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Old 06-18-2008, 02:25 AM THREAD STARTER               #1 (permalink)
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For the first week in months there were more than a couple of .us sales to make the ccTLD list. Although the sale prices are very very low.


Cinema.us $4,000 Galcomm
Appraisal.us $3,205 TDNAM (This was definitely a steal)
Spyware.us $3,030 ( ARE YOU F***** KIDDING ME!!!!!)
Greenwich.us $1,205
Novels.us $1,004
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Nice sales,

spyware.us will sell for over $10K later in the year

I bid to $3k so it shows what a small time domainer would pay for it. And it looks like a big time domainer bought it (adam dicker)


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Originally Posted by VirusDetails.com
Nice sales,

spyware.us will sell for over $10K later in the year

I bid to $3k so it shows what a small time domainer would pay for it. And it looks like a big time domainer bought it (adam dicker)
Umm, I have a big problem with this personally. Adam Dicker is not only a Godaddy Employee, but his title is "VP of Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM)".

If he doesn't personally have access to see other people's max bids on TDNam, he damn sure has people working for him that do.

This is flat out wrong.
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Appraisal.us Nice name. Intresting to see .us names selling for more than 1K.


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Originally Posted by nightraptor22
Appraisal.us Nice name. Intresting to see .us names selling for more than 1K.
I agree that its nice to see +$1k sales, but for the quality of these names the prices are very low.
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Greenwich.us very timely indeed
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Originally Posted by Lasher
Umm, I have a big problem with this personally. Adam Dicker is not only a Godaddy Employee, but his title is "VP of Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM)".

If he doesn't personally have access to see other people's max bids on TDNam, he damn sure has people working for him that do.

This is flat out wrong.
I dont think he would use any tactics that were not available to us.

It's not the only name he bought from those auctions.


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Originally Posted by weblord
Greenwich.us very timely indeed
Yes, and Novels.us was well booked
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Originally Posted by Lasher
Umm, I have a big problem with this personally. Adam Dicker is not only a Godaddy Employee, but his title is "VP of Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM)".

If he doesn't personally have access to see other people's max bids on TDNam, he damn sure has people working for him that do.
Wow. I'd like to see a response from GoDaddy on whether their employees (and executives!!!) are allowed to bid up names on their own auction platform. I wonder if any of the domains I won on TDNam that day were improperly bid up by TDNam employees such as Dicker?

I'd also like to hear from GoDaddy (or Dicker) whether he, or any other GoDaddy employees or favored customers, receive a discount, commission, or rebate on their TDNam purchases (other than the renewal price part). It is particularly unfair if GoDaddy employees or favored customers are able to falsely inflate prices and, when they win, only pay a fraction of their winning bid prices.

I have long felt that GoDaddy cannot be trusted, and that is one of the reasons I argued against them taking over as .us registry (and I'm glad their bid failed).
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Guys, I'm contacting GoDaddy about this. If you have any additional information you think is relevant, please e-mail me or send a PM.

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Originally Posted by Lasher
Umm, I have a big problem with this personally. Adam Dicker is not only a Godaddy Employee, but his title is "VP of Domain Name Aftermarket (TDNAM)".

If he doesn't personally have access to see other people's max bids on TDNam, he damn sure has people working for him that do.

This is flat out wrong.
You betcha' it is!
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I got in touch with GoDaddy, and apparently they don't have a policy against this. Neither does NameJet. Here are the details:

http://domainnamewire.com/2008/06/20...nst-customers/
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Yes, this seems unfortunate. Well, we live and we learn. We're learning more about Godaddy. In hindsight, it's probably better that Godaddy wasn't awarded the keys to the .us registry.
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I'd love for GD to have won the contract. I'd rather have a few gem's sniped at auction as long as GD would market .us the way it needs to be marketed.

.Us would be years ahead in a short period of time if GD had beat out Nuestar
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Originally Posted by duceman
I'd love for GD to have won the contract. I'd rather have a few gem's sniped at auction as long as GD would market .us the way it needs to be marketed.

.Us would be years ahead in a short period of time if GD had beat out Nuestar

I see your point, but I don't agree. Here's why: I believe one huge reason .info is such a weak TLD is because the some of the registry's (Afilias) employees and Board members fraudulently obtained prime .info names (like maui.info) during the Sunrise Period reserved for trademark holders. Major corporations don't want to brand their trademark in an extension run by pirates. As bad as Neustar is at hyping .us, they appear not to have the same type of scoundrels running the registry. Unfortunately, now Godaddy is tarnished with this Adam Dicker thing.
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It's not that Adam has done anything improper; I don't believe he has. But for the same reason that companies and other entities don't allow their employees to participate in their drawings or contests (the LOOK of impropriety) is the same reason GoDaddy shouldn't allow their employees access to a system that MAY give them an edge over the general public.
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It's not that Adam has done anything improper; I don't believe he has. But for the same reason that companies and other entities don't allow their employees to participate in their drawings or contests (the LOOK of impropriety) is the same reason GoDaddy shouldn't allow their employees access to a system that MAY give them an edge over the general public.
Have to agree with that,

He knows someone would catch on (find out) he was the owner and he more than likely knew this would happen.

I highly doubt he would use his power to gain over the rest of us.

It's not as if he's a secret domainer, every one knows who he is.


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It's not that Adam has done anything improper;
We will never know for sure, and that's the problem. I don't think Bob Parsons cares too much about it. He's too consumed with busty brunettes to care about shenanigans within his organization.
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The DomainNameWire article about auction service employees bidding up the prices of their own auctions notes that NameJet may allow the practice juts as GoDaddy (TDNam) does. However, the phone rep Andrew spoke to may have been wrong. According to a DomainNameNews entry, Enom Sr. VP Taryn Naidu says:

"I have no idea how anyone got the ‘information’ that Namejet allows employees to bid but I can tell you that it not the case. We definitely do NOT let employees compete in auctions. Even if controlled, that practice has bad news written all over it."

So apparently SnapNames, Moniker, and NameJet ban executives from logging on and inflating bid prices. GoDaddy (TDNam) allows the practice. I'm interested in hearing the policies at Sedo and Pool.

I wish GoDaddy would add more transparency to their auctions by at least showing which users I'm bidding against, as Pool, SnapNames, and NameJet all do. Now that I know GD employees are bidding against me, I'm wary of trusting them with private bid information such as proxy bids and adding names to my watch list.

I respect Adam Dicker and don't think he would abuse the insider information he has access to. But I still think he should choose between running TDNam, and participating as a bidder there. He can still bid on SnapNames, NameJet, Pool, and all the others.
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I don’t like to see insider bidding going on anywhere, but when I heard that the VP of the TDNam has purchased some quality .US domains that actually made me feel good, because for several years now a lot of the old school domainers have been putting .US down and saying that it wasn’t going to go anywhere, so to see someone who has first hand knowledge of the domain market putting his money on .US is a big blow to all those naysayers and should be a cause for celebration for all the .US fans. Of course I still think that it is unfair for an average domainer to be bidding against someone who has insider info, so that part of it needs to be fixed somehow. IMO
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Originally Posted by Cronus
The DomainNameWire article about auction service employees bidding up the prices of their own auctions notes that NameJet may allow the practice juts as GoDaddy (TDNam) does. However, the phone rep Andrew spoke to may have been wrong. According to a DomainNameNews entry, Enom Sr. VP Taryn Naidu says:

"I have no idea how anyone got the ‘information’ that Namejet allows employees to bid but I can tell you that it not the case. We definitely do NOT let employees compete in auctions. Even if controlled, that practice has bad news written all over it."
I'd be surprised if the phone rep were actually wrong. They confidently answered the question for me after I identified myself and what I was writing about. They even said, without my prompting, "but they have to pay for the domain just like everyone else".

I realize NameJet is a deal with NetSol and eNom, but I'm surprised to see different information from both entities. And eNom hasn't personally contacted me about it. So we'll see.
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Originally Posted by Lasher
If he doesn't personally have access to see other people's max bids on TDNam, he damn sure has people working for him that do.

This is flat out wrong.
You sound SO sure about it.
I am sure you have PROOF.
So, let's see it.
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What can't be proven one way or another is if an employee does or doesn't get a privilege that outsiders don't get because they are working for the auction company. The smart thing to do would be to avoid this line of questioning and just not have your employees bidding.

The other question that comes up is : how do you stop employees from bidding on names ? They can all have spouses, friends or other 'proxy agents' bidding on their behalf. . . Really there's no way to stop it .

Think about this as well : if I'm in charge of the aftermarket or an employee (likely rewarded on performance of the area I manage) and sales are a little down I would sure know of an easy way to boost my sales numbers. I'll just bid. Why wouldn't I . . . I meet my quotas, I keep my job and I get some good domains.
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