businesses have an ambition to go nationwide or global. Now, I understand that those might not be suitable for Brand marketplace, as it would get flooded with those names (1000 biggest cities + 500 popular business words, you already get supply of half a million).

Many don't care about radio test, as they know their clients or their advertising media is different. Many will look for meanings in other languages. Many like plurals, while MK seem to reject most of them outright.

BR, in comparison, is much more open minded about brands.
 
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I also believe Michael has his own perception of what is a brandable that he is trying to use to shape the market and turn his perception into reality.

What is true is that many companies will name themselves successfully with brands that Michael would have rejected. Many do name themselves with City+Business and there is nothing wrong with that, not all businesses have an ambition to go nationwide or global. Now, I understand that those might not be suitable for Brand marketplace, as it would get flooded with those names (1000 biggest cities + 500 popular business words, you already get supply of half a million).

Many don't care about radio test, as they know their clients or their advertising media is different. Many will look for meanings in other languages. Many like plurals, while MK seem to reject most of them outright.

BR, in comparison, is much more open minded about brands.
Of course he'll reject them-when you submit a name to BrandBucket you're asking a competitor to approve your names-and what happens if the buyer wants to look at other names besides yours-where do you think he/she is pointed?
 
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BB is making money from your good names too. I don't believe it is conspiracy, it is more like "in the eyes of beholder", but unfortunately with very narrow tunnel vision.

One example, I'd share, MK/BB rejected M/y/r/t/l/e/s

Name that means a popular flowering tree, name that is part of top 10 touristic destination in the US (Myrtle Beach) and can be fantastic for any business there or just for wide range of businesses anywere from gardening to design. I get regular $xxxx offers for this name in my mailbox from people willing to get it, while Michael will tell you it is not a "brandable". I got it at GD expiring and there were many people bidding for it and I probably could have gotten 15-20 BB grade brandables for what it costed me.
 
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BB is making money from your good names too. I don't believe it is conspiracy, it is more like "in the eyes of beholder", but unfortunately with very narrow tunnel vision.

One example, I'd share, MK/BB rejected M/y/r/t/l/e/s

Name that means a popular flowering tree, name that is part of top 10 touristic destination in the US (Myrtle Beach) and can be fantastic for any business there or just for wide range of businesses anywere from gardening to design. I get regular $xxxx offers for this name in my mailbox from people willing to get it, while Michael will tell you it is not a "brandable". I got it at GD expiring and there were many people bidding for it and I probably could have gotten 15-20 BB grade brandables for what it costed me.

"mytrles" is generic not brandable.
 
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"mytrles" is generic not brandable.

Right. Hotels.com is generic, not brandable. Reg fee, right?

And how come then Gaps.com is listed at BB? Isn't that generic? Oh, and the GAP company must be really stupid, as they chose generic, not brandable gapzy or gaply or something.

Are weareopen.com, lengthy.com, characterize.com, annually.com, appeared.com, hyped.com, jpeg.com, commanding.com, announce.com, finally.com, payables.com and many others listed at BB also generic or brandable?
 
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Thanks for the opportunity to answer your questions, @James Iles. If anyone else has any other questions, feel free to PM or email me.

Brandables cover a huge spectrum, and if we don't accept it, we aren't saying it is a bad names by any means, it just doesn't fit in our marketplace; no shame in that. While Margot and myself obviously shape what is and is not accepted, we aren't the only ones who are looking at each name. 5-6 people in total look at every name that is submitted to get as many eyes on each name as possible. If we miss something, let us know, and we would be happy to take another look.

To those questioning my integrity and the integrity of BrandBucket, I will repeat that no names associated with myself, Margot or any Brand Ambassadors receive any special treatment in any search results or category listings.These names are also not disproportionately suggested to potential buyers if they contact us directly about helping them choose a name. All these names are treated exactly the same as every other name on the marketplace. Neither Margot or myself handle sales inquiries and when our sales staff is asked by the buyer for suggestions, they do not see who owns the domains when searching through the inventory.
 
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I have submitted a few to his site, but they are just sitting there, pending for like a week.

We should be getting to them shortly. It usually takes between 5-7 business days for names to reviewed.
 
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Thanks James and Michael for this interview. I'm getting right into the brandable market these days. Always nice to get those "accepted" emails :)
 
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Thanks for the opportunity to answer your questions, @James Iles. If anyone else has any other questions, feel free to PM or email me.

Brandables cover a huge spectrum, and if we don't accept it, we aren't saying it is a bad names by any means, it just doesn't fit in our marketplace; no shame in that. While Margot and myself obviously shape what is and is not accepted, we aren't the only ones who are looking at each name. 5-6 people in total look at every name that is submitted to get as many eyes on each name as possible. If we miss something, let us know, and we would be happy to take another look.

To those questioning my integrity and the integrity of BrandBucket, I will repeat that no names associated with myself, Margot or any Brand Ambassadors receive any special treatment in any search results or category listings.These names are also not disproportionately suggested to potential buyers if they contact us directly about helping them choose a name. All these names are treated exactly the same as every other name on the marketplace. Neither Margot or myself handle sales inquiries and when our sales staff is asked by the buyer for suggestions, they do not see who owns the domains when searching through the inventory.
Mr Krell-James has great interviews but in this case there are other questions to be answered publicly not in a PM. BrandBucket reported ( correct me if im wrong) $2.5million in sales last year-you ( BB) now have over 27,000 names on the site and you're telling us that a name averages a sale in 6 months? So with that in mind BB sold under 4% approx. of all names listed at an avg of $3000 as you stated above. And you still -although asked MANY times here on NP what the ratio of inside sales to "insider" sales is. I'm sure you're a very honest guy so no one is questioning your integrity but your numbers don't add up-if they do please simply state how many of the new names sold within a 6 month period with what is now over 27,000 names on your site and again the ratio of "insider" names sold to those of retail domainer names sold. Thank you.
 
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@ michaeljkrell.. Thanks for your inputs..

Just wondering? Is it not Better/Fair If BB implemented a referral commission program.. where If a buyer landed to your site through a listed domain and bought a different domain.. The Lead generator will get a commission? Thanks
 
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@ michaeljkrell.. Thanks for your inputs..

Just wondering? Is it not Better/Fair If BB implemented a referral commission program.. where If a buyer landed to your site through a listed domain and bought a different domain.. The Lead generator will get a commission? Thanks
Let me see if I can guess the answer "great idea we'll be considering this" lol
 
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Let me see if I can guess the answer "great idea we'll be considering this" lol
p.s. it actually is a great idea and BB really should consider this. it would allow many more people to list with them with the confidence that they can get paid even if their own name doesn't sell. Obviously BB is company that knows what they're doing but if they don't do something like this Brandroot or Namerific probably will eventually. Great idea re: ref. commission fees - even if it was just 10% and came off the top of the sale.
 
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p.s. it actually is a great idea and BB really should consider this. it would allow many more people to list with them with the confidence that they can get paid even if their own name doesn't sell. Obviously BB is company that knows what they're doing but if they don't do something like this Brandroot or Namerific probably will eventually. Great idea re: ref. commission fees - even if it was just 10% and came off the top of the sale.

Very True.. I think they should seriously consider this option. if they want to retain the trust/continued support of the Brandable Domainers..
 
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p.s. it actually is a great idea and BB really should consider this. it would allow many more people to list with them with the confidence that they can get paid even if their own name doesn't sell. Obviously BB is company that knows what they're doing but if they don't do something like this Brandroot or Namerific probably will eventually. Great idea re: ref. commission fees - even if it was just 10% and came off the top of the sale.
You know very well they have an affiliate program. I remember you went mental because an affiliate had one of your names listed on their site! https://www.namepros.com/threads/brandbucket-experience.793278/page-90

https://www.brandbucket.com/affiliates-details/ <-- though I think they are no longer with commission junction. They best thing to do would be to email Michael if you want to be an affiliate.
 
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Mr Krell-James has great interviews but in this case there are other questions to be answered publicly not in a PM. BrandBucket reported ( correct me if im wrong) $2.5million in sales last year-you ( BB) now have over 27,000 names on the site and you're telling us that a name averages a sale in 6 months? So with that in mind BB sold under 4% approx. of all names listed at an avg of $3000 as you stated above. And you still -although asked MANY times here on NP what the ratio of inside sales to "insider" sales is. I'm sure you're a very honest guy so no one is questioning your integrity but your numbers don't add up-if they do please simply state how many of the new names sold within a 6 month period with what is now over 27,000 names on your site and again the ratio of "insider" names sold to those of retail domainer names sold. Thank you.

In the interview Michael said [bold added]: "I can say that the average age of a sold name on BrandBucket is a little over 6 months." He did not say all domains on the site sell after 6 months. So there is no dishonesty, just a misreading of the interview I think.
 
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You know very well they have an affiliate program. I remember you went mental because an affiliate had one of your names listed on their site! https://www.namepros.com/threads/brandbucket-experience.793278/page-90

https://www.brandbucket.com/affiliates-details/ <-- though I think they are no longer with commission junction. They best thing to do would be to email Michael if you want to be an affiliate.
Actually they don't have a program to the best of my knowledge as mentioned above-it has nothing to do with any affiliate program. What seems to be your problem?
 
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In the interview Michael said [bold added]: "I can say that the average age of a sold name on BrandBucket is a little over 6 months." He did not say all domains on the site sell after 6 months. So there is no dishonesty, just a misreading of the interview I think.
Thanks Keith-ill go back and reread the interview.
 
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You know very well they have an affiliate program. I remember you went mental because an affiliate had one of your names listed on their site! https://www.namepros.com/threads/brandbucket-experience.793278/page-90

https://www.brandbucket.com/affiliates-details/ <-- though I think they are no longer with commission junction. They best thing to do would be to email Michael if you want to be an affiliate.

I don't think @London555 and @kandyan are talking about an affiliate program.

I think they're saying that if a buyer visits BB through one of my listed names but ends up buying one of the suggested names instead, I should be credited and rewarded as an active part of the sale.

And I think it would be totally fair and makes complete sense.

That has nothing to do with the affiliate program.
 
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More positioned advertising for Brand Bucket to try and scrub away recent negative sentiment.

Agreed. They can't dodge the negative sentiment forever. The industry is slowly changing for the better.

@DomainVP - this isn't an advertising piece for BrandBucket. I initiated contact with Michael a few weeks ago because I wanted to learn about brandable names, and because of the past success of BrandBucket, I think he's in the best position to give advice to a newbie like me.

Thank you James for taking the time to write this. I appreciate your time.

The article is good for newcomers to the brand game, brandables are great, but having Krell educate the masses on brandables is like having Dicker talking about how to build niche websites.

I don't know much about Adam Dicker or the quality of his work, so I can't compare him to Michael Krell. However, I will say that the current system is rigged, and more people are starting to open their eyes to this. I will continue breaking this industry down until the monopoly is broken up and we can all once again domain in harmony.

Thanks for the opportunity to answer your questions, @James Iles. If anyone else has any other questions, feel free to PM or email me.

Michael, I know you must be tired of seeing my comments. I will continue to troll every PR article that's done to combat the recent negative sentiment surrounding the future of BrandBucket until BrandBucket starts playing fair or you clear the air once and for all.

This does not mean you have to stop listing your domains with BB or resign as managing director. I believe the two can coexist, but BrandBucket will have to start playing fair. Let's stop this game of insiders vs outsiders before this gets any more out of hand.

I have many other questions for you. I would love the opportunity to interview you. Would you sitting down with me for a live podcast? We can agree to discuss to written questions so you will have ample time to prepare your answers.
 
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I would like to know if any BB member currently receives free listings?
 
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I would like to know if any BB member currently receives free listings?

To elaborate on your question, I would like to know:

How many of the 29,353 domains were from free listing fee's? This includes:
  • The thousands published when BrandBucket was accepting bulk portfolios of questionable quality.
  • Michael Krells rapid growing 4,940 domains
  • Margots 2,406 domains, I see she is now adding new domains again.
  • BrandBucket ambassadors / affiliates (if not free, then discounted?)
  • The voting system (including members who still have them saved up)
  • Credits given to those who help BrandBucket
  • Premium domains that sell themselves, and you spam to solicit their listing without listing fee.
Thank you.
 
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While Margot and myself obviously shape what is and is not accepted, we aren't the only ones who are looking at each name. 5-6 people in total look at every name that is submitted to get as many eyes on each name as possible.

How many of your domains have been rejected by these 5-6 people? In the TLDInvestors, all things BrandBucket interview, you stated when you weren't BrandBucket managing director, you submitted 50 domains and only 10 were accepted.

At a 20% acceptance rate, your 4,940 domains equate to 24,700 total domains submitted. I ASSUME all of your domains are submitted.

On top of it all, you set the pricing. Of nearly 2,000 submitted domains, I have never had a domain approved at $4,000. Your last domain published, Up/The/Gut, published at $4,495 Great Logo BTW!

@michaeljkrell Do you REALLY not see how some can find this system rigged? We want to work with you not against you.
 
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