Pleased to present Public Beta for automatic Appraisals

I think I did the last algo update between your runs. Since december there should not be any major changes. The values may change a little bit with time, and as more sales data comes in the algo will be adjusted accordingly.

Variation of about 20-30% is not significant as it's within the margin of error anyway.

Thanks
Esa

I sure hope this isn't the case...

http://blog.domaintools.com/2008/01/network-solutions-steals-domain-ideas-confirmed/ (search for estibot in the comments)

If this is true then it is very disturbing.

It's a known fact that any whois call is vulnerable to sniffers/tasters who register domains that other users search, and then taste them for traffic. It has nothing to do with EstiBot other than that EstiBot performs a whois search with each appraisal. The "stealing" happens at the end of the whois servers, such as Network Solutions.

I do not give or sell the EstiBot searches to anyone, they are not even recorded. It would be the most idiotic thing for a webmaster to do, try to con smart domainers - especially when I work hard to make EstiBot meet the needs of domainers

Like any webmaster, I want traffic, especially repeat traffic, I want my site to be useful and have a great reputation. These goals are incompatible with abusing the searches. Domainers are smart and would abandon such a site.

I've had 3 or 4 reports of domains having been registered by someone else after they searched it on EstiBot.

Considering the 500,000 page views a month, that's not a lot. Not to mention it would still fall well within the realm of coincidence.

But yes, whois servers are compromised.

The Bulk tool at http://estibot.com/batch.php has been updated!

You can now separate your keywords by capitalization:

Enter:
usedcars.com if you want EstiBot to attempt keyword detection
UsedCars.com if you want to define the keywords yourself

This is useful because the keyword detection routine isn't working as well as I would hope. Now you can input your list of up to 100 domain names with custom keyword definition

thanks
esa

Hey Esa -
The bulk appraisal is not working for me. It was down last week, came back a few days ago and has gone away again. Looks fine until the results page omits the ... results!

estibot.com said:

I'd like to invite you to give me some feedback on this idea.

I have made some powerful versions of the EstiBot tools that I'd like to share.

One is the bulk type-in traffic checker - you could input up to 30,000 domains at a time to have it detect those with OVT w/ext or WT w/ext. It takes just a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 domains.

The other one is a mega bulk version of the "bulk appraisal", only a little different. Again, you can enter 30,000 domains and have all of them sorted by OVT / WT / google results / google ad score / appraisal. This thing takes a bit longer to run because it needs to parse the keywords, and the keyword parser is far from perfect, but it will find the gems.

Also a bulk keyword analysis feature, where you can enter search terms / key phrases, up to 30,000 at a time, and have them display all the search data that you see on EstiBot main appraisal page - and some extras, too. AGain it only takes a couple of minutes to analyze 30,000 keywords.

Now, I have nowhere near the server power to make these tools public, so I'd need a separate server for these functions.

That's why I'm asking: Would you be willing to pay a little monthly fee to get access to these sort of tools, and if so, how much would you be willing to pay per month? For nearly unlimited searches, that is. You could analyze -say- 500,000 domains/keywords per day.

I would like to provide these tools for free, but due to bandwidth/CPU limits it's not possible. The current tools are free thanks to your donations and some ad income.

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I would suggest opening a new thread for this.

I would pay about $20/year ($2/month) for the tool.

Cheers,
-- Denis.

Thanks Denis, that's important info for me.

-Esa

It's time for another brave prediction game: GreatDomains auction is going on and will be finishing tomorrow.

Here, then are the EstiBot.com predictions for the final prices.

I'm trying something new here. I have run these domains through both the single tool and the bulk tool. The appraisal given here is the range between the valuations given by single and bulk appraisals. They employ different algorithms due to the special resource requirements of the bulk tool, so they give somewhat different valuations.

I'm trying to see if this range can be used for giving a more general, more ballpark appraisal for domains. The values here represent $US. Some of the domains are priced in EUR, so we'll have to convert once the auction is over.

indian.com 320,000 - 1,000,000
49.com 52,000 - 140,000
sit.com 150,000 - 240,000
optimize.com 31,000 - 32,000
flats.com 56,000 - 68,000
ankle.com 40,000 - 63,000
w4.com 19,000 - 32,000
tees.com 92,000 - 120,000
plo.com 33,000 - 41,000
dormitory.com 18,000 - 26,000
647.com 18,000 - 24,000
puu.com 14,000 - 17,000
uul.com 2,200 - 9,800
niq.com 8,000
ojj.com 7,500
uoo.com 5,700 - 9,400
jfn.com 7,800
jln.com 7,700 - 8,700
vko.com 8.200 - 8,600
bqa.com 7,400
jyh.com 8,100
kyp.com 5,800 - 12,000
exu.com 6,800 - 10,000
ryi.com 5,000 - 13,000
synthetic.com 25,000 - 47,000
zmy.com 6,900
xws.com 5,700 - 9,900
though.com 24,000 - 53,000
wfz.com 7,000
seasonPasses.com 2,200 - 2,500
sexuality.net 34,000 - 36,000
specialReport.com 22,000 - 41,000
industrialSupplies.com 22,000 - 560,000
disgust.com 15,000 - 20,000
influential.com 11,000 - 22,000
virginIslands.net 840 - 1,500
weak.net 4,300 - 6,500
nubians.com 5,200 - 8,000
summerLeague.com 3,200 - 5,600
modems.net 4,000 - 4,400
playspace.com 1,800
directDeposits.com 1,500 - 5,400
carFinancer.com 20
notables.com 6,700 - 19,000
freshPoultry.com 400 - 1,100
tabloidPhotos.com 170 - 1,100
boticario.net 160 - 320
doners.net 20
officially.com 15,000 - 21,000
naturalismo.com 2,000 - 4,900
frenchStudent.com 450
telephoneService.net 410 - 1,000
yourGenealogy.com 90
cellists.com 3,200 - 8,100
goldRimmed.com 670 - 1,600
hiFives.com 1,100 - 2,300
interleaguePlay.com 380 - 990
leadOffHitter.com 370 - 790
moans.net 1,400 - 3,300
scoopable.com 240
smallForward.com 850 - 1,800
thirdBaseman.com 2,200 - 5,400

For the record, here are the exact appraisals from the single tool, which is still my primary system and IMO more reliable:

indian.com 320,000
49.com 140,000
sit.com 150,000
optimize.com 31,000
flats.com 56,000
ankle.com 40,000
w4.com 32,000
tees.com 120,000
plo.com 33,000
dormitory.com 18,000
647.com 18,000
puu.com 14,000
uul.com 9,800
niq.com 8,000
ojj.com 7,500
uoo.com 9,400
jfn.com 7,800
jln.com 8,700
vko.com 8,600
bqa.com 7,400
jyh.com 8,100
kyp.com 12,000
exu.com 10,000
ryi.com 13,000
synthetic.com 25,000
zmy.com 6,900
xws.com 9,900
though.com 53,000
wfz.com 7,000
seasonPasses.com 2,200
sexuality.net 34,000
specialReport.com 41,000
industrialSupplies.com 560,000
disgust.com 15,000
influential.com 22,000
virginIslands.net 1,500
weak.net 4,300
nubians.com 5,200
summerLeague.com 5,600
modems.net 4,400
playspace.com 1,800
directDeposits.com 5,400
carFinancer.com 20
notables.com 6,700
freshPoultry.com 400
tabloidPhotos.com 170
boticario.net 160
doners.net 20
officially.com 21,000
naturalismo.com 2,000
frenchStudent.com 450
telephoneService.net 1,000
yourGenealogy.com 90
cellists.com 3,200
goldRimmed.com 670
hiFives.com 1,100
interleaguePlay.com 380
leadOffHitter.com 790
moans.net 1,400
scoopable.com 240
smallForward.com 850
thirdBaseman.com 5,400

I'm working on redesigning the estibot pages. I plan to revamp the whole thing when I have the time, but I already made some changes today in anticipation of the new look.

I synced the css on all pages so everything looks more in order now. The problem with making changes is that I made the whole thing using Notepad (actually, TextEdit) and raw html so there is no CMS....

I also resized some ads and such, so that it looks neater. I increased the width of the page and made some changes to improve compatibility with Internet Explorer. The sidebars are now in the right place in IE, too. IE is a bummer, why do people still use it?

And last, but by no means least, I installed the new logo, designed by our very own Bannen! That's a fine logo and no mistake!

-Esa

Much cleaner looking - good job.

Gonna give us a report on your previous post re: GreatDomains auction predictions?

Good job.
I miss the old logo which was more distinctive than the circle and arrow that replaced it, and the favicon is missing.

I did not realise you had so many tools available, such as the IDN converter tool.

Thanks Cera and Jido!

Here are the results so far for the prediction game. The results confirm again that EstiBot is a reasonably reliable ballpark appraiser. The single appraisal tool is performing up to par.

However, I am not happy with the performance of the bulk tool. It needs a lot more development. It's just a resource hog, that's why it's so limited in scope. I can make it better, I just need more (expensive) server resources.

So, the results. Here is a direct comparison to the single appraisal tool (my primary tool). The GreatDomains.com auction results are from http://www.NameBio.com. For those who read this for the first time, the predictions were posted here before the auction.

I don't know how to post a table here, so here's how to read:
Domain EstiBot Prediction Auction close

tees.com 120,000 252,500 Somewhat underestimated
49.com 140,000 91,500 Slightly overestimated - nice buy?
industrialSupplies.com 56,000 14,500 Somewhat overestimated
uoo.com 9,400 12,845 right ballpark - Slightly under
647.com 18,000 9,999 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
puu.com 14,000 9,100 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
uul.com 9,800 9,100 Very close
ojj.com 7,500 8600 Very close
though.com 53,000 7950 Overestimated
seasonPasses.com 2,200 6900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
zmy.com 6,900 6100 Very close
specialReport.com 41,000 5100 Overestimated, nice buy, considering the iReport.com sale
virginIslands.net 1,500 4900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
directDeposits.com 5,400 2550 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
sexuality.net 34,000 2050 Overestimated, but good buy
summerLeague.com 5,600 1950 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
weak.com 4,300 1351 right ballpark - Somewhat overestiated
freshPoultry.com 400 511 Very close
tabloidPhotos.com 170 510 Right ballpark
doners.net 20 257 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
telephoneService.com 1,000 210 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
moans.net 1,400 160 Somewhat overestimated
leadOffHitter.com 790 115 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
yourGenealogy.com 90 100 very close

So - no comment on this result?? When I publish the results of objective testing with a larger number of names, no one says anything..

Well, what do you think? Good? Bad? Not too shabby for an automated system?

Thanks-

Esa

Estibot goes AJAX!

Pleased to present the newest tool: Super fast overture suggestion tool here:
http://estibot.com/overture.php

PS: You can also now see a sample of comparable domain sale prices from the Namebio database in the appraisal results screen.

estibot.com said:

Pleased to present the newest tool: Super fast overture suggestion tool here:
http://estibot.com/overture.php

PS: You can also now see a sample of comparable domain sale prices from the Namebio database in the appraisal results screen.

Click to expand...

Not working for me, no results appeared at all and the ads placed right under the 'Suggestions:' will mislead people into thinking those were the results.

Oh well. :blink:

Strange, which browser are you using? Have you got Javascript enabled?

I have tested it and found it working with the following systems:
Mac OS X Firefox
Mac OS X Safari
Windows XP Firefox
Windows XP Internet Explorer 6

PS: I removed the word 'suggestions' it was of course not intended to mislead anyone. Once you get it to work you will see what it was for.

The ads need to be there because running estibot is expensive. You can always donate a few bucks regularly every month to help me cover the costs and reduce the number of ads

Ah I have nothing against ads at all. Just that no results was appearing for me and I only saw the ads below the word 'suggestions' and felt that it was kinda misleading.

I'm on Windows, Opera browser, javascript enabled.

Opera.... that's the only major browser I haven't tested

Let me see if I can download that to my windows platform and test it!

OK: I tested it with Opera/9.25 US English in Windows XP. It works fine.

Try this link: http://www.objectgraph.com/dictionary/

Just to see if Ajax works on your system

Anybody else try it? Work ok? Whaddya think of it?

estibot.com said:

Thanks Cera and Jido!

Here are the results so far for the prediction game. The results confirm again that EstiBot is a reasonably reliable ballpark appraiser. The single appraisal tool is performing up to par.

However, I am not happy with the performance of the bulk tool. It needs a lot more development. It's just a resource hog, that's why it's so limited in scope. I can make it better, I just need more (expensive) server resources.

So, the results. Here is a direct comparison to the single appraisal tool (my primary tool). The GreatDomains.com auction results are from http://www.NameBio.com. For those who read this for the first time, the predictions were posted here before the auction.

I don't know how to post a table here, so here's how to read:
Domain EstiBot Prediction Auction close

tees.com 120,000 252,500 Somewhat underestimated
49.com 140,000 91,500 Slightly overestimated - nice buy?
industrialSupplies.com 56,000 14,500 Somewhat overestimated
uoo.com 9,400 12,845 right ballpark - Slightly under
647.com 18,000 9,999 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
puu.com 14,000 9,100 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
uul.com 9,800 9,100 Very close
ojj.com 7,500 8600 Very close
though.com 53,000 7950 Overestimated
seasonPasses.com 2,200 6900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
zmy.com 6,900 6100 Very close
specialReport.com 41,000 5100 Overestimated, nice buy, considering the iReport.com sale
virginIslands.net 1,500 4900 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
directDeposits.com 5,400 2550 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
sexuality.net 34,000 2050 Overestimated, but good buy
summerLeague.com 5,600 1950 right ballpark - Slightly overestimated
weak.com 4,300 1351 right ballpark - Somewhat overestiated
freshPoultry.com 400 511 Very close
tabloidPhotos.com 170 510 Right ballpark
doners.net 20 257 right ballpark - Somewhat underestimated
telephoneService.com 1,000 210 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
moans.net 1,400 160 Somewhat overestimated
leadOffHitter.com 790 115 right ballpark - Somewhat overestimated
yourGenealogy.com 90 100 very close

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What is the overall result?

Single dictionary words look overestimated at the moment, also telephoneService.com (right ballpark?)

The tool is quite good!

WRT the bulk tools: the bulk Overture is nice. Sometimes the bulk appraisal returns no results! Ie. the list of appraised domains is empty. Weird.