The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

[italiandragon]

Hello, I think it would be pretty useful to keep track of all LLLL.com sales , even the little ones under $100 so that , pretty soon , when the available LLLL.com will be finished , we`ll have a better idea on market prices.

It is important that these sales are confirmed. So before to post, make sure payment went OK.

I will start with todays` Sedo confirmed sales:

FISE.com 2,700 Euros
TSRT.com US $760
VEUP.com US $1,700


Also, I found interesting to see this average LLLL, getting bids up to $51 and reserve not me. It says it all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110154111735_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

 

[rpanella]

I have a TDNAM auction question. I won a couple LLLL.com domains. They are not expiring domains, but domains placed on auction by the owner. I paid Godaddy, and now I have been waiting 8 days.

One name says "Pending Initiate Change of Account From Seller"

The other tells me to email the seller for an authorization code, which I did. I got no response. The name is registered at Enom, according to Whois.

What is this? I have to follow around the seller to get a name transferred after I pay Godaddy? Can the seller back out of the deal?

Anyone know how this works?

I am currently having the same problem. 3 domains won over a month ago now which I have still not received. Two are at Godaddy and from a seller here on Namepros, and one is at a different registrar and that person hasn't responded to a single email.

I thought domains had to be at Godaddy in order to auction them there. Also, with the domains registered and auctioned at Godaddy, and the payment processed through Godaddy, I don't see why they aren't also involved in push. Seems like they should automatically do the push once payment is confirm and before the seller is paid, but apparently not.

 

[Domainace]

That's bad news. I called Godaddy, but they were unable to answer my questions because the auction guys were gone for the day. Worse, since Godaddy often doesn't automatically refund money on failed transfers and such, I wonder if they have the same policy here? Surely, a certain percentage of people never claim a refund - perhaps assuming it would be automatic.

I'll call again tomorrow to try to get more info.

 

[rpanella]

I emailed them and this was their response:

However, if the domain was listed by another Godaddy Auction member, the domain does not transfer automatically. You will need to use the ‘Email Seller’ link in your Godaddy Auction account to contact the seller and work out the transfer of the domain name. If the seller does not provide the domain name, you will need to file a dispute per section 4. of the Domain Name Aftermarket Membership Agreement:

“To file a Dispute, you must submit an email to [email protected] . The email must include, Your account number, name and contact information, the order number associated with the transaction, the domain name over which the Dispute arises and a detailed account of the Dispute. Such email must be received within 20 days from the sale date.”

I do not understand why a domain registered at Godaddy, sold at Godaddy, and paid for via Godaddy, would not also be transferred by Godaddy.

Also, I don't see why one would have to jump through so many hoops to "dispute" a transaction when Godaddy has access to both the buyer and seller's account, and can clearly see whether the domain has been pushed.

 

[gladdy]

PWID.COM
$2150
Sedo recent sales

 

[RCK]

PWID.COM
$2150
Sedo recent sales

Nice ! PassWordIdentificationDevice %%-

 

[DNK.it]

vpvm | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 70 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 2

ribh | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 140 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 5

odsv | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 100 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 1

osei | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 460 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 6

plpv | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 100 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 1

xxgq | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 70 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 2

uyuw | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 60 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 1

qvum | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 70 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 2

bpct | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 159 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 5

johe | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 665 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 8

rzeq | Bidding History
Winning Bid: 60 USD
Reserve met!
Winning Bidder: Bidder 1

sedo

 

[Semtex]

Today on TDNX:

zmiy $41
zxib $25
xjuh $25
vxse $25
qryz $25
hufx $45
renewals have been added

Today on Namejet:

fwlt $79

 

[tetrapak]

NJ:

hmls $300
osil $480 (excellent buy, whoever bought it!)

 

[Semtex]

Today on TDNX:

svnq $25
nquo $25
jrrs $65
jajf $46
renewals have been added

 

[tetrapak]

NJ:

lspe $160

 

[Sameh]

Sedo:

quho $1,250
johe $655
bpct $159
dgmh $149
ribh $140
nrtf $139

 

[tetrapak]

NJ:

aapw $220
mlfi $231
radd $3,201

 

[Semtex]

Today on TDNX:

tllv $90
mbik $124
iqbv $40
djow $91
cakn $75
cagq $41
renewals have been added

 

[Semtex]

Today on TDNX:

yvai $75
yvfr $30
vfai $30
tqia $80
rwyl $25
qaqz $30
miuq $75
jlvo $90
ffzl $31
renewals have been added

 

[tetrapak]

Sedo:

hdgp $131

SN:

seqe $370
gbmb $149
bdnp $200

NJ:

pnlp $145
yeru $553
cnlc $540

 

[-AR-]

LLLL.com sales are looking ok. I have not been active for about a month and a half (busy), has much happened in the LLLL.com industry?.

Also I wanted to ask you guys about your thoughts on a quad premium regged in 1993 and never dropped since then?

thanks in advance

 

[bmugford]

I think the LLLL.com market has stabilized quite a bit recently. Quad Premiums for example seem to be trading in a pretty stable range on any respectable auction venue.

To me age on a domain is like age on a fine wine. It can make an already good domain more appealing. However, at the same time most potential end users don't care that much about age.

Domains with age like that are more of a domainer trophy. I would pay a premium for a 15+ year old domain, but not a massive premium.

Brad

LLLL.com sales are looking ok. I have not been active for about a month and a half (busy), has much happened in the LLLL.com industry?.

Also I wanted to ask you guys about your thoughts on a quad premium regged in 1993 and never dropped since then?

thanks in advance

 

[-REECE-]

If I was buying a domain for it's age, I would focus on trying to find a domain with a long history of being indexed in the search engines -- that way the value extends beyond simply being old to having an advantage in the SERPs.

 

[Nem0]

LLLL.com sales are looking ok. I have not been active for about a month and a half (busy), has much happened in the LLLL.com industry?.

Also I wanted to ask you guys about your thoughts on a quad premium regged in 1993 and never dropped since then?

thanks in advance

LLLL.com sales at eBay have been absolutely uneventful lately, with many lower-than-normal sales. Nothing individually worth posting; there are some sales in the $1-range, many in the $5-range, many in $10-range etc.

 

[Domainace]

LLLL.com sales at eBay have been absolutely uneventful lately, with many lower-than-normal sales. Nothing individually worth posting; there are some sales in the $1-range, many in the $5-range, many in $10-range etc.

Yes, been a lot of junk and junk prices. That said, when the good names pop up they do draw bids. And example:

NVON.com $280

I think all the dumping of bottom quality names on Ebay has dampened the appetite for anything but obviously good names. In the past, you could sneak a few $40 or $50 sales of rubbish through. Not now.

 

[-AR-]

I think the LLLL.com market has stabilized quite a bit recently. Quad Premiums for example seem to be trading in a pretty stable range on any respectable auction venue.

To me age on a domain is like age on a fine wine. It can make an already good domain more appealing. However, at the same time most potential end users don't care that much about age.

Domains with age like that are more of a domainer trophy. I would pay a premium for a 15+ year old domain, but not a massive premium.

Brad

Its nice to hear about stability in the market, although I dont know if it will last. You are right about the aged domains, really old domains can be seen as a trophy, I view them as an antique myself.

Thanks for the response, I would leave u rep but for some reason it doesnt allow me

If I was buying a domain for it's age, I would focus on trying to find a domain with a long history of being indexed in the search engines -- that way the value extends beyond simply being old to having an advantage in the SERPs.

True, I try and look for that too at times but I find it hard to measure all the relavant indicators and put an appropriate price on it. I guess its just practice.

Would also leave u rep but dont allow me...

LLLL.com sales at eBay have been absolutely uneventful lately, with many lower-than-normal sales. Nothing individually worth posting; there are some sales in the $1-range, many in the $5-range, many in $10-range etc.

I tried ebay for a bit and then just deicded to stop with it, 2 of my domains went for way too cheap there. Although I have noticed u generally do well with your sales, keep up the good work and good luck! Maybe time to find some bargains there?

 

[-REECE-]

I've been struggling to get $2.50 per on expiring ones lately.. Frustrating.

LLLL.com sales at eBay have been absolutely uneventful lately, with many lower-than-normal sales. Nothing individually worth posting; there are some sales in the $1-range, many in the $5-range, many in $10-range etc.

 

[snoop]

I've been struggling to get $2.50 per on expiring ones lately.. Frustrating.

You probably need to lower your price.

LLLL.com sales at eBay have been absolutely uneventful lately, with many lower-than-normal sales. Nothing individually worth posting; there are some sales in the $1-range, many in the $5-range, many in $10-range etc.

I like the way you describe sales now as "lower than normal", what is is "normal", where the market was months ago?

Folks it is time to ditch the low end of the market, stop wasting money on renewals, the tide isn't going to suddenly turn, even Nemo doesn't bother to report the sales anymore, that is how bad sales are. In the next 6-12 months either the buyout will collapse or people will waste millions renewing this junk.

Look at what is happening elsewhere, the stock market has has risen 28% from its lows, optimism has improved, whilst the losses from LLLL.com continues to grow. Low quality LLLL.com domains are boom time names, the wait will be years and it will be painful for those who keep throwing reg fees at them.

 

[tetrapak]

"whilst the losses from LLLL.com continues to grow." Snoop, please take a look at other LLLL.com's also than the low quality ones, which only take up a few % of the whole..

 

[bmugford]

Welcome back Snoop. I missed you.

BTW if you want to let HealthCare.net go for the same price as Cats.net then send me a message.

Brad

I like the way you describe sales now as "lower than normal", what is is "normal", where the market was months ago?

Folks it is time to ditch the low end of the market, stop wasting money on renewals, the tide isn't going to suddenly turn, even Nemo doesn't bother to report the sales anymore, that is how bad sales are. In the next 6-12 months either the buyout will collapse or people will waste millions renewing this junk.

Look at what is happening elsewhere, the stock market has has risen 28% from its lows, optimism has improved, whilst the losses from LLLL.com continues to grow. Low quality LLLL.com domains are boom time names, the wait will be years and it will be painful for those who keep throwing reg fees at them.