The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

[italiandragon]

Hello, I think it would be pretty useful to keep track of all LLLL.com sales , even the little ones under $100 so that , pretty soon , when the available LLLL.com will be finished , we`ll have a better idea on market prices.

It is important that these sales are confirmed. So before to post, make sure payment went OK.

I will start with todays` Sedo confirmed sales:

FISE.com 2,700 Euros
TSRT.com US $760
VEUP.com US $1,700


Also, I found interesting to see this average LLLL, getting bids up to $51 and reserve not me. It says it all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110154111735_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

 

[Soofi]

I have an inquiry/offer for quad LLLL,com pending.. there are 2 decent end users for the .com that I own since its registered in .net & .org ext..

I received a funny email inquiry from the .org owner seeking to buy the domain and he said he doesnt have enough money. Wwhen I asked him to make an offer, he said he can pay mid $xxx, I countered him with 3 times but he said he doesnt have that much and he isnt bs'ing me.. I find it funny cuz most end-users play that "NO-DOUGH game" with you but lets see how it goes as I lowered my asking price a lil' for him, so he responded saying "fair price, let me talk to my bank and get some credit to buy the domain" :lol:

 

[Semtex]

I still find it funny that endusers come knocking on your door offering $20-$50 for a really nice name. And when you counter with $XXXX, they are instantly pissed off and respond with, "you only paid $10 for it anyways". Maybe when domaining is mainstream 10 years from now, endusers won't act like such dipshits.

 

[ianmcd]

Average sale prices on eBay for May were up against April's average. This is the third consecutive monthly rise, and May's average was the best on eBay since February 2009. Here's an analysis of trends over the past 12 months. As always, I've excluded domains selling for more than $100 as I consider them outliers on eBay. All averages below are based on trendlines calculated from weekly figures, so smoothing out irregularities.

Over the past 12 months mean prices rose at an average rate of about $0.72 a month, a total of $8.66 over the period. The trend showed a rise from $9.00 to $17.67, which is a rise of 65% based on the midpoint.

Over the past 9 months mean prices rose at an average rate of about $0.46 a month.

Over the past 6 months mean prices rose at an average rate of about $0.20 a month.

Over the past 3 months mean prices rose at an average rate of about $1.64 a month.

Monthly means were -

June $8.57
July $8.61
August $9.09
September $11.98
October $10.59
November $18.03
December $18.12
January $13.91
February $12.03
March $13.40
April $15.75
May $18.68

Average remaining registration rose slightly over the 12-month period. This rise deducts about 6 cents from the monthly price rise, bringing the effective price rise down to about $0.66 a month.

Average domain quality also rose over the 12-month period. This rise deducts about 11 cents from the monthly price rise, bringing the effective price rise down to about $0.55 a month.

Monthly sales volume has continued to fall. Only 133 domains were sold during May. This compares with a monthly average of 388 domains a month for the preceding 11 months.

 

[fastadam]

Just closed a nice transaction (escrow is processing my payment, buyer has accepted the domains).

Although I can't reveal the domain name due to my business policy, it is a double premium pronounceable CVCC type domain beginning with the letter Q... and it sold for $10,000.

Keep the faith short domainers...

 

[Soofi]

Just closed a nice transaction (escrow is processing my payment, buyer has accepted the domains).

Although I can't reveal the domain name due to my business policy, it is a double premium pronounceable CVCC type domain beginning with the letter Q... and it sold for $10,000.

Keep the faith short domainers...

congratulations :D

well now you can bring your NP$ balance to positive cuz it shows NP$ -200 :P :lol:

 

[gladdy]

hubz(.)com
$995
nj

 

[Semtex]

Did they contact you, and you countered ?

Just closed a nice transaction (escrow is processing my payment, buyer has accepted the domains).

Although I can't reveal the domain name due to my business policy, it is a double premium pronounceable CVCC type domain beginning with the letter Q... and it sold for $10,000.

Keep the faith short domainers...

 

[mibworld]

Wow! Congratulations. The difficult part is to have the ... courage to set a price that high for that kind of domain. Unless you knew who the potential buyer was beforhand...

Just closed a nice transaction (escrow is processing my payment, buyer has accepted the domains).

Although I can't reveal the domain name due to my business policy, it is a double premium pronounceable CVCC type domain beginning with the letter Q... and it sold for $10,000.

Keep the faith short domainers...

 

[Soofi]

Wow! Congratulations. The difficult part is to have the ... courage to set a price that high for that kind of domain. Unless you knew who the potential buyer was beforhand...

cant agree anymore on this one

 

[Soofi]

I have an inquiry/offer for quad LLLL,com pending.. there are 2 decent end users for the .com that I own since its registered in .net & .org ext..

I received a funny email inquiry from the .org owner seeking to buy the domain and he said he doesnt have enough money. Wwhen I asked him to make an offer, he said he can pay mid $xxx, I countered him with 3 times but he said he doesnt have that much and he isnt bs'ing me.. I find it funny cuz most end-users play that "NO-DOUGH game" with you but lets see how it goes as I lowered my asking price a lil' for him, so he responded saying "fair price, let me talk to my bank and get some credit to buy the domain" :lol:

Completed sale, payment recd. of $630 for wfku,com today
end user runs an online radio station at .org!!

 

[Sameh]

Completed sale, payment recd. of $630 for wfku,com today
end user runs an online radio station at .org!!

Congrats Jay .. Nice sale.


Sameh

 

[SlimPickins]

congrats Jay!! but you wound up coming down to his previous max of mid XXX rather than holding out for him to put the squeeze on his bank for some credit like he intended? a great sale nonetheless!

did you hit him up for some free radio advertising in trade for the lower price :music: :bah: ? congrats on the sale! sp

 

[fastadam]

Did they contact you, and you countered ?

Yes. They contacted me, hinted at a low $X,XXX offer and I walked away. I had a solid development plan for the domain and had already said no at an earlier time. A few weeks later, I emailed them with a non-negotiable limited time offer for $10K. They came back with a mid $X,XXX offer and I reiterated the "non-negotiable" part and canceled negotiations. One day later they emailed me, ready to play ball.

Wow! Congratulations. The difficult part is to have the ... courage to set a price that high for that kind of domain. Unless you knew who the potential buyer was beforhand...

Although I knew who the buyer was (we were in direct email contact) I did not know what (or whom) they were making the purchase for during the negotiations. Actually, the enduser that I presumed would benefit the most from purchasing it didn't end up with it...

I think there are two major points that should be made regarding this sale.

1) I had a solid development plan that I could outline to the buyer... this has also helped me achieve a much higher ROI on sales in the past as well.

2) I had "my price" and I was willing to walk away, or to establish terms that were "take it or leave it." Of course this is not a negotiating tactic that will bring all buyers to the table, but if there is a legitimate case to be made for future profits based upon further development, and you can explain the all too real costs involved to "re-brand" a project midstream, then it is not difficult to lay the groundwork in order to ask for a higher price.

In order to sell anything, the "value" needs to be made explicitly clear to the buyer. They need to see the "cost" as an "opportunity". If this can be done with little to no explanation on the part of the seller, so be it... but often it takes a bit more work.

 

[Soofi]

Congrats Jay .. Nice sale.


Sameh

Thanks Sameh, appreciate your word of support!! :tu:

---------- Post added at 05:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 PM ----------

congrats Jay!! but you wound up coming down to his previous max of mid XXX rather than holding out for him to put the squeeze on his bank for some credit like he intended? a great sale nonetheless!

did you hit him up for some free radio advertising in trade for the lower price :music: :bah: ? congrats on the sale! sp

SP, thanks for the word bro..

I could've have held it up for more, however, he sounded like a genuine buyer when he offered $500 initially and pleaded and said he doesnt have enough money to even continue his entrepreneurial efforts with Online Radio Show on wfku,org (as and when I countered him with $1500 asking price) as he gets paid pennies working a government job.. so I considered lowering it for him to $1k and he was glad to pay that amount by taking a line of credit from his bank, but that would take days cuz of bank formalities. so I thought few extra bucks wont make me rich enough and will help his entrepreneurial effort with need of branding and I closed it at $600 and $30 on top of it for paypal fee :lol:

Considering the fact that I had acquired it for few bucks (probably $1 or $2, dont remember really), it is a great ROI :D

And the domain is already redirecting to his site!!


---------- Post added at 05:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:01 PM ----------

Yes. They contacted me, hinted at a low $X,XXX offer and I walked away. I had a solid development plan for the domain and had already said no at an earlier time. A few weeks later, I emailed them with a non-negotiable limited time offer for $10K. They came back with a mid $X,XXX offer and I reiterated the "non-negotiable" part and canceled negotiations. One day later they emailed me, ready to play ball.



Although I knew who the buyer was (we were in direct email contact) I did not know what (or whom) they were making the purchase for during the negotiations. Actually, the enduser that I presumed would benefit the most from purchasing it didn't end up with it...

I think there are two major points that should be made regarding this sale.

1) I had a solid development plan that I could outline to the buyer... this has also helped me achieve a much higher ROI on sales in the past as well.

2) I had "my price" and I was willing to walk away, or to establish terms that were "take it or leave it." Of course this is not a negotiating tactic that will bring all buyers to the table, but if there is a legitimate case to be made for future profits based upon further development, and you can explain the all too real costs involved to "re-brand" a project midstream, then it is not difficult to lay the groundwork in order to ask for a higher price.

In order to sell anything, the "value" needs to be made explicitly clear to the buyer. They need to see the "cost" as an "opportunity". If this can be done with little to no explanation on the part of the seller, so be it... but often it takes a bit more work.

Fast+Adam, I think you covered it very well and said it all in your post. Congratulations once again on hitting the pot wit your jack!

Cheers, repd+

 

[glabnet]

Is available now: Xzfv.com

 

[gladdy]

some namejet latest sales:

idel(.)com
$2,100

elst(.)com
$999

hubz(.)com
$995

bisn(.)com
$565

 

[DomainTalker]

Completed sale, payment recd. of $630 for wfku,com today
end user runs an online radio station at .org!!

Nice work, Jay...

In order to sell anything, the "value" needs to be made explicitly clear to the buyer. They need to see the "cost" as an "opportunity". If this can be done with little to no explanation on the part of the seller, so be it... but often it takes a bit more work.

This is the key point. Well said.


The more we know about the potential buyer, the more easily we can explain to them the real value & benefit their business may derive from a certain domain....And, the more we can credibly demonstrate to them that whatever they invest in this good/appropriate domain will pay off for them with a good ROI, the more a buyer will see the 'cost' as an 'investment' in their business, and as an opportunity. And, therefore, be able to justify the (higher) price to themselves - and others in their organisation.


But its not always easy.

We often don't know who the potential buyer is. They approach us anonymously. This means that we can only talk generally to them about the merits of the domain - ie general search stats, potential power of the domain, brandability, possible uses for it etc etc. Its harder to make the case that such-and-such a price is therefore a reasonable investment for them.


Anyway, good sale, fastadam.

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[SlimPickins]

great sale fastadam and, like others have already said, well played in regards to holding to your price, knowing who your potential buyer is and being able to "educate" them about the merits of investing in it at that price and also being able to layout a viable and pending development plan to put some heat on the "soon or never" issue! If only the ducks could line up so easily every time, like domaintalker pointed out, ie THEY contact you first, you are able to ascertain WHO they are/what they intend to use the domain for, know that there are multiple good prospects for the domain, HAVE a realistic earning development plan for it (as opposed to just some random acronym destined to remain a 1-page lander) AND are in a financial position to stick to your expected eventual sale price rather than sell for a lower but still good ROI earlier..... it seems that, at best, all but 1 duck has taken position for me in sales so far! Congrats! D.

 

[mrv]

I'm not entirely sure if I'm in the right thread, but what would one pay for a pronounceable CCVV.com (net/org/info/biz could also be sold together)? It has a meaning (though we don't use it in everyday life), it's used in medical terminology in other forms and it's contained in the Bible in its original english form. Could easily be a brand name.

Any estimates?

 

[sidekick_33]

I'm not entirely sure if I'm in the right thread, but what would one pay for a pronounceable CCVV.com (net/org/info/biz could also be sold together)? It has a meaning (though we don't use it in everyday life), it's used in medical terminology in other forms and it's contained in the Bible in its original english form. Could easily be a brand name.

Any estimates?

Check LLLLsales.com to see if there are any similar domains that have sold to give you an idea. It's too hard to give you an estimate without knowing any more details. I think almost everyone in this thread can agree that we've moved away from the 'minimum' price model that occured during buyouts (I'm talking about price guides, etc...) to a model that is based more on letter quality and usability. Sorry I can't help, but you should be able to find some info on that site!

 

[mrv]

Check LLLLsales.com to see if there are any similar domains that have sold to give you an idea. It's too hard to give you an estimate without knowing any more details. I think almost everyone in this thread can agree that we've moved away from the 'minimum' price model that occured during buyouts (I'm talking about price guides, etc...) to a model that is based more on letter quality and usability. Sorry I can't help, but you should be able to find some info on that site!

Thank you for your answer.

I see that last year, a CCVV.com with the same VV sold for $6.000. I'm not sure how to check the letter quality though.

 

[Soofi]

Nice work, Jay...

Cheers DT!! :tu:

 

[Semtex]

The past week on Namejet:

amjo $313
glfo $99
nhff $92
bcga $261
tfem $112
ferr $454
xank $310
plro $100
hubz $995
ckit $301
mobz $1,210
ecfd $119
ibsm $501
wggf $80
ibpt $212
gbft $112
iaeo $119
inrm $149
tsbt $130
smnx $500
nnid $150
asnf $249
afgr $160
brth $210
agcs $1,788
achi $1,358
afrc $1,009
gfcd $139

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[TexasDomainer]

NTBN.com : Not-To-Be-Named

Bought for $110

 

[UrbanCowboy]

NTBN.com : Not-To-Be-Named

Bought for $110

Nice buy. Easy to remember, strong premium letters with double N's.