Bodis parking is the past?

[qmintek]

Hi everyone,

I create this thread with the big sadness about bodis parking service: it came to badly from Dec-15. Many things changed, the revenue was fell up to 90%. I cannot believe in it. I must move thounsands of domains to another parking site. Hardly I try and made me alot of time to do that. I don't understand about the missing revenue, was Google pay less or Bodis must keep more for maintaining system? I contacted with someone, who parked with bodis in the past, and saddly they were gone from bodis. Why bodis don't listern us, who bring a part of revenue to bodis? Please restore the old state like before Dec-15.

Pray for bodis in peace. Hope they do that.

 

[Hypersot]

Your six cents will almost certainly be next to nothing (or an actual zero) somewhere else too. Its better to keep a long term relationship with a parking company than switching it around chasing literally a nickel.

Generally this is true but not always.
You see, s(he) already said that there is traffic but no clicks. The way I see it there is potential income to be gained by:
a. playing a bit with relative keywords to the domain name and use a 2-lander on a platform that supports that.
b. try to find the best zero-click platform to maximize income by views only

I have some domains that have earned *zero* on some platforms and $xx (monthly) on others.

also,
keeping a long term relationship with a platform that offers you zero income makes no sense to me

imo as always

 

[Name Trader]

I know..And from the start I should have tried them out on different platforms, bit didn't. Have just been way too busy for 1 person..But I will when I get some time.

You should sign up with Above.com and whatever 2 other parking companies they support besides Bodis. I'd suggest Voodoo.com and ParkingCrew.net. Above.com will then handle the switching to the best paying platform, automatically. It isn't rocket science to do this, so I think you will probably be able to figure it out. You need to give it time to settle down. Maybe 2 months before optimization would be complete.

 

[smurge]

Im going to chime in;

Before you shoot yourself in the foot and pull your domains out of any place you need to go through a process of determining if its the parking company or traffic source.

Just some news for you all. Google has made changes on the way it pays "MOBILE TRAFFIC". They made the switch about 2 months ago when "EVERYONE'S" revenues, including mine , started to dwindle.

So you need to ask yourself a variety of questions like:

1. Source of traffic. Where "GEO LOCATION" does it come from?

2. Is it mobile or desktop traffic
- If it's mobile what type of mobile? Is it android, IOS, Windows, or some off brand?

those are just a few important questions to ask.

Now, the other questions are:

1. Did you contact bodis and discuss it with them? If so, what was their response?

2. As you can see others are having issues at other companies besides bodis so ask yourself "WHY IS THAT".


I often see people make massive mistakes like moving whole portfolios because they have a few bad days or a bad month. Guess what...this is the parking industry and it's 100% expected to have ups and downs. Now if you have 3 months worth of bad losses then I might say it's time to re-evaluate your options but it sounds to me that you are making a decision based on one month of lower revenues.

This business is about longevity. Don't get caught up in the day to day, or week to week. Look at month to month and use 3 months minimum to make your decision.

Best of luck

 

[NameOmnia]

I don't have any experience with Bodis do I can't make any judgement about it but what has always bothered me is the discrepancy of traffic and generated revenue from company to company.
That I have never understood. If the domain is the same how is it possible to have such differences? I could understand if it were about revenues and clicks ( which I imagine being keyword related ) but how can you explain the, sometimes significant, traffic difference?

 

[smurge]

I don't have any experience with Bodis do I can't make any judgement about it but what has always bothered me is the discrepancy of traffic and generated revenue from company to company.
That I have never understood. If the domain is the same how is it possible to have such differences? I could understand if it were about revenues and clicks ( which I imagine being keyword related ) but how can you explain the, sometimes significant, traffic difference?

I can shed some light on this. The reason for this is each company has their own method of determining the quality of traffic you send them. Some companies will say they don't like the quality while another company says they do like it. If they don't like some of your stuff it

Also, the reason why might be your quality standing with the company. If your traffic isnt the best quality they might pay you a little less because there is a higher risk of chargebacks/account issues.

Understand that there are good,bad, & ugly parking companies in this industry. There is no perfect solution so you must pick the companies that do their best and pay you the best they can. Basically pick the lesser of the evils.

 

[NameOmnia]

I can shed some light on this. The reason for this is each company has their own method of determining the quality of traffic you send them. Some companies will say they don't like the quality while another company says they do like it. If they don't like some of your stuff it

Also, the reason why might be your quality standing with the company. If your traffic isnt the best quality they might pay you a little less because there is a higher risk of chargebacks/account issues.

Understand that there are good,bad, & ugly parking companies in this industry. There is no perfect solution so you must pick the companies that do their best and pay you the best they can. Basically pick the lesser of the evils.

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question but this is not the matter of it.
I am trying to explain it better.
How is it possible that the same domain name receives ( just as an example ) 10 visitor p/m with one company and 50 or 100 with another one? I am not talking about revenue I am talking about the number of visitors

 

[Hypersot]

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question but this is not the matter of it.
I am trying to explain it better.
How is it possible that the same domain name receives ( just as an example ) 10 visitor p/m with one company and 50 or 100 with another one? I am not talking about revenue I am talking about the number of visitors

What smurge said is correct. Just imagine a parking company that allows all bot traffic while another won't.

You'll see thousands of visits / month on one, while zero on the other.. especially if the domain is a spammy one.

 

[NameOmnia]

What smurge said is correct. Just imagine a parking company that allows all bot traffic while another won't.

You'll see thousands of visits / month on one, while zero on the other.. especially if the domain is a spammy one.

Oh..ok..now I get it. Thanks to the two of you.
Would you feel like sharing who you think are those " who let the bots in " and those who don't?
What do you think about DNS and Rookmedia?

 

[Hypersot]

Oh..ok..now I get it. Thanks to the two of you.
Would you feel like sharing who you think are those " who let the bots in " and those who don't?
What do you think about DNS and Rookmedia?

If we answer that I think it's going to be misinterpreted by some and after all, we can't know the real algorithms the parking services use, they might be right in allowing some suspicious traffic... or maybe not

 

[NameOmnia]

I found this interesting article...maybe it can be useful for the OP
http://domainnamewire.com/2014/10/0...ur-parked-domain-traffic-is-going/#more-31891

 

[baseballworld]

Theres nothing wrong with bodis. Mainly your traffic expected should be type in traffic anyways. Takes time to optimize a domain name when parked. I have had $12 clicks even through bodis recently and some $5 and up ones. CTR across my boards 22%. If you have thousands of domains as you stated then its gonna have the ability to fluctuate alot.

 

[forge]

Parking all around seems to be tanking. Am I wrong?

 

[Name Trader]

Parking all around seems to be tanking. Am I wrong?

That is very true for me. Income down about 50% over the last 6-8 months. Nov-Jan, typically my best months of the year. All tanked.

 

[thegeekguy]

Using Zeroclick with Bodis has been great. I really have to give Matt some credit for their great work.

@smurge still miss your screenshots!!

 

[chloe321]

I tried both Parking Crew and Bodis and I'm gonna shift all my domains over to Bodis. True, the EPCs are nothing to shout about but at least I'm getting clicks and some earnings over at Bodis. Plus their customer service is first rate, they have been very quick to answer all my queries.

 

[gatekeeper72]

Im going to chime in;

Before you shoot yourself in the foot and pull your domains out of any place you need to go through a process of determining if its the parking company or traffic source.

Just some news for you all. Google has made changes on the way it pays "MOBILE TRAFFIC". They made the switch about 2 months ago when "EVERYONE'S" revenues, including mine , started to dwindle.

So you need to ask yourself a variety of questions like:

1. Source of traffic. Where "GEO LOCATION" does it come from?

2. Is it mobile or desktop traffic
- If it's mobile what type of mobile? Is it android, IOS, Windows, or some off brand?

those are just a few important questions to ask.

Now, the other questions are:

1. Did you contact bodis and discuss it with them? If so, what was their response?

2. As you can see others are having issues at other companies besides bodis so ask yourself "WHY IS THAT".


I often see people make massive mistakes like moving whole portfolios because they have a few bad days or a bad month. Guess what...this is the parking industry and it's 100% expected to have ups and downs. Now if you have 3 months worth of bad losses then I might say it's time to re-evaluate your options but it sounds to me that you are making a decision based on one month of lower revenues.

This business is about longevity. Don't get caught up in the day to day, or week to week. Look at month to month and use 3 months minimum to make your decision.

Best of luck

No, this is not for just one month..And I really don't know where you're getting 3 months from..I never said anything about 3 months..Just so there's no more confusion, As I stated before, right off the bat, 6 Months ago, (Not 1 or even 3, but 6) I started seeing traffic coming in, but no clicks, therefore no payments...I contacted Bodis, and they told me to give it about a month to start seeing the revenue..That was 6 months ago! Up until now...6 Months later, I finally get paid a whopping 6 cents...I think I gave them plenty of time. It's time to move on from them...

Also from the person that said I shouldn't move them so I can keep reputable business with them, and shouldn't bounce around , or whatever..I don't think 6 cents in 6 months time is worthy to keep my domains parked with them..But that's just my opinion...LOL! Thanks for your input though!

My portfolio isn't huge, but I will be adding a couple more to build out my businesses (Personal use) and the others to sell, and maybe park, or build out..But I think I am definitely going to try out DNS, And check out Above.com...Thanks for those to whomever suggested it!!

Thanks for all of you all's input, It's much appreciated!

 

[gatekeeper72]

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question but this is not the matter of it.
I am trying to explain it better.
How is it possible that the same domain name receives ( just as an example ) 10 visitor p/m with one company and 50 or 100 with another one? I am not talking about revenue I am talking about the number of visitors

That is strange IMO too!.. The ONLY thing I can think of is on 1 it's getting promoted somehow by someone, or happened to be raked in the search engines, while when on the other was not being promoted, or not ranked? IDK.. That is strange though....

 

[gatekeeper72]

What smurge said is correct. Just imagine a parking company that allows all bot traffic while another won't.

You'll see thousands of visits / month on one, while zero on the other.. especially if the domain is a spammy one.

Okay, that's the first time I've ever heard the term "Spammy Domain".. What does that even mean? Can someone enlighten me on this please?

Also these parking places have bot traffic? If they're using any sort of Adsense,Google doesn't allow bot traffic. And a lot of companies actually don't allow bot traffic.
I am a bit confused why a parking company would even use bot traffic. That, IMO, Would be like throwing money out of the window, unless they're not purchasing it...

 

[Hypersot]

Okay, that's the first time I've ever heard the term "Spammy Domain".. What does that even mean? Can someone enlighten me on this please?

Also these parking places have bot traffic? If they're using any sort of Adsense,Google doesn't allow bot traffic. And a lot of companies actually don't allow bot traffic.
I am a bit confused why a parking company would even use bot traffic. That, IMO, Would be like throwing money out of the window, unless they're not purchasing it...

Now, forgive my english, I will try to explain to the best of my ability here.

Spammy might not be the best word for it, truth, but what I tried to describe is the type of domains that used to get paid traffic (just an example) and that paid traffic keeps pouring in even after the previous owner left the domain to drop.

I have encountered a few of those domains and what I've noticed is that they have 100% of traffic coming from type-ins and most of the time you get clawbacks for them. It's easy to see they are the cause since as soon as they appeared in my portfolio I get increased clawbacks.

'Show' bot traffic and 'Use' bot traffic are two different things. I'm not sure if any parking company *uses* bot traffic for revenue (maybe for zero-click revenue) but I'm pretty sure some parking companies *show* bot traffic on the 'Views' column.

Please note that I'm definitely NOT an expert in parking. I've been domaineering for about a year and everything I say is totally out of my experience. I apologise in advance if anything I say proves to be wrong in the end.

 

[Name Trader]

@gatekeeper72 - Every domain get a ton of bot traffic. Heck even Google uses a lot of bots. No parking company caches all these bots. so it's still possible that your zero clicks is due to bot traffic. Since you've not had any revenue at Bodis in six months, it's definitely time to try another provider. I'd suggest both ParkingCrew and Voodoo, and managed by Above.com.

 

[NameOmnia]

I finally get paid a whopping 6 cents

Just don't get crazy with them....DON'T SPEND THEM ALL!!!!!

 

[gatekeeper72]

Just don't get crazy with them....DON'T SPEND THEM ALL!!!!!

LOL I know..Right? Don't know what I am gonna do with all that money..HA!

 

[Name Trader]

Treat it as a learning experience. You'll feel better about it, at least So have you now accounts at Bodis, ParkingCrew, Voodoo, have all your parked domains pointing to Above.com's servers and sharing your visitors between the three companies, as Above.com optimizes your domains?

 

[gatekeeper72]

Treat it as a learning experience. You'll feel better about it, at least So have you now accounts at Bodis, ParkingCrew, Voodoo, have all your parked domains pointing to Above.com's servers and sharing your visitors between the three companies, as Above.com optimizes your domains?

Not as if yet, but I will be moving probably to DNS, and voodoo, and wait and see what happens from there, since above.com is related to Bodis...Might give that a try as a last resort..IDK..Been really busy..

 

[Name Trader]

Above.com has no relationship with Bodis apart from a purely business relationship. I don't know where you are getting your information from. DNS are not in the Above.com roster. I don't know how DNS are monetizing domains. I presume they use Google, like everyone else. If you are going to try DNS, then that should be compared with Above + ParkingCrew/Voodoo/Bodis, imho.