The Official LLLL.net sales report and discussion thread

skylineleong · Dec 19, 2007

--------Welcome to LLLL.net sales report thread------------

http://www.premiumdomain.com/tld/net/

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LLLL.coms sales average $xxx. LLLL.nets min $xx.

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http://3character.com/priceguide.html

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Sex.net $454,500 (Highest price LLL.nets)
2006 Parked.com, LLC

porn.net $400,000 (Highest price LLLL.nets now, any else..)
http://simplygeo.com/2008/01/23/domainfest-auction-resultsupdates-part-2-live-on-simplygeocom/

News.net - 2005 - Christopher Norris - $150,000

Math.net - 2007 - Name Administration Inc. - $35,300

Cams.net - 2006 - Domain Capital - $35,000

Rome.net - 2007 - lee, fun check stephen - $17,500

Post.net - 2007 - ......................... - $26,000

Rome.net - 2007 - lee, fun check stephen - $17,500

Stay.net - 2007 - ......................... - $13,000

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http://www.namepros.com/3206738-post3233.html
jay break the namepros record in this LLLL.net sales thread.

Highest = PORN.net $400,000
Lowest = KOYY.net $0.01

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Go to "Reece" post below:
www.4letternoob.com
http://4letternoob.wordpress.com/

LLLL.nets countdown & Avalailable LLLL.nets list
http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-discussion/403871-llll-net-countdown.html

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Vowel = a , e , i , o , u , "Y"

Is the letter Y a vowel or a consonant?
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/lettery?view=uk
&
http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/g01.html

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There are currently 206,279 LLLL.nets available (as at the 21st May 2008). Hence there's now only 45.17% of the total 456,976 LLLL.nets available.

Historical Changes Per Month

* 206,279 available - 21st May; down by ~700 since 1st May
* 207,025 available - 1st May 08; down by 3,173 in April
* 210,198 available - 1st April 08; down by 4,132 in March
* 214,330 available - 1st Mar 08

There are currently 213,894 LLLL.nets available (as at the 2nd March 2008). Hence there's now only 46.8% of the total 456,976 LLLL.nets available.www.GFNB.net

http://www.gfnb.net/Search.php

And enter the following as the search criteria:

aeiou
bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxyz
aeiou
bcdfghjklmnpqrstvwxyz
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LLLL.net Available A-Z
http://www.4-ok.net/?p=stat

29-May-2008, 15:06:25
A: 4552
B: 6794
C: 5497
D: 6222
E: 6871
F: 7739
G: 7250
H: 6439
I: 6726
J: 8722
K: 9170
L: 7614
M: 6606
N: 7228
O: 8028
P: 7949
Q: 12580
R: 8426
S: 4542
T: 6012
U: 10785
V: 11980
W: 8327
X: 10741
Y: 10272
Z: 10452
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Available : 207524

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* 214,557 available - 29th Feb 08; down by 208 since 3 days ago.
* 214,763 available - 26th Feb 08; down by 479 since 3 days ago.
* 215,239 available - 23rd Feb 08; down by 115 since 1 day ago.
* 215,354 available - 22nd Feb 08; down by 115 since 1 day ago.
* 215,701 available - 21st Feb 08; down by 817 since 2 days ago.
* 216,518 available - 19th Feb 08; down by 293 since 2 days ago.
* 216,811 available - 17th Feb 08

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http://www.domainersbox.net/tools/
SEARCH FREE LLLL.NET
VCVC.nets or CVCV.nets

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Quad Letter Domains
http://www.quadletterdomains.com/

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List of all available LLLL.NET with double letters and 3 premium letters.
http://3062838.mycyberway.com/letter/Available/All_available_LLLL.NET_with_double_letters.htm

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PATTERN-Amount-%
CCCC 160,000 35.01
VCCC 48,000 10.5
CVCC 48,000 10.5
CCVC 48,000 10.5
CCCV 48,000 10.5
CVCV 14,400 3.15
VCVC 14,400 3.15
CVVC 14,400 3.15
VCCV 14,400 3.15
VVCC 14,400 3.15
CCVV 14,400 3.15
CVVV 4,320 0.95
VCVV 4,320 0.95
VVCV 4,320 0.95

VVVC 4,320 0.95
VVVV 1,296 0.28

C: BCDFGHJKLMNPQRSTVWXZ
V: AEIOUY

QUALITY-Amount-%
PPPP 83,521 18.28
PPPB 117,912 25.8
PPPW 58,956 12.9
PPBB 62,424 13.66
PPBW 62,424 13.66
PPWW 20,808 4.55
PBBB 14,688 3.21
PBBW 22,032 4.82
PBWW 11,016 2.41
PWWW 1,836 0.40
BBBB 1,296 0.28
BBBW 2,592 0.56
BBWW 1,944 0.42
BWWW 648 0.14
WWWW 81 0.017

Premium: ABCDEFGHILMNOPRST
Bad: JKUVWY
Worst: QXZ

RANK-Amount-%
XXXX 26 0.0057
XXYY 650 0.14
XYXY 650 0.14
XYYX 650 0.14
LXXX 650 0.14
XLXX 650 0.14
XXLX 650 0.14
XXXL 650 0.14
XXLL 16,225 3.55
XLXL 16,225 3.55
XLLX 16,225 3.55
LXLX 16,225 3.55
LXXL 16,225 3.55
LLXX 16,225 3.55
LLLL 354,050 77.48

All: 456,976

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LLL - 17576
CCC - 46656
LLLL - 456976
CCCC - 1679616
LLLLL - 11881376

L-L-L-L - 456976
LL-LL - 456976
LLL-L - 456976
L-LLL - 456976
L-LL-L - 456976
LL-L-L - 456976
L-L-LL - 456976
C-C-C-C - 1679616
CC-CC - 1679616
C-CCC - 1679616
CCC-C - 1679616
C-CC-C - 1679616
CC-C-C - 1679616
C-C-CC - 1679616

NN -100
NNN - 1000
NNNN -10000
NNNNN - 100000
NNNNNN - 1000000

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Short Domain List below:

N = Number
L = Letter
C = Character (either a letter or a number)
c = Constanant Letter
V = Vowell Letter

NN.com
LL.com
CC.com
NNN.com
LLL.com
CCC.com
NNN.net
LLL.net
NNN.org
LLL.org
NNN.info
LLL.info
NNN.biz
LLL.biz
NNN.mobi
LLL.mobi
L-L.com
N-N.com
C-C.com
N-N.net
L-L.net
C-C.net
N-N.org
L-L.org
C-C.org
NNN.us
LLL.us
NNNN.com
LLLL.com
VcVc.com
cVcV.com
cVVc.com
ccVc.com
VVcV.com
cccV.com
Vccc.com
CCCC.com
NNNN.net
LLLL.net
CCCC.net
NN-N.com
N-NN.com
LL-L.com
L-LL.com
C-CC.com
CC-C.com
NNNNN.com
LLLLL.com
cVcVc.com
VcVcV.com
cVVcc.com
ccVVc.com
cVVVc.com
VcccV.com
VccVc.com
VVcVc.com
cccVc.com
VVVcV.com
CCCCC.com
N-N-N-N.com
L-L-L-L.com
NN-NN.com
LL-LL.com
NNN-N.com
LLL-L.com
N-NNN.com
L-LLL.com
N-NN-N.com
L-LL-L.com
NN-N-N.com
LL-L-L.com
N-N-NN.com
L-L-LL.com
C-C-C-C.com
CC-CC.com
C-CCC.com
CCC-C.com
C-CC-C.com
CC-C-C.com
C-C-CC.com

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Very pronounceable CVCV top the list of non-word LLLL.coms which fetch the most.

VCVC really depend on the letters, unlike AABB and Triple Letters which have a fairly large value (~$500+ for triple repeats/AABB) regardless of letter quality.

On the pronounceable front, you're looking at (in general): CVCV > VCVC > CVVC > VCCV.

With rares, you're looking at (again, on average): AABB > Triple Repeat > ABAB > VVVV > Triple Non-Repeat.

If I had to average it out across all LLLL's, I'd say it goes as follows: CVCV > AABB > Triple Repeat > ABAB > VCVC > VVVV. CVVC/VCCV depend heavily on the letters and pronounceability.

http://www.namepros.com/2816488-post2.html

1) Have a meaning - Dictionary words
2) repeated letters - Example - AAAA
3) Extremely Algorithm - Example - ABCD
4) Pronounceable - This is where CVCV or VCVC comes.

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http://www.quadletterdomains.com/lists/

Four Letter Lists:

* CVCV - All possible combinations
* CVCV - All possible combinations where ‘Y’ is considered a vowel
* VCVC - All possible combinations
* VCVC - All possible combinations where ‘Y’ is considered a vowel
* LLLL - All possible premium combinations*

* Premium Letters: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T

Five Letter Lists:

* VCVCV - All possible combinations
* VCVCV - All possible premium combinations*

* Premium Letters: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,L,M,N,O,P,R,S,T

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bobby9101 · Apr 5, 2008

http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=784276 = LOL
I ask a good bit (maybe quite overpriced) for some names, but I don't think he is going to get a single sale at those prices

Tempest111 · Apr 5, 2008

bobby9101 said:
http://forums.DigitalPoint/showthread.php?t=784276 = LOL
I ask a good bit (maybe quite overpriced) for some names, but I don't think he is going to get a single sale at those prices

agreed, aint gonna happen. I've got way better names listed in my sig for $9 that are having trouble selling.

currenz · Apr 5, 2008

buckshotdots said:
niti.net at $375.00 with 3 hours to go

what is the winning bid for this?

bobdigital · Apr 5, 2008

I forked over $60 for diir.net

dag · Apr 5, 2008

currenz said:
what is the winning bid for this?

Ended at $400! Nice sale...

My only pickup there today was for POUA.net -- just $19!

unclewalter · Apr 5, 2008

I payed $12 for DTST.net. Repeating letters and has 856k google results.

dag · Apr 5, 2008

BOCE.net was practically stolen today at NJ for $160! Wish I'd been near my computer for the end of it!

krx · Apr 6, 2008

This is not a plug (or at least not intended as such) I just really don't see why these quad prem LLLL.nets have not all been bought up. At $10 per it seems like one H3LL of a deal. I loaded up on them (hand-regs) the last day of the buyout or these would be gone now.

I guess the bulk requirement deters small buyers. But it seems like some buyers are spending more for similar and less quality names buying up 1 or 2 at a time. It's gotta mean that minimum wholesale for quad prem LLLL.nets is still below $10 (tho I do see people spending more for them elsewhere ...

)

I've been watching the thread with some disbelief, going day after day w/no (apparent) sales. I thought I might list some of mine ... but no point if these aren't moving. :td:

bobby9101 · Apr 6, 2008

krx said:
This is not a plug (or at least not intended as such) I just really don't see why these quad prem LLLL.nets have not all been bought up. At $10 per it seems like one H3LL of a deal. I loaded up on them (hand-regs) the last day of the buyout or these would be gone now.

I guess the bulk requirement deters small buyers. But it seems like some buyers are spending more for similar and less quality names buying up 1 or 2 at a time. It's gotta mean that minimum wholesale for quad prem LLLL.nets is still below $10 (tho I do see people spending more for them elsewhere ... )

I've been watching the thread with some disbelief, going day after day w/no (apparent) sales. I thought I might list some of mine ... but no point if these aren't moving. :td:

Reece has a disadvantage... with his apparent "god" status to some of the n00bs (no offense to anyone) they think "If reese is selling them, there is a reason" And they would be partially right. Reece I am sure has checked these names, they are the "lowest quality" of the premiums.

Not one has a vowel at all, good luck finding sellable acronyms for half of those

Ja$on · Apr 6, 2008

Not everyone wants to buy $100 worth. If it was me I would sell them in smaller groups but then again I am not a baller like reece.

yet.

Shenron · Apr 6, 2008

Got IGAX.NET in a Private deal at $10

As for the low quality Quads Reece is selling... I just wish I had the cash to buy them all.

krx · Apr 6, 2008

dag said:
BOCE.net was practically stolen today at NJ for $160! Wish I'd been near my computer for the end of it!

I know. I

'd too as I watched it go. I have called a moratorium on buying until I get organized again (the columns of my excel spreadsheet somehow got misalligned and now all my info is screuued) and maybe get a few sold.

But I wonder, what would the dot com of BOCE go for?

bobby9101 · Apr 6, 2008

Shenron said:
As for the low quality Quads Reece is selling... I just wish I had the cash to buy them all.

Bruno, check your PMs over at DP, making me go :zzz:
Anyway, yeah sure, a premium for $10 is a deal no matter what, especially for those that have patience and are not determined to flip it the next day; that said, the domain industry has become obsessed with next day sales
Case in point? check: http://forums.DigitalPoint/showpost.php?p=7254999&postcount=9
Poor fellow registered those domains two weeks ago and is looking for $75 each?!?! someone might want to tell him there is a reason they weren't registered before.

Shenron · Apr 6, 2008

Ouch! I overlooked that PM Bobby, sorry.

It's damn late now, I'll catch you tomorrow.

bobby9101 · Apr 6, 2008

Shenron said:
Ouch! I overlooked that PM Bobby, sorry.

It's damn late now, I'll catch you tomorrow.

Have a great night

VisualArtistFrankBonilla · Apr 6, 2008

6 .nets

I know these aren't premiums, but picked up these 6 for $36.24
uuvo.net
uulo.net
uuho.net
uiud.net
ouuv.net
ucvo.net

Frank

bobby9101 · Apr 6, 2008

Abstracts.tv said:
I know not premiums, but picked up these 6 for $36.24
uuvo.net
uulo.net
uuho.net
uiud.net
ouuv.net
ucvo.net

Frank

uuvo and uulo are nice

krx · Apr 6, 2008

bobby9101 said:
Reece has a disadvantage... with his apparent "god" status to some of the n00bs (no offense to anyone) they think "If reese is selling them, there is a reason" And they would be partially right. Reece I am sure has checked these names, they are the "lowest quality" of the premiums.

Not one has a vowel at all, good luck finding sellable acronyms for half of those

I don't know, the argument you make could just as easily be flipped: Reece is a trusted and respected reseller. I think most noobs would feel more confident they were not getting ripped off buying from him then buying from someone with less reputation here. That said, I don't think a lot of noobs are making bulk deals anyway ~ certainly they shouldn't be if they aren't able to determine for themselves whether or not it's a worthwhile deal

Also, it isn't all driven by finding endusers (ie, "sellable acronyms"). A huge portion of the money made in this industry is in the reseller market (much like the stock market). When the best quad prems are selling (to resellers) for min $50 - which many see happening by the end of the year - the worst quad prems will surely be fetching half that or more, imho.

Currently the worst quad prem LLLL.coms are selling for min $350 and up. Ten percent of that is $35. The 10% rule does not of course determine LLLL.net value (only the market can do that) ... but I think quad prem LLLL.nets are greatly undervalued in general right now ... and any quad prem for $10 is an absolute steal ... :imho:

bobby9101 · Apr 6, 2008

krx said:
I don't know, the argument you make could just as easily be flipped: Reece is a trusted and respected reseller. I think most noobs would feel more confident they were not getting ripped off buying from him then buying from someone with less reputation here. That said, I don't think a lot of noobs are making bulk deals anyway ~ certainly they shouldn't be if they aren't able to determine for themselves whether or not it's a worthwhile deal

Also, it isn't all driven by finding endusers (ie, "sellable acronyms"). A huge portion of the money made in this industry is in the reseller market (much like the stock market). When the best quad prems are selling (to resellers) for min $50 - which many see happening by the end of the year - the worst quad prems will surely be fetching half that or more, imho.

Currently the worst quad prem LLLL.coms are selling for min $350 and up. Ten percent of that is $35. The 10% rule does not of course determine LLLL.net value (only the market can do that) ... but I think quad prem LLLL.nets are greatly undervalued in general right now ... and any quad prem for $10 is an absolute steal ... :imho:

They are a great investment, no doubt, I just don't see enough long term investors that are interested in the lower quality quad premiums.

Shenron · Apr 6, 2008

I might not see enough end users for low quality .nets, but not quad premiums, and this rule applies to the next 2-3 years only :imho: after that, when all the LLLL.nets are bought out we'll immediately see low end quality QZXY.net selling for $10 and the rest jumping over 3 digits.

Basement · Apr 6, 2008

3 digits is a tad too optimistic. I'd say $75 would be a reasonable price to expect immediately after the buyout but overall, good analysis.

Andrei P. · Apr 6, 2008

Today @SnapNames

bpma.net $20.00
dlfc.net $12.00
dlgn.net $11.00
srfn.net $11.00

ps. Not mine.

bobdigital · Apr 6, 2008

snap
DBBB 151
BNNN 141
bkhk 9
ppcp 60
gnmg 13

bgmv · Apr 6, 2008

bobdigital said:
snap
DBBB 151
BNNN 141
bkhk 9
ppcp 60
gnmg 13

Those are great signs for us. Im definitley going to hold my ABBB and BAAA for awhile. PPCP is also great for us, looks like the LLLL.net train is about to take off.

buckshotdots · Apr 6, 2008

I grabbed Nake today at snap. The free dictionary says its a word-

Nake- To make naked

Keywords (Autodetected) nake
Frequency (Google) 2,270,000
in Anchor Text 23800
in Title 12100
in URL 12400
Backlinks 1
PPC Ads # 12
Max PPC Bid $0.39
PPC Income/day $126.1
Overture/mo 10698
Wordtracker/day 1166

g-

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