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trendicator · 01-29-2008, 09:35 PM

I just got scammed by someone who offered $1500 for 8 of my 4 letter dotcoms, and now i lost 8 domains & no money at all

he made the payment of $1500 to my paypal account, when i first checked it, it seemed perfectly fine, so i pushed the 8 domains to him. An hour later, when i checked my paypal account again, the money was gone as it has been chargeback by paypal claiming that the payment was not authorized.

the scammer uses 2 email addresses:

kevnospam@aol.com
kevdomain@yahoo.com

after some research, someone has found out his real identity being:

Dorobantu Marian
admin@romaniapenet.com
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, 8700
Romania
40+721328329

the 8 4-letter domains I lost are:

HUUQ.COM
KYYR.COM
QUUH.COM
LJCJ.COM
VUEQ.COM
VZFC.COM
WUUQ.COM
UUBD.COM

other people have been scammed by the same scammer
so Domainers be aware...

Red Rock · 01-29-2008, 09:41 PM

What a complete Jag!
OK,
You can file a dispute with PayPal,
and they can re-coup the funds from this Jerkoff!
I hope you have e-mails saved on the payment details!
Send PayPal, every bit of info...
I had to do that many times (from my E-bay sales) with people who
have claimed to not have received merchandise.
They will take care of you, just don't give up!
Good Luck, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that!
Red Rock!

OK,
I just went to PayPal's charge back info,
and I see a potential problem...
They state how you will be covered as long as...
you ship tangible goods.
So, I think this may not be covered under PayPal's seller protection.
So, I am not sure about seller protection for domain names.
This is a HUGE issue, since I wanted to start selling some of my domains on E-bay also!
I am giving you the link on chargebacks..

https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ChargebacksFAQ

I really hope this is addressed, and you win!
And this Jag gets executed...or something similar!
Good Luck,
Red Rock!

biohammer · 01-29-2008, 10:25 PM

PayPal will definitely investigate and spammer's are usually dumb in some way. they will check the payment IP and it will most likely match their complaint IP indicating it was most likely an authorized purchase...but it will take time....

Why don't you use the same tactic on them by contacting your registrar and letting them know there was an unauthorized transfer of your domains........and demanding them to be pushed back into your account.

I think Domains might be considered a tangible item as it has title of ownership attached to it. I too would be interested to find out for sure

weblord · 01-29-2008, 10:31 PM

request a chargeback and show your conversations and proof of ownership of domain the cancel ownership email you have received from your registrar.
i hope this is just recent event.

Don · 01-29-2008, 10:51 PM

Be on the lookout for this asswipe guys.

He made an offer for GFXO.com via email right about the same time he was pulling this sh*t on trendicator.

Fortunately - I told him escrow or sedo only since he wasn't an NP or DNF member... he told me he was OK with sedo, probably hoping to gain my trust and just go with PP, so I sent him a sedo link - never heard back from him.

Paypal is absolutely HORRIBLE with domain scams.

Bad guy wins almost every time.

Wish you the best Trendicator.

**mellowmasher** · 01-29-2008, 10:57 PM

That really sucks

I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

weblord · 01-29-2008, 11:02 PM

yeah you can also request an undo from your registrar up to 15 days as wwd/gd resellers can by sending an email to undo@secureserver.net they will require at least 2 valid ids from you, scanned.

i almost forgot this, thanks mellowmasher for reminding.

Originally Posted by mellowmasher

That really sucks

I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you..

Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push??

Peter · 01-29-2008, 11:03 PM

I assume you have already contacted the registrar. If not do so immediately they can at least hold the domains and ensure they cannot be transferred. They may even given enough proof return the domains to you.

EG.domains · 01-29-2008, 11:04 PM

That guy just scammed me too..

His YM email : r1gsxr@yahoo.com
His Paypal : iggymorris@gmail.com
His Paypal Name : James Morris

Red Rock · 01-29-2008, 11:08 PM

So,
You as a seller,
are at the complete utter mercy of PayPal!
This Jerkoff, disputed the charge with his credit card company???
Well, Let's hope that a domain name....
Is a tangible item!
So, you have PayPal seller protection!
Do us all a favor, and don't give up!!!
This could be the start of a Huge Scam, that scares me!
The only quick method (from person to person) is PayPal,
unless you have an established site rolling, and are set-up to take credit cards.
Please as you get more and more info, on this Prick, and as your situation unfolds...please keep us up-dated.
Everything I want to do as a seller, would be with PayPal!
Well, I think everyone feels your pain,
and everyone will be rooting for you!
keep us posted,
I want to see this discussion on the first page...
until it get's resolved!
Take Care,
Red Rock!

EG.domains · 01-29-2008, 11:12 PM

I sent email to undo@secureserver.net and waiting reply..

Not willing to give UP.

domainco.us · 01-29-2008, 11:24 PM

Thanks for the heads up

**mellowmasher** · 01-29-2008, 11:31 PM

Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also

weblord · 01-29-2008, 11:36 PM

done this already, they will refer you to your registrar.

Originally Posted by mellowmasher

Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also

EG.domains · 01-29-2008, 11:58 PM

Another forum's member just reported that he sold ccc.com to this guy today .. no Paypal dispute yet..

Ronald Regging · 01-30-2008, 12:02 AM

Did some digging, heres what I found so far:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491

A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com

PayMass.com is owned by:

Whois Record

Registrant:
Dorobantu Marian
bd tomis nr 68
Constanta, Constanta 8700
Romania

Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov..

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...name-ebay.html

Looks to be the same guy.
I gotta go to bed, so maybe someone else can take it further and find out more info?

Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least

duceman · 01-30-2008, 12:04 AM

Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

EG.domains · 01-30-2008, 12:10 AM

Thanks for your help Herb

Another member reported that guy contacted him as well.

He is being very active today..

Originally Posted by Ronald Regging

Did some digging, heres what I found so far:

.........

Don · 01-30-2008, 12:34 AM

DOROBANTUMARIAN.COM - is available.

Not sure if it's their real name or not - it'd sure be a fun project to dev if it is.

whitebark · 01-30-2008, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by duceman

Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

He may be using more than one account. As I was reading this thread the sound notice went off notifying me of a new email - a paypal fishing scam...

Paypal is such a source of fraud in what we do.

Ronald Regging · 01-30-2008, 12:58 AM

Just found something
else...http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr

Its not really helpful, but notice the r1gsxr username and the person's name is Marian Dorobantu.. I dont think there is any doubt that this guy is the one behind these scams...

Now it's our job to make him sorry

Don · 01-30-2008, 01:19 AM

This thread is probably going to get more exposure... might want to move future posts to it...

http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...-namepros.html

Bill · 01-30-2008, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Username Usergroup Email Join Date Last Login Posts
securekev Account Closed securekev@yahoo.com 11-07-2007 01-29-2008 25
securenkvd Account Closed kevnospam@aol.com 11-24-2007 11-24-2007 0
kevnospam Account Closed just_a_imp@yahoo.com 01-29-2008 01-29-2008 0

-Bill

FantasyCombine · 01-30-2008, 03:27 AM

Ever since Ebay bought Paypal, this has been a major problem with any merchandise.

That is why Google Checkout, Bidpay, and ProPay were invented. Uses Credit Cards and can be disputed like any other transaction.

trendicator · 01-30-2008, 04:17 AM

thanks for the reply guys.

on paypal, his name is Brad Farmer, and i doubt it's his real name, but apparently his paypal account is verified.

i just hope paypal would sort it out and will keep you guys posted

thanks

01-29-2008, 09:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
trendicator Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,047 10.85 NP$ (Donate)	Domain Scam Alert I just got scammed by someone who offered $1500 for 8 of my 4 letter dotcoms, and now i lost 8 domains & no money at all he made the payment of $1500 to my paypal account, when i first checked it, it seemed perfectly fine, so i pushed the 8 domains to him. An hour later, when i checked my paypal account again, the money was gone as it has been chargeback by paypal claiming that the payment was not authorized. the scammer uses 2 email addresses: kevnospam@aol.com kevdomain@yahoo.com after some research, someone has found out his real identity being: Dorobantu Marian admin@romaniapenet.com bd tomis nr 68 Constanta, 8700 Romania 40+721328329 the 8 4-letter domains I lost are: HUUQ.COM KYYR.COM QUUH.COM LJCJ.COM VUEQ.COM VZFC.COM WUUQ.COM UUBD.COM other people have been scammed by the same scammer so Domainers be aware... __________________ Tube names for sale, TouchTube.com, WapTube.com, JobsTube.com, UzbekTube... Last edited by trendicator; 01-30-2008 at 06:49 PM.

01-29-2008, 09:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
Red Rock Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 999 280.00 NP$ (Donate)	File a dispute with papal! What a complete Jag! OK, You can file a dispute with PayPal, and they can re-coup the funds from this Jerkoff! I hope you have e-mails saved on the payment details! Send PayPal, every bit of info... I had to do that many times (from my E-bay sales) with people who have claimed to not have received merchandise. They will take care of you, just don't give up! Good Luck, and I'm terribly sorry to hear that! Red Rock! OK, I just went to PayPal's charge back info, and I see a potential problem... They state how you will be covered as long as... you ship tangible goods. So, I think this may not be covered under PayPal's seller protection. So, I am not sure about seller protection for domain names. This is a HUGE issue, since I wanted to start selling some of my domains on E-bay also! I am giving you the link on chargebacks.. https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/we...ChargebacksFAQ I really hope this is addressed, and you win! And this Jag gets executed...or something similar! Good Luck, Red Rock! Last edited by Red Rock; 01-29-2008 at 09:56 PM.

01-29-2008, 10:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
biohammer NamePros Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Santa Fe, NM Posts: 159 156.25 NP$ (Donate)	PayPal will definitely investigate and spammer's are usually dumb in some way. they will check the payment IP and it will most likely match their complaint IP indicating it was most likely an authorized purchase...but it will take time.... Why don't you use the same tactic on them by contacting your registrar and letting them know there was an unauthorized transfer of your domains........and demanding them to be pushed back into your account. I think Domains might be considered a tangible item as it has title of ownership attached to it. I too would be interested to find out for sure Last edited by biohammer; 01-29-2008 at 10:28 PM. Reason: 1

01-29-2008, 10:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator NamePros Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 978 540.97 NP$ (Donate)	Be on the lookout for this asswipe guys. He made an offer for GFXO.com via email right about the same time he was pulling this sh*t on trendicator. Fortunately - I told him escrow or sedo only since he wasn't an NP or DNF member... he told me he was OK with sedo, probably hoping to gain my trust and just go with PP, so I sent him a sedo link - never heard back from him. Paypal is absolutely HORRIBLE with domain scams. Bad guy wins almost every time. Wish you the best Trendicator. __________________ ` ... .

01-29-2008, 10:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
mellowmasher mellowmasher.com Team Leader Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 13,634 126.03 NP$ (Donate)	That really sucks I have made a note of these names and will keep an eye out for you.. Is it too late to go back to your registra, tell them what happened and see if you cant dispute the push?? __________________ I RECOMMEND HIVE DESIGNS FOR HIGH QUALITY WEB DESIGNS

01-29-2008, 10:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
weblord NamePros Legend Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philippines - www.Nabaza.com Posts: 19,836 21,700.43 NP$ (Donate)	request a chargeback and show your conversations and proof of ownership of domain the cancel ownership email you have received from your registrar. i hope this is just recent event.

01-29-2008, 11:03 PM	#8 (permalink)
Peter Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,967 116.10 NP$ (Donate)	I assume you have already contacted the registrar. If not do so immediately they can at least hold the domains and ensure they cannot be transferred. They may even given enough proof return the domains to you. __________________ Manage your portfolio using my new Domain Portfolio Management script. Securing Your Domain Name From Theft

01-29-2008, 11:04 PM	#9 (permalink)
EG.domains GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,732 1,483.17 NP$ (Donate)	That guy just scammed me too.. His YM email : r1gsxr@yahoo.com His Paypal : iggymorris@gmail.com His Paypal Name : James Morris __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale! Last edited by EG.domains; 02-01-2008 at 10:02 PM.

01-29-2008, 11:08 PM	#10 (permalink)
Red Rock Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chicago Posts: 999 280.00 NP$ (Donate)	So, You as a seller, are at the complete utter mercy of PayPal! This Jerkoff, disputed the charge with his credit card company??? Well, Let's hope that a domain name.... Is a tangible item! So, you have PayPal seller protection! Do us all a favor, and don't give up!!! This could be the start of a Huge Scam, that scares me! The only quick method (from person to person) is PayPal, unless you have an established site rolling, and are set-up to take credit cards. Please as you get more and more info, on this Prick, and as your situation unfolds...please keep us up-dated. Everything I want to do as a seller, would be with PayPal! Well, I think everyone feels your pain, and everyone will be rooting for you! keep us posted, I want to see this discussion on the first page... until it get's resolved! Take Care, Red Rock!

01-29-2008, 11:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
EG.domains GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,732 1,483.17 NP$ (Donate)	I sent email to undo@secureserver.net and waiting reply.. Not willing to give UP. __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale!

01-29-2008, 11:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
domainco.us NamePros Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 151 130.55 NP$ (Donate)	Thanks for the heads up __________________ Fix the Lotto Xn3cTs Domain Portfolio Prescriptionline!

01-29-2008, 11:31 PM	#13 (permalink)
mellowmasher mellowmasher.com Team Leader Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: UK Posts: 13,634 126.03 NP$ (Donate)	Parked at sedo so maybe worth letting them know also __________________ I RECOMMEND HIVE DESIGNS FOR HIGH QUALITY WEB DESIGNS

01-29-2008, 11:58 PM	#15 (permalink)
EG.domains GenericDomainMarket.com Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,732 1,483.17 NP$ (Donate)	Another forum's member just reported that he sold ccc.com to this guy today .. no Paypal dispute yet.. __________________ ► Generic & Premium Domains for sale!

01-30-2008, 12:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
Ronald Regging Ex-President Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mount Joy, PA Posts: 2,627 100.00 NP$ (Donate)	Did some digging, heres what I found so far: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=606491 A post on DP by a user named Kevnospam (banned), asking for an appraisal for the domain PayMass.com PayMass.com is owned by: Whois Record Registrant: Dorobantu Marian bd tomis nr 68 Constanta, Constanta 8700 Romania Did a bit more digging for this name and found another related scam thread on NP from Nov.. http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...name-ebay.html Looks to be the same guy. I gotta go to bed, so maybe someone else can take it further and find out more info? Wibrodomains helped get the domains back for the person in the above thread, so I have asked him if he can check out this thread and maybe shed some light. Worth a shot at least __________________ Dot Comikaze! GoDaddy Coupons - Get coupons for domain registrations and renewals. Last edited by Ronald Regging; 01-30-2008 at 12:13 AM.

01-30-2008, 12:04 AM	#17 (permalink)
duceman Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Indy Posts: 2,261 2,317.60 NP$ (Donate)	Why would PP allow someone to have this many chargebacks in such a short time?? It should be obvious that he is scamming.

01-30-2008, 12:34 AM	#19 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator NamePros Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 978 540.97 NP$ (Donate)	DOROBANTUMARIAN.COM - is available. Not sure if it's their real name or not - it'd sure be a fun project to dev if it is. __________________ ` ... .

01-30-2008, 12:58 AM	#21 (permalink)
Ronald Regging Ex-President Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mount Joy, PA Posts: 2,627 100.00 NP$ (Donate)	Just found something else...http://digg.com/users/r1gsxr Its not really helpful, but notice the r1gsxr username and the person's name is Marian Dorobantu.. I dont think there is any doubt that this guy is the one behind these scams... Now it's our job to make him sorry __________________ Dot Comikaze! GoDaddy Coupons - Get coupons for domain registrations and renewals.

01-30-2008, 01:19 AM	#22 (permalink)
Don Live Chat Operator NamePros Chat Operator Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NY Posts: 978 540.97 NP$ (Donate)	This thread is probably going to get more exposure... might want to move future posts to it... http://www.namepros.com/domain-name-...-namepros.html __________________ ` ... .

01-30-2008, 03:27 AM	#24 (permalink)
FantasyCombine FantasyCombine.com Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,486 930.50 NP$ (Donate)	I stopped using Paypal a couple years ago !! Ever since Ebay bought Paypal, this has been a major problem with any merchandise. That is why Google Checkout, Bidpay, and ProPay were invented. Uses Credit Cards and can be disputed like any other transaction.

01-30-2008, 04:17 AM	#25 (permalink)
trendicator Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,047 10.85 NP$ (Donate)	thanks for the reply guys. on paypal, his name is Brad Farmer, and i doubt it's his real name, but apparently his paypal account is verified. i just hope paypal would sort it out and will keep you guys posted thanks __________________ Tube names for sale, TouchTube.com, WapTube.com, JobsTube.com, UzbekTube...

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