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No, no, no. Quality + Capital= Successful business. That's the formula.


There ia a certain sector of the population that can discriminate between .co and .com.

Rick Schwartz always quotes this Overstock 61% stuff all the time as if to say it will always stay at that number. As more people learn about .co, that number is just going to decrease. Not over night, but slowly. It wouldn't surprise me if that number went down to 30 percent in a couple years. Nothing remains static. With the thousands of new TLDs coming, people will pay more attention to the right of the dot than they ever have. Hence they will be more likely to be able to discriminate .co from .com. Just a matter of time.

I would be really interested to know the percentage of people that can distinguish between the .co and the .com... Excepted web developers and domaininers, people can only distinguish between .com and their ccTLD...
 
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Has Robert Cline become bigger than .CO itself? He seems to get more pub than any site built on a .co.
 
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I would be really interested to know the percentage of people that can distinguish between the .co and the .com... Excepted web developers and domaininers, people can only distinguish between .com and their ccTLD...
Based on the work I do with domain stats and web usage statistics, this is correct. In most countries where there is a strong ccTLD, the domain footprint for that country will be over 80% .com/.ccTLD. The legacy TLDs like .net/.org would then represent around 10 to 15% with the rest being .biz/.info/etc. For most countries (apart from Colombia), .co would represent under 1% of their domain footprint.

Now when you look at a country in terms of the web usage of its domains, things get even worse for non-core TLDs like .co ccTLD. Businesses tend to register the .ccTLD and .com of their domain and the older or larger ones will go for the brand protection package of .ccTLD/com/net/org/biz/info. But not all of these domains will lead to a working site on those TLDs. The most common is a single site in either .ccTLD or .com. The other TLD variants are either pointed to the main site with a 301 redirect or are not even set up in the DNS. So in web terms, the set of active websites for a country is less than the total number of registered domains in that country.

But the web ecology of a country is complex. It can have active websites, PPC parked websites, holding page websites, sets of duplicate content websites, compromised/hacked websites, brand protection registrations. For a search engine developer (the people and businesses that build search engines), the set of active website can be less than 30% of a country's domain footprint.

For a few months, COInternet had been publishing a rather strange web usage "survey" of how its sites were being used. In my opinion, these surveys were complete rubbish as the methodology and classification was rubbish and amateurish. But they did look good. I took a look at the usage characteristics of a set of .co domains that were being tracked here. The results were very different. The classifiers and methodology used here are those used to build country level search engines and they sometimes run on millions of domains at a time. What emerged was a picture of a TLD where PPC parking and holding pages dominated. There was some natural development but it was below that of a normal ccTLD. There was a lot of brand protection registrations from small businesses (rather than trademark owners). While it wasn't as under developed as .mobi, there were quite a few derelict websites and clone sites. This is where people get great ideas about developing a site, stick a Joomla or Wordpress install up and then promptly forget about developing the site after a week or two because it involves real work.

The key to the success of any TLD is usage. In more general terms, it is web usage. If people see there are small businesses using the TLD and developing working websites on that TLD, they begin to use that TLD more and more and it becomes part of the set of TLDs that they instinctively recognise. While URL shorteners such as no_url_shorteners or similar are great for the registry, they don't mean anything to the average user because they are just background noise. People remember Twitter but not the shorteners. It is the Mom and Pop businesses that build confidence in a TLD. Without this critical segment of the web ecology, a TLD becomes a dead zone where domainers sell to other domainers in the hope that one day they'll recover their regfee. While .co ccTLD has not reached that point yet, a few startups using .co will not change the situation much unless one or two become the equivalent of Facebook or Google. But even then, large companies protect their brands in country level markets and will rebrand for that market with the local ccTLD. The .co ccTLD's main claim to fame is that it has one less letter than .com and is, apparently, an abbreviation of 'company'. What many people don't seem to realise yet is that in most developed country level markets, the ccTLD dominates and .com is turning into a legacy or global TLD. The bulk of real commerce will take place on .ccTLD. People will only recognise .ccTLD, .com and perhaps the ccTLDs of a few adjacent countries. In the US, the de facto ccTLD is .com and .us is not as widely used. The future for non-core TLDs like .co ccTLD is going to be dim unless people start developing websites and using it rather than parking the domains on PPC or trying to sell them.

Regards...jmcc
 
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VideoGaming.CO on Sedo auction at $500 (not mine).
 
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The classifiers and methodology used here are those used to build country level search engines and they sometimes run on millions of domains at a time. What emerged was a picture of a TLD where PPC parking and holding pages dominated.
My own survey a while back indicated that 36% of all .co pointed to Godaddy name servers. While a few may be using custom DNS settings and resolving to active websites, the vast majority must be inactive.
Then you can add another 5% on PPC (known PPC nameservers).
The amount of domains parked for PPC is not shocking at first glance but as you put it, the placeholder pages dominate the landscape.

There is no doubt that the amount of parked/inactive domains is high in .com too (perhaps not as high though), but .com is not a struggling extension.

http://www.namenewsletter.com/index.php?post/2011/12/23/A-survey-of-the-.co-zone-file
 
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My own survey a while back indicated that 36% of all .co pointed to Godaddy name servers. While a few may be using custom DNS settings and resolving to active websites, the vast majority must be inactive.
Then you can add another 5% on PPC (known PPC nameservers).
The amount of domains parked for PPC is not shocking at first glance but as you put it, the placeholder pages dominate the landscape.
The 0X domains are registry holders for conficker domains from what I remember.

There is no doubt that the amount of parked/inactive domains is high in .com too (perhaps not as high though), but .com is not a struggling extension.
Yes but with .com there is a continual development process so that when you check a domain on one survey, it may have changed status from a PPC or holding page into a developed website by the next survey. There are also pseudo-sites that are actually PPC sites where the links have been obfuscated to look like genuine websites. A lot of development in .com is legacy stuff outside the US and Canada but it continues to be developed. The real sign of problems in a TLD is where there is a high level of website abandonment (where sites are left half-done and never updated). That kind of trend only becomes obvious in a multi-year timeframe. (It does result in TBs of data though.) It is slightly more difficult to identify such sites as some CMSes don't provide adequate timestamp data but from in-content cues (and other data), it is possible to build a timescape of development in a TLD.

There's a high volume/high turnover effect that is present in .com that is not present in small TLDs like .co ccTLD. This is where domains are continually being dropped and reregistered. It takes a few years for a successful TLD to develop these patterns but if the TLD develops a large cyclical Landrush anniversary echo over four or five years since launch, then it would indicate that the TLD is showing signs of being a Bubble TLD. The concentration on Godaddy's servers is to be expected as Godaddy was the flagship registrar for .co domains.

Regards...jmcc
 
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After a keyword search, came across this site that is ranking number 2 for "law directory" amidst some of the big boys like Martindale and Findlaw:

LawDirectory.co
 
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After a keyword search, came across this site that is ranking number 2 for "law directory" amidst some of the big boys like Martindale and Findlaw:

LawDirectory.co

Not bad for a search that produces 2.6 billion results.
 
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Yeah, pretty impressive considering it ranks above the likes of Lawyers.com (PR 7).

Not bad for a search that produces 2.6 billion results.
 
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Is "law directory" a well searched keyword phrase?
 
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Is "law directory" a well searched keyword phrase?

Not much. Unlike, for example, Car Games which has an exact search volume of 4,000,000 and the .co shows up on first page in a search with 1.1 billion results.

Anyway, as emjohn points out, it still ranks higher than a PR7 website like Lawyers.com, which isn't negligible, especially after the latest Penguin update.
 
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I think it gets around 400 exacts per month. But this means a lot in the legal niche. A very expensive niche. One of the most expensive.

But the bigger point here is about its ranking amongst sites that have PR 5 and above. That's pretty darn good. Shows how much the new changes demand that a page is about what it says it's about.

Is "law directory" a well searched keyword phrase?
 
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Recambios.co at Auction on Sedo (not mine).

200 Euro

"exchanges or the effect of changing" - Spanish to English
 
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Recambios.co at Auction on Sedo (not mine).

200 Euro

"exchanges or the effect of changing" - Spanish to English

Recambios means parts as in car parts, oven parts, etc.
 
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Recambios means parts as in car parts, oven parts, etc.

Right, I stand corrected. Yours is the primary meaning.

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Sales from Sedo:

Jewelry.co $24000
Mirror.co $11000
Flexible.co $2825
Popo.co $2050
 
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After a keyword search, came across this site that is ranking number 2 for "law directory" amidst some of the big boys like Martindale and Findlaw:

LawDirectory.co

"Law directory" has only 480 monthly searches on google. You could rank for that term even with blank page on .xxx extension :)

Number of search results that google produce for that term is irrelevant.

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But the bigger point here is about its ranking amongst sites that have PR 5 and above.

You took lawyers.com as example. They are not ranking for that term "law directory" at all. They even dont have word directory on their site. If they would put word directory anywhere, they would outrank lawdirectory.co in the minute.

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Unlike, for example, Car Games which has an exact search volume of 4,000,000 and the .co shows up on first page in a search with 1.1 billion results.

Yes, that is really great ranking. 1st page for 4,500,000 exact searches is impressive.
 
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Take a look at the top ten. All have PR 5 and above. LawDirectory.co ranks second.

480 uniques per month is a very good number in the legal niche. Related keywords, like mesothelioma lawyer are $200 a pop. Could you monetize that? You tell me...

And, no, you couldn't rank for that term with a blank page .xxx. That's hooey...

Sounds like you're the master of SEO. How much do you charge and can I see a sampling please?

"Law directory" has only 480 monthly searches on google. You could rank for that term even with blank page on .xxx extension :)

Number of search results that google produce for that term is irrelevant.

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You took lawyers.com as example. They are not ranking for that term "law directory" at all. They even dont have word directory on their site. If they would put word directory anywhere, they would outrank lawdirectory.co in the minute.

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Yes, that is really great ranking. 1st page for 4,500,000 exact searches is impressive.


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Type in "Lawyers.com directory" and this is the description snippet:

"Attorney, lawyer, and law firm directory to find a lawyer, attorneys, and local law firms. Lawyers.com is the #1 lawyer directory."

The word "directory" is a part of their main description for their site. Don't know where you got your information from.


"Law directory" has only 480 monthly searches on google. You could rank for that term even with blank page on .xxx extension :)

Number of search results that google produce for that term is irrelevant.

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You took lawyers.com as example. They are not ranking for that term "law directory" at all. They even dont have word directory on their site. If they would put word directory anywhere, they would outrank lawdirectory.co in the minute.

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Yes, that is really great ranking. 1st page for 4,500,000 exact searches is impressive.
 
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Sedo reports the sale of xes.co for $1,750.
 
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Guys, you always have to look at the author - By .CO Internet (Sponsored Post)

It's not like an unbiased real article by somebody, just an ad/sponsored post by .CO Internet.
 
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Guys, you always have to look at the author - By .CO Internet (Sponsored Post)

It's not like an unbiased real article by somebody, just an ad/sponsored post by .CO Internet.

Yes, I know. It's just another source, like the cointernet.co website. Nothing wrong with that.
 
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You are correct. However, it's still interesting to see what the registrar is up to, at the moment.
Guys, you always have to look at the author - By .CO Internet (Sponsored Post)

It's not like an unbiased real article by somebody, just an ad/sponsored post by .CO Internet.
 
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480 uniques per month is a very good number in the legal niche. Related keywords, like mesothelioma lawyer are $200 a pop. Could you monetize that? You tell me...

Sounds like you're the master of SEO. How much do you charge and can I see a sampling please?

The word "directory" is a part of their main description for their site. Don't know where you got your information from.

I didnt say anything about traffic type, monetization or domain quality. The fact is, 480 are low numbers (=> low competition for _exact_ term) and its easy to rank for such term with 1 page of unique content and 3 or 4 relevant backlinks (domain can be com,net,tv,co, whatever).

About description, google does not rely much on it in some cases. Google for that topic if interested, there are numerous discussion about how and if desc tag counts for google nowdays.

And I dont know why personal attack on me. I am not seo master (what a funny expression) or anything. I just have many sites online, and I make for living with them. Better they are ranked, better revenue I get, so it happens I know something about SERP.

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The word directory is present, a Google search returns 480,000 occurrences.

You are correct, thanks.
 
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