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Old 01-29-2008, 08:35 PM   · #1
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Domain Scam Alert

I just got scammed by someone who offered $1500 for 8 of my 4 letter dotcoms, and now i lost 8 domains & no money at all

he made the payment of $1500 to my paypal account, when i first checked it, it seemed perfectly fine, so i pushed the 8 domains to him. An hour later, when i checked my paypal account again, the money was gone as it has been chargeback by paypal claiming that the payment was not authorized.

the scammer uses 2 email addresses:

kevnospam@aol.com
kevdomain@yahoo.com

after some research, someone has found out his real identity being:

Dorobantu Marian
admin@romaniapenet.com
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, 8700
Romania
40+721328329


the 8 4-letter domains I lost are:

HUUQ.COM
KYYR.COM
QUUH.COM
LJCJ.COM
VUEQ.COM
VZFC.COM
WUUQ.COM
UUBD.COM

other people have been scammed by the same scammer
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Old 01-29-2008, 08:41 PM   · #2
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File a dispute with papal!

What a complete Jag!
OK,
You can file a dispute with PayPal,
and they can re-coup the funds from this Jerkoff!
I hope you have e-mails saved on the payment details!
Send PayPal, every bit of info...
I had to do that many times (from my E-bay sales) with people who
have claimed to not have received merchandise.
They will take care of you, just don't give up!
Good Luck, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that!
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OK,
I just went to PayPal's charge back info,
and I see a potential problem...
They state how you will be covered as long as...
you ship tangible goods.
So, I think this may not be covered under PayPal's seller protection.
So, I am not sure about seller protection for domain names.
This is a HUGE issue, since I wanted to start selling some of my domains on E-bay also!
I am giving you the link on chargebacks..

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/w.../ChargebacksFAQ

I really hope this is addressed, and you win!
And this Jag gets executed...or something similar!
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:25 PM   · #3
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PayPal will definitely investigate and spammer's are usually dumb in some way. they will check the payment IP and it will most likely match their complaint IP indicating it was most likely an authorized purchase...but it will take time....

Why don't you use the same tactic on them by contacting your registrar and letting them know there was an unauthorized transfer of your domains........and demanding them to be pushed back into your account.

I think Domains might be considered a tangible item as it has title of ownership attached to it. I too would be interested to find out for sure

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Old 01-29-2008, 09:31 PM   · #4
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request a chargeback and show your conversations and proof of ownership of domain the cancel ownership email you have received from your registrar.
i hope this is just recent event.
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Old 01-29-2008, 09:51 PM   · #5
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Be on the lookout for this asswipe guys.

He made an offer for GFXO.com via email right about the same time he was pulling this sh*t on trendicator.

Fortunately - I told him escrow or sedo only since he wasn't an NP or DNF member... he told me he was OK with sedo, probably hoping to gain my trust and just go with PP, so I sent him a sedo link - never heard back from him.

Paypal is absolutely HORRIBLE with domain scams.

Bad guy wins almost every time.

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Old 01-29-2008, 09:57 PM   · #6
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That really sucks I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:02 PM   · #7
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yeah you can also request an undo from your registrar up to 15 days as wwd/gd resellers can by sending an email to undo@secureserver.net they will require at least 2 valid ids from you, scanned.

i almost forgot this, thanks mellowmasher for reminding.

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That really sucks I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

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Old 01-29-2008, 10:03 PM   · #8
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I assume you have already contacted the registrar. If not do so immediately they can at least hold the domains and ensure they cannot be transferred. They may even given enough proof return the domains to you.
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:04 PM   · #9
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That guy just scammed me too..

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Old 01-29-2008, 10:08 PM   · #10
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So,
You as a seller,
are at the complete utter mercy of PayPal!
This Jerkoff, disputed the charge with his credit card company???
Well, Let's hope that a domain name....
Is a tangible item!
So, you have PayPal seller protection!
Do us all a favor, and don't give up!!!
This could be the start of a Huge Scam, that scares me!
The only quick method (from person to person) is PayPal,
unless you have an established site rolling, and are set-up to take credit cards.
Please as you get more and more info, on this Prick, and as your situation unfolds...please keep us up-dated.
Everything I want to do as a seller, would be with PayPal!
Well, I think everyone feels your pain,
and everyone will be rooting for you!
keep us posted,
I want to see this discussion on the first page...
until it get's resolved!
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Old 01-29-2008, 10:12 PM   · #11
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I sent email to undo@secureserver.net and waiting reply..

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Old 01-29-2008, 10:24 PM   · #12
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done this already, they will refer you to your registrar.

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Another forum's member just reported that he sold ccc.com to this guy today .. no Paypal dispute yet..
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Did some digging, heres what I found so far:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491

A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com

PayMass.com is owned by:

Whois Record

Registrant:
Dorobantu Marian
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, Constanta 8700
Romania

Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov..

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name...-name-ebay.html

Looks to be the same guy.
I gotta go to bed, so maybe someone else can take it further and find out more info?

Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least
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Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.
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Thanks for your help Herb

Another member reported that guy contacted him as well.

He is being very active today..


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Did some digging, heres what I found so far:

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Not sure if it's their real name or not - it'd sure be a fun project to dev if it is.
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Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.



He may be using more than one account. As I was reading this thread the sound notice went off notifying me of a new email - a paypal fishing scam...

Paypal is such a source of fraud in what we do.
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else...http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr

Its not really helpful, but notice the r1gsxr username and the person's name is Marian Dorobantu.. I dont think there is any doubt that this guy is the one behind these scams...

Now it's our job to make him sorry
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