Domain Scam Alert

trendicator · 01-29-2008, 09:35 PM

I just got scammed by someone who offered $1500 for 8 of my 4 letter dotcoms, and now i lost 8 domains & no money at all

he made the payment of $1500 to my paypal account, when i first checked it, it seemed perfectly fine, so i pushed the 8 domains to him. An hour later, when i checked my paypal account again, the money was gone as it has been chargeback by paypal claiming that the payment was not authorized.

????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/425414-domain-scam-alert.html
the scammer uses 2 email addresses:

kevnospam@aol.com
kevdomain@yahoo.com

after some research, someone has found out his real identity being:

Dorobantu Marian
admin@romaniapenet.com
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, 8700
Romania
40+721328329

the 8 4-letter domains I lost are:

HUUQ.COM
KYYR.COM
QUUH.COM
LJCJ.COM
VUEQ.COM
VZFC.COM
WUUQ.COM
UUBD.COM

other people have been scammed by the same scammer
so Domainers be aware...

Red Rock · 01-29-2008, 09:41 PM

What a complete Jag!
OK,
You can file a dispute with PayPal,
and they can re-coup the funds from this Jerkoff!
I hope you have e-mails saved on the payment details!
Send PayPal, every bit of info...
I had to do that many times (from my E-bay sales) with people who
have claimed to not have received merchandise.
They will take care of you, just don't give up!
Good Luck, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that!
Red Rock!

OK,
I just went to PayPal's charge back info,
and I see a potential problem...
They state how you will be covered as long as...
you ship tangible goods.
So, I think this may not be covered under PayPal's seller protection.
So, I am not sure about seller protection for domain names.
This is a HUGE issue, since I wanted to start selling some of my domains on E-bay also!
I am giving you the link on chargebacks..

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ChargebacksFAQ
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414

I really hope this is addressed, and you win!
And this Jag gets executed...or something similar!
Good Luck,
Red Rock!

biohammer · 01-29-2008, 10:25 PM

PayPal will definitely investigate and spammer's are usually dumb in some way. they will check the payment IP and it will most likely match their complaint IP indicating it was most likely an authorized purchase...but it will take time....

Why don't you use the same tactic on them by contacting your registrar and letting them know there was an unauthorized transfer of your domains........and demanding them to be pushed back into your account.

I think Domains might be considered a tangible item as it has title of ownership attached to it. I too would be interested to find out for sure

weblord · 01-29-2008, 10:31 PM

request a chargeback and show your conversations and proof of ownership of domain the cancel ownership email you have received from your registrar.
i hope this is just recent event.

Don · 01-29-2008, 10:51 PM

Be on the lookout for this asswipe guys.

He made an offer for GFXO.com via email right about the same time he was pulling this sh*t on trendicator.

Fortunately - I told him escrow or sedo only since he wasn't an NP or DNF member... he told me he was OK with sedo, probably hoping to gain my trust and just go with PP, so I sent him a sedo link - never heard back from him.

Paypal is absolutely HORRIBLE with domain scams.

Bad guy wins almost every time.

Wish you the best Trendicator.

**Michelle** · 01-29-2008, 10:57 PM

That really sucks

I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

weblord · 01-29-2008, 11:02 PM

yeah you can also request an undo from your registrar up to 15 days as wwd/gd resellers can by sending an email to undo@secureserver.net they will require at least 2 valid ids from you, scanned.

i almost forgot this, thanks mellowmasher for reminding.

Originally Posted by mellowmasher

That really sucks

I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

Peter · 01-29-2008, 11:03 PM

I assume you have already contacted the registrar. If not do so immediately they can at least hold the domains and ensure they cannot be transferred. They may even given enough proof return the domains to you.

***EG.domains*** · 01-29-2008, 11:04 PM

That guy just scammed me too..

His YM email : r1gsxr@yahoo.com
His Paypal : iggymorris@gmail.com
His Paypal Name : James Morris

Red Rock · 01-29-2008, 11:08 PM

So,
You as a seller,
are at the complete utter mercy of PayPal!
This Jerkoff, disputed the charge with his credit card company???
Well, Let's hope that a domain name....
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414
Is a tangible item!
So, you have PayPal seller protection!
Do us all a favor, and don't give up!!!
This could be the start of a Huge Scam, that scares me!
The only quick method (from person to person) is PayPal,
unless you have an established site rolling, and are set-up to take credit cards.
Please as you get more and more info, on this Prick, and as your situation unfolds...please keep us up-dated.
Everything I want to do as a seller, would be with PayPal!
Well, I think everyone feels your pain,
and everyone will be rooting for you!
keep us posted,
I want to see this discussion on the first page...
until it get's resolved!
Take Care,
Red Rock!

***EG.domains*** · 01-29-2008, 11:12 PM

I sent email to undo@secureserver.net and waiting reply..

Not willing to give UP.

domainco.us · 01-29-2008, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the heads up

**Michelle** · 01-29-2008, 11:31 PM

Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also

weblord · 01-29-2008, 11:36 PM

done this already, they will refer you to your registrar.

Originally Posted by mellowmasher

Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also

***EG.domains*** · 01-29-2008, 11:58 PM

Another forum's member just reported that he sold ccc.com to this guy today .. no Paypal dispute yet..

Ronald Regging · 01-30-2008, 12:02 AM

Did some digging, heres what I found so far:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491

A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com

PayMass.com is owned by:

Whois Record

Registrant:
Dorobantu Marian
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, Constanta 8700
Romania

Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov..

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...name-ebay.html

Looks to be the same guy.
I gotta go to bed, so maybe someone else can take it further and find out more info?

Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least

duceman · 01-30-2008, 12:04 AM

Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

***EG.domains*** · 01-30-2008, 12:10 AM

Thanks for your help Herb

Another member reported that guy contacted him as well.

He is being very active today..

Originally Posted by Ronald Regging

Did some digging, heres what I found so far:
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414

.........

Don · 01-30-2008, 12:34 AM

DOROBANTUMARIAN.COM - is available.

Not sure if it's their real name or not - it'd sure be a fun project to dev if it is.

whitebark · 01-30-2008, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by duceman

Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

He may be using more than one account. As I was reading this thread the sound notice went off notifying me of a new email - a paypal fishing scam...
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414

Paypal is such a source of fraud in what we do.

Ronald Regging · 01-30-2008, 12:58 AM

Just found something
else...http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr

Its not really helpful, but notice the r1gsxr username and the person's name is Marian Dorobantu.. I dont think there is any doubt that this guy is the one behind these scams...

Now it's our job to make him sorry

Don · 01-30-2008, 01:19 AM

This thread is probably going to get more exposure... might want to move future posts to it...

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...-namepros.html

Bill · 01-30-2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Username Usergroup Email Join Date Last Login Posts
securekev Account Closed securekev@yahoo.com 11-07-2007 01-29-2008 25
????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414
securenkvd Account Closed kevnospam@aol.com 11-24-2007 11-24-2007 0
kevnospam Account Closed just_a_imp@yahoo.com 01-29-2008 01-29-2008 0

-Bill

Semtex · 01-30-2008, 03:27 AM

Ever since Ebay bought Paypal, this has been a major problem with any merchandise.

That is why Google Checkout, Bidpay, and ProPay were invented. Uses Credit Cards and can be disputed like any other transaction.

trendicator · 01-30-2008, 04:17 AM

thanks for the reply guys.

on paypal, his name is Brad Farmer, and i doubt it's his real name, but apparently his paypal account is verified.

i just hope paypal would sort it out and will keep you guys posted

thanks

01-29-2008, 09:35 PM	THREAD STARTER #1 (permalink)
trendicator Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,069	Domain Scam Alert I just got scammed by someone who offered $1500 for 8 of my 4 letter dotcoms, and now i lost 8 domains & no money at all he made the payment of $1500 to my paypal account, when i first checked it, it seemed perfectly fine, so i pushed the 8 domains to him. An hour later, when i checked my paypal account again, the money was gone as it has been chargeback by paypal claiming that the payment was not authorized. ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/warnings-and-alerts/425414-domain-scam-alert.html the scammer uses 2 email addresses: kevnospam@aol.com kevdomain@yahoo.com after some research, someone has found out his real identity being: Dorobantu Marian admin@romaniapenet.com bd tomis nr 68 Constanta, 8700 Romania 40+721328329 the 8 4-letter domains I lost are: HUUQ.COM KYYR.COM QUUH.COM LJCJ.COM VUEQ.COM VZFC.COM WUUQ.COM UUBD.COM other people have been scammed by the same scammer so Domainers be aware... __________________ LangZi.com PR3, Alexa: 302717 Need a push to Auction! \| StreamPro.com \| StudentDate.com \| StudentDates.com \| ThePhilippines.net \|StudentFlats.com, Alexa traffic: 316,455. Looking for a buyer Last edited by trendicator; 01-30-2008 at 06:49 PM.

01-29-2008, 09:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red Rock Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 999	File a dispute with papal! What a complete Jag! OK, You can file a dispute with PayPal, and they can re-coup the funds from this Jerkoff! I hope you have e-mails saved on the payment details! Send PayPal, every bit of info... I had to do that many times (from my E-bay sales) with people who have claimed to not have received merchandise. They will take care of you, just don't give up! Good Luck, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that! Red Rock! OK, I just went to PayPal's charge back info, and I see a potential problem... They state how you will be covered as long as... you ship tangible goods. So, I think this may not be covered under PayPal's seller protection. So, I am not sure about seller protection for domain names. This is a HUGE issue, since I wanted to start selling some of my domains on E-bay also! I am giving you the link on chargebacks.. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ChargebacksFAQ ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414 I really hope this is addressed, and you win! And this Jag gets executed...or something similar! Good Luck, Red Rock! Last edited by Red Rock; 01-29-2008 at 09:56 PM.

01-29-2008, 10:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
biohammer NamePros Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 159	PayPal will definitely investigate and spammer's are usually dumb in some way. they will check the payment IP and it will most likely match their complaint IP indicating it was most likely an authorized purchase...but it will take time.... Why don't you use the same tactic on them by contacting your registrar and letting them know there was an unauthorized transfer of your domains........and demanding them to be pushed back into your account. I think Domains might be considered a tangible item as it has title of ownership attached to it. I too would be interested to find out for sure Last edited by biohammer; 01-29-2008 at 10:28 PM. Reason: 1

01-29-2008, 10:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,785	request a chargeback and show your conversations and proof of ownership of domain the cancel ownership email you have received from your registrar. i hope this is just recent event. __________________ Nabaza.com - Amaia

01-29-2008, 10:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 932	Be on the lookout for this asswipe guys. He made an offer for GFXO.com via email right about the same time he was pulling this sh*t on trendicator. Fortunately - I told him escrow or sedo only since he wasn't an NP or DNF member... he told me he was OK with sedo, probably hoping to gain my trust and just go with PP, so I sent him a sedo link - never heard back from him. Paypal is absolutely HORRIBLE with domain scams. Bad guy wins almost every time. Wish you the best Trendicator. __________________ ` ... .

01-29-2008, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,036	That really sucks I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you.. Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

01-29-2008, 11:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Peter NamePros Expert Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 5,069	I assume you have already contacted the registrar. If not do so immediately they can at least hold the domains and ensure they cannot be transferred. They may even given enough proof return the domains to you. __________________ Manage your portfolio using my new Domain Portfolio Management script. Securing Your Domain Name From Theft

01-29-2008, 11:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
*EG.domains* GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,040	That guy just scammed me too.. His YM email : r1gsxr@yahoo.com His Paypal : iggymorris@gmail.com His Paypal Name : James Morris __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale! Last edited by EG.domains; 02-01-2008 at 10:02 PM.

01-29-2008, 11:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Red Rock Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 999	So, You as a seller, are at the complete utter mercy of PayPal! This Jerkoff, disputed the charge with his credit card company??? Well, Let's hope that a domain name.... ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414 Is a tangible item! So, you have PayPal seller protection! Do us all a favor, and don't give up!!! This could be the start of a Huge Scam, that scares me! The only quick method (from person to person) is PayPal, unless you have an established site rolling, and are set-up to take credit cards. Please as you get more and more info, on this Prick, and as your situation unfolds...please keep us up-dated. Everything I want to do as a seller, would be with PayPal! Well, I think everyone feels your pain, and everyone will be rooting for you! keep us posted, I want to see this discussion on the first page... until it get's resolved! Take Care, Red Rock!

01-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
*EG.domains* GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,040	I sent email to undo@secureserver.net and waiting reply.. Not willing to give UP. __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale!

01-29-2008, 11:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
domainco.us NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 158	Thanks for the heads up __________________ Internet Safety for Kids

01-29-2008, 11:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
Michelle Be Happy... Don't Worry Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 16,036	Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also

01-29-2008, 11:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
*EG.domains* GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 7,040	Another forum's member just reported that he sold ccc.com to this guy today .. no Paypal dispute yet.. __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale!

01-30-2008, 12:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ronald Regging Ex-President Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mount Joy, PA Posts: 2,652	Did some digging, heres what I found so far: ????: NamePros.com http://www.namepros.com/showthread.php?t=425414 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491 A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com PayMass.com is owned by: Whois Record Registrant: Dorobantu Marian bd tomis nr 68 Constanta, Constanta 8700 Romania Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov.. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...name-ebay.html Looks to be the same guy. I gotta go to bed, so maybe someone else can take it further and find out more info? Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least Last edited by Ronald Regging; 01-30-2008 at 12:13 AM.

01-30-2008, 12:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
duceman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 2,279	Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

01-30-2008, 12:34 AM	#19 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 932	DOROBANTUMARIAN.COM - is available. Not sure if it's their real name or not - it'd sure be a fun project to dev if it is. __________________ ` ... .

01-30-2008, 12:58 AM	#21 (permalink)
Ronald Regging Ex-President Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mount Joy, PA Posts: 2,652	Just found something else...http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr Its not really helpful, but notice the r1gsxr username and the person's name is Marian Dorobantu.. I dont think there is any doubt that this guy is the one behind these scams... Now it's our job to make him sorry

01-30-2008, 01:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 932	This thread is probably going to get more exposure... might want to move future posts to it... http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...-namepros.html __________________ ` ... .

01-30-2008, 03:27 AM	#24 (permalink)
Semtex Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,964	I stopped using Paypal a couple years ago !! Ever since Ebay bought Paypal, this has been a major problem with any merchandise. That is why Google Checkout, Bidpay, and ProPay were invented. Uses Credit Cards and can be disputed like any other transaction.

01-30-2008, 04:17 AM	THREAD STARTER #25 (permalink)
trendicator Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,069	thanks for the reply guys. on paypal, his name is Brad Farmer, and i doubt it's his real name, but apparently his paypal account is verified. i just hope paypal would sort it out and will keep you guys posted thanks __________________ LangZi.com PR3, Alexa: 302717 Need a push to Auction! \| StreamPro.com \| StudentDate.com \| StudentDates.com \| ThePhilippines.net \|StudentFlats.com, Alexa traffic: 316,455. Looking for a buyer

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Domain Scam Alert

File a dispute with papal!

I stopped using Paypal a couple years ago !!