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information Expert Exchange: If You Began with $1,000 to Spend on Domains, What Would You Buy? What If $25,000?

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Welcome to a brand new Q&A series on the NamePros Blog. Each article in this series will ask numerous domain name industry experts a single question. The questions and answer will hopefully give you an insight into how these successful industry leaders operate, while also giving valuable advice to help you in your own domain investment activities.

If you were starting in the domain industry today with $1,000 to spend, what would you buy?
What if you had $25,000 to invest?

We sent this question out to industry experts, and here’s what they had to say.


Nat Cohen (@telepathy), Owner of Telepathy.com
With $1,000, I'd be going after product or keyword domains that dropped that I could quickly resell to companies in [their] industry, and try to build up funds that I could then use to go after higher value domains.

With $25,000, I'd use a similar strategy, but there would be many more domains that I could go after. Also, if I had a good sense of "investor" valuations, I would try to find premium domains in private hands that I could acquire for less than investor pricing and then flip to other domain investors. For a long-term strategy, I'd look for decent 'brandable' domains from drop auctions or other auctions that could be acquired for $500 or less and try to build up a portfolio for eventual end-user sales. This strategy would not bring in any steady income, so I wouldn't pursue this approach if I needed immediate income.


Andrew Rosener (@SeafoodMan), CEO of Media Options Domain Brokerage
I would probably buy underpriced 4 letter .COM domains. I think as far as liquid domains go, they have the highest upside relative to investment cost.


Shane Cultra (@Domain Shane), Domain Investor & Publisher of DSAD.com
With $1,000 I would buy two or three LLLL .COM domains with good letters and vowels. With $25,000 I would buy a few good one-word .COM’s or special two-word .COM’s.


Frank Schilling (@Frank.Schilling), CEO of Uniregistry
I'd look at what generic names are selling (sold) and try to buy registration-priced new gTLDs in select extensions (that make sense) and try to offer those for sale to other owners of other extensions. Here I would avoid trademark intent names and focus on developed generics.

I'd also start calling the owners of expiring names (before they expire) making cash offers of $500-2,000 for great .COM names that will likely sell for much more on NameJet post-expiry.


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Giuseppe Graziano (@Giuseppe Graziano), CEO of GGRG Domain Brokerage
When I first started out in the industry, I received great advice from Thierry François, a domain veteran, which I will pass along to you. If you only have $1,000 to invest, as the first step, you should decide a niche to focus on (e.g. one word .COM, four letters .COM, etc.). I would study the niche as much as possible and learn exactly how much these type of domains are trading for, who is buying and selling them, and where they are traded.

Once you are comfortable with the trading ranges, I would buy 1-3 domains that I know are priced below market value. As a next step, depending on the type of domain and on the time frame of my investment, I would hold on to it (especially if the domain is a one or two word .COM, or you have a long-term horizon and domaining is not your full time job) and hope for an end user to come along and sell it for a 100%+ net margin. Alternatively, if the domain I bought is liquid, I would try to flip it for a 20%+ net margin and proceed to repeat the process.

Here is instead what I would not do: spend $1,000 in new registrations hoping that someone will buy the domains. This is how I and many other investors lost money when we first started. If a domain has not been registered yet, there is a 99% chance that nobody wants it. Unless you know exactly what you are doing, you are basically playing the lottery hoping to get lucky.

If I had $25,000, then I would do the same process as above, but this time I would go for a 3-letter .COM, a good one-word .COM, or spread the risk with a portfolio of 4-letter .COM with vowels.


Mike Mann (@Mike Mann), Owner of DomainMarket.com
With $1,000? A vacation. With $25k, I’d look at auctions on NameJet for super premium .COM domain names.


Joe Styler (@Joe Styler), Domain Investor & Aftermarket Product Manager at GoDaddy
With $1,000, I would buy a bunch of expired domains that were old (10+ years old) and that I thought had a good resale potential.

With $25,000, I would buy a few short .COM names. I would be patient and check the blogs and forums as well as some of the auctions to pick up 2-3 good category killer names. You can usually get a decent deal if you are patient. If the right domain name presented itself, then I would pay the whole $25,000 for the one really good name.


Tessa Holcomb, Co-Founder and CEO of Igloo Domain Brokerage
With a budget of only $1,000, I might roll the dice and consider acquiring a few of my favorite gTLDs. With a higher budget, I would focus on .COM’s that have consistently proven to be a sound investment yielding great returns.


Morgan Linton (@domainflipper), Publisher of MorganLinton.com & Co-founder of Fashion Metric
If I had $1,000 to spend, I'd likely buy four domain names for $250 each. This would give me the opportunity to go beyond a hand-registered domain but still spread the risk to a handful of domain names. While you're probably not going to sell any of these for many thousands of dollars, selling for $2,500 might be within reason. You'd just have to know that in the early days you might end up buying names you just can't sell, but you'll learn in the process.

If I had $25,000 to invest, then I would buy twenty-five $1,000 domain names. Like I said above, you're going to make some mistakes in the beginning – okay, you'll probably keep making mistakes for years to come – and that's just how it goes. With 25 domains, you can still make plenty of mistakes and end up with a few good domains that could sell for many thousands of dollars.


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Thank you all for sharing your thoughts!

I started buying and fliping ccc .com then got a bunch of 4L .com ($100 or less) then got a 3L .com. Now I have sold my 3L .com (Made about 3x profit) and reinvest the money in brandable names (and paying some debts!)
 
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Ok, I'm a a little off topic, but I must share this just picked up a Geo 1 Word cctld .at. OCEANIA.at Sorry guys I just feel so good about this one
 
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Someone said they would buy 2-3 LLLL.com names for $1,000?

1 LLLL.com will cost you just over $1,000
 
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I think I would go with Mike Mann idea.vacation of $1,000 and a 1 word .com if $25,000. I would also consider a 1 letter cctld or gtld.
 
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i vote for Frank

Frank Schilling (@Frank.Schilling), CEO of Uniregistry
I'd look at what generic names are selling (sold) and try to buy registration-priced new gTLDs in select extensions (that make sense) and try to offer those for sale to other owners of other extensions. Here I would avoid trademark intent names and focus on developed generics.

I'd also start calling the owners of expiring names (before they expire) making cash offers of $500-2,000 for great .COM names that will likely sell for much more on NameJet post-expiry.

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new gTLDs
that make sense...
 
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All fine and dandy replies, but no beginner will heed this advice.

They're going to buy 1000-100,000 .xyz domains with that $1000 and pray to the domain gods that they're gonna be the next Rick Schwartz instead.
 
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1000 Bucks...

1 check the registrars what price they offer ( on new and classic extension )
2 check and create a keyword list ( future tech by watching new inventions videos and reading the news )
3 check availablity on whatever extension ( compare compatiblity to companies )
4 register as much as i can get ( on different kind to get a spectrum )
5 park them @ Uni market ( and make a nice landing / salespage )
6 go out and email ( calling and meeting )
7 build a network on social media make nice posts and share...
 
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Someone said they would buy 2-3 LLLL.com names for $1,000?

1 LLLL.com will cost you just over $1,000

You are kidding right. This are sales from just today. EPND

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alzj.com auction
$759 12/7/2016 Namejet
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aydc.com auction
$659 12/7/2016 Namejet
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epnd.com auction
$325 12/7/2016 Namejet
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eqxb.com auction
$242 12/7/2016 Namejet
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utnt.com auction
$359 12/7/2016 Namejet

pevz.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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xepg.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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xnal.com auction
$260 12/7/2016 Namejet
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pvfh.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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baah.com auction
$1,913 12/7/2016 Godaddy
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wzof.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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ixdi.com auction
$249 12/7/2016 Namejet
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snfe.com auction
$333 12/7/2016 Namejet
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znud.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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qixk.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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rtuj.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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epvg.com auction
$232 12/7/2016 Namejet
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hcge.com auction
$310 12/7/2016 Namejet
 
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All fine and dandy replies, but no beginner will heed this advice.

They're going to buy 1000-100,000 .xyz domains with that $1000 and pray to the domain gods that they're gonna be the next Rick Schwartz instead.


I believe those days are gone.
 
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I believe those days are gone.
The penny days are gone, but will most likely be seen again after huge drops (maybe 5 cents, 25 cents, 40 cents, etc.).

An xyz costs 99 cents on Uniregistry and GoDaddy at the time of this post. That means, with ICANN fees included, a beginner may be more tempted to ignore this advice and register 854 domains for $1000 – because more is better, right?
 
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The penny days are gone, but will most likely be seen again after huge drops (maybe 5 cents, 25 cents, 40 cents, etc.).

An xyz costs 99 cents on Uniregistry and GoDaddy at the time of this post. That means, with ICANN fees included, a beginner may be more tempted to ignore this advice and register 854 domains for $1000 – because more is better, right?

I meant becoming the next Rick Schwartz or Schilling.
 
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"With $1,000? A vacation"

This was very helpful, Thanks
 
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Best advice imo came from @telepathy.

With $1,000, I'd be going after product or keyword domains that dropped that I could quickly resell to companies in [their] industry, and try to build up funds that I could then use to go after higher value domains.

The most speculative advice came from Shane Cultra.

Nobody knows how speculative a random 'bottom barrel' $250 USD 4L.com is until you try to sell a few to 'make a profit'. If you had $1k to invest you don't want to tie it up in long term holds.


If I were investing $1k starting out my advice would be the same at Nat's; Go after 3-4 undervalued product or keyword domains that I could flip for $x,xxx. With this strategy you should take a few months to really focus on sales strategy and namebio data.

Like @Shane Bellone says... "Never assume the sales will continue. Save half your profit."
 
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How come no one asked the domain sherpa? I actually think he may have some good advice.
 
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"With $1,000? A vacation"

This was very helpful, Thanks

What he is saying is that $1,000 may not lead you anywhere. Better fly away!
 
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Note, I started with $8 and ended with a 3L com that I sold for 3x profit. Thanks to namepros, dnjournal, thedomains and DomainSherpa!
 
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I would just hit up Namejet.

I got this for under $970 total:

icelandtourism.com
bargainlogos.com
drinktube.com
charityrankings.com
thriftshopping.com
creativetouches.com
winescanner.com

Some of the lower end purchases. Just buying domains I can picture websites on.
 
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Best advice imo came from @telepathy.



The most speculative advice came from Shane Cultra.

Nobody knows how speculative a random 'bottom barrel' $250 USD 4L.com is until you try to sell a few to 'make a profit'. If you had $1k to invest you don't want to tie it up in long term holds.


If I were investing $1k starting out my advice would be the same at Nat's; Go after 3-4 undervalued product or keyword domains that I could flip for $x,xxx. With this strategy you should take a few months to really focus on sales strategy and namebio data.

Like @Shane Bellone says... "Never assume the sales will continue. Save half your profit."

The definition of speculative (regarding an investment) involving a high risk of loss.

LLLL.coms are the LEAST risky due to the liquidity They have become so liquid that you essentially can sell them right back and only lose your commission. So to say my advice gives you least chance of making money then you may be correct. But saying they are speculative or risky is not. Not on the low end. Because there is a defined bottom.

Also two $500 LLLL.coms are not bottom of the barrel. I got started in this business learning from a website called The Four Letter Noob (eventually named LLLL.com) and Reece taught me how to flip 4Ls. That flipping eventually (I moved on to 4N.com) turned my 1000 into mid six to six figure income every year for the last 3 years. And all that with putting zero dollars back into the market. It took me 5 years of doing it every single day to get there.

So it may be bad advice but its what worked for me so I know it can be done
 
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I would just hit up Namejet.

I got this for under $970 total:

icelandtourism.com
bargainlogos.com
drinktube.com
charityrankings.com
thriftshopping.com
creativetouches.com
winescanner.com

Some of the lower end purchases. Just buying domains I can picture websites on.

I wouldn't have bought any of these.

I use to buy names like Frame$y, JobN@id BrandChimp at under $40 each
 
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With $1000 I would do what I would do with $100: register 100 two words new gtlds which make sense, at $1 promo, from the extensions which are $2.5 transfer/renewal at west.xyz (e.g. .online, tech, review, etc) and put them for sale at BIN $250 at Sedo and Afternic. If you sell 2 in a year (2%) you are in profit.
 
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