discuss XR domains - Umbrella term for AR VR MR (all reality technologies)

[Elad n]

XR can be X Reality or Extended Reality.

Either way it describes the spectrum just like mixed reality.

Been looking around and shopping for a while now, saw many companies choosing to rebrand to xr or just starting with xr in their names..

Those are only some of my findings that are already developed (there are many more undeveloped by major companies like unity/sony etc..)

Decide for yourself.

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xr-room.com

xrgames.io

hyperspacexr.com

innereyexr.com

biomexr.com

inspacexr.com

HumanXR.com

agencyxr.com

ascentxr.com

womenxr.com

conductxr.com

Xiality.com

FeelXRstudio.com

ShowroomXR.com

FitXR.com

XRconnects.com

orchardxr.com

 

[NameFu]

Sure, but the only difference is at $3,500 this is one of Apple's most expensive products ever, many students/working class people have an iPhone at around $1000, but they have to get it contract/finance. With this, who can afford it? You'd have to say upper middle/upper class people only and even then how many are going to do that?

I'm going to be honest, after a lot of research last night (about 3 hours) i did under estimate the threat of spatial to everybodies VR/AR/XR investments, you log into Netflix and you see 'Spatial Audio' so something may be in it more than any other term in the past, but if it doesn't catch-on don't be surprised to see Apple switch back quickly, Magic Leap did this (they promoted spatial computing) and so have other major companies who have tried to be different (Intel etc).

I still can't see it sticking universally or companies branding around it, but the main concern is their app submittion guidelines which i've highlighted in red:-

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I think this is targeting Meta (Facebook) and their whole metaverse ambition more than anything with VR/AR being a big part of that, so will be interesting to see how they and other major companies react who have spent a lot of money in immersive tech.

People purchase things they can't afford every day, because of credit and payment plans. "Affordability" today has more to do with how much a person can pay monthly and how long a person is willing to pay for a product, on a monthly plan - not how much the total price is.

It's completely normal for people to upgrade their iPhones before finishing their payment plan - through a trade-in program or selling them online. So it's a cycle of payments plans and temporary ownership.

A $3,500 iPhone like headset from Apple will be treated EXACTLY the same way.

 

[NameFu]

People purchase things they can't afford every day that they need, ie:- such as phone/car/TV/roof over head.

It remains to be seen if Apple Pro is a device that people ‘need’ or novelty, if its novelty, people on a large scale are not going to go into debt for it.

You don't understand consumer culture.

No one NEEDS a $1500 phone or a $700 snartwatch or a $3,000 TV but working class people with 9 to 5 jobs are the overwhelming majority of the people buying these things. It's possible because of payment plans and reselling to upgrade. The Vision Pro and it's less expensive versions in the future will be no different.

 

[Robert27]

Augmented World Expo Pivots To XR​

“AWE began in 2010 with an initial emphasis on Augmented Reality. However, over the years, its focus and message have evolved. While covering all three virtual reality disciplines, this year's show took a more balanced approach and made the term XR or extended reality its primary focus. One noticeable difference between last fall's AWE is that it was heavy with talk and sessions on the Metaverse. At this year's show, hardly anyone even mentioned the Metaverse.”

Thanks for the info, I have XRb2b//net which seems to fit.
And XRfreelancers// com

 

[Broth Investing]

Not directly related but also hold VROU.org

 

[Wealth355]

Xrpanda
Xrfund
Xrmoon
Esportsxr
All in .xyz

 

[NameFu]

alright, we'll see.

$3.5k is really high, as it is no car, motor-bike, e-bike
- but a headset.

buying an e-bike (...) on credit is different.


You are right: in its field, AR/VR headset, it may become industry leader.

In its own niche.


That our domains sell, is relying on broad mass adoption:
And here I am more on side of smart-glasses, than anything else.


I don't think I am a big believer in headsets any more... to be honest.


Keep it up.

When you say "$3.5k is really high, as it is no car, motor-bike, e-bike- but a headset." that's already the kind of dialog about smartphones that cost over $1k - especially in countries with a lower currency exchange rate like India. Millions around the world don't make $3.5k a year.

But has that stopped the success of gaming PCs that cost $5k or wide screen TVs that cost $3k?

Apple invests a lot of research into their pricing before shipping out a product. And they are only manufacturing less than 150k units for its launch. This will be enough for the to get an idea of what needs to be improved and to see the pubkic's response.

It could be a viral phenomenon on social media, with people talking about how "magical" its controllerless interface is, beginning the same kind of hype cycle we saw with the iPod and iPhone.

Only time will tell. But what's certainly going to happen is that industries of start ups are watching very closely. Many will probably want domains that reflect the industry if this thing takes off! XR and Spatial Computing related domains.

Fingers crossed!

 

[sg08]

XRvatar.com
XRchalet.com

 

[Robert27]

BreakingNewsXR.com

 

[NameFu]

Will you replace your smart-phone, which you can truly carry around,

with a thick headset?!


For sure not.


1) $3.5k is quite much.
- In addition to your maybe expensive smart-phone.

2) Wear it outside?
Yeah, maybe on one spot.
But its def. not a wearable, like real glasses, smart-watch/ phone, other gadgets like ai pin etc.
So, its outdoor activity is totally limited to a safe haven (no action).

3) I stay with my prediction:
Only affordable & easy-to-wear (light) smart-glasses will bring the wide mainstream success we need, for a broad adoption.


This one headset is a clunky but performant device for your home / office / spot.


Not comparable with the success of the iPhone / smart-phone revolution;
more a gimmick for few wealthy chosen ones.

And again, you keep mentioning "affordable". People purchase things they can't afford every day. It's called credit and payment plans. Affordability today has more to do with how much a person can pay monthly and how long a person is willing to pay for a product, on a monthly plan - not how much the total price is.

 

[NameFu]

Yep, but make the calculation:

With a headset, I get a (quiet) clunky device,
that does not add anything productive to my workflow, unless I am professional designer for big machines/ cars.

I can do all the work I need to get done on a laptop / PC.

I can really use an e-bike to have fun, or go to work.

I won't however ever buy a TV for close $3.5k; more like $1k.


A headset does not give me anything additional, besides the 'experience' (= luxury with high price tag).


But I truly need my PC, to get work done.

That's a whole difference (and a very good PC just costs half the price).


That's why, headsets are a bit suspicious to me. -

Other than smart-glasses / watches / phones - anything you may wear outside, and which is quite affordable.


To me, this headset stuff will stay a niche, until it won't get out into the real world as glasses, combined with practical AI features like ai pin or rabbit r1.


But lets cross fingers that the development in the next 2 years happens faster than the last 5,
and we are served hopefully ; )


Thus AR/VR/MR/XR will have to wait so long...

You've repeated about what you think personally and what you would do personally. If you're judging the value of an niche or product based on your personal perspective, you neither understand how economics or domaining works.

 

[Robert27]

XR can be X Reality or Extended Reality.

XR and bling - both getting some traction.

xrbling (.) xyx
xrbling (.) org

 

[Thecryptoinvestor]

Appleverse.io

 

[NameFu]

People do need a phone, it's become a necessity in life so people want the best and will go into debt for that, same as a car (getting from A to B) and TV is a necessity in every home (entertainment), so again people want the best in that and will go into debt and same with homes, people want the best quality of life for themselves and families so will go into huge amounts of debt for that.

Right now a VR/AR device is not a necessity and unless it becomes a necessity, students and working class people on a large scale (like they do with phones) will not go into debt to own one, if it was $1000 I would say yes they would, but as of today, average Joe’s in the masses will not go into $3500 debt for a VR/AR device.

As your other example (iPad), again this was 3 to 4 times cheaper than Vision Pro ie:- more buyable.

Let’s see what happens, it may infact be good for the growth VR/AR, but due to price it could also be another Google Glass and Apple have had failures over the years.

My prediction (things I’ve read) is Vision Pro is not going to revolutionise, but it’s a stepping stone for Apple for future headsets and any future headsets price needs to come down to around what a iPhone costs for mass adoption.

No one needs a $1300+ smartphone. I've been using a new $200 Samsung for the past year and it has almost all the same bells and whistles, can take decent photos, play simulator games and so on.

No one needs a $3000 TV but they sell in the millions.

No one needs a $50k car when you can buy a cheaper one just as reliable for a fraction of the cost.

You understand whst I'm saying but you have a bias.

Apple never enters an industry until it's proven first. You repeat that the The Vision Pro is improven as something we need, but headsets have been a thriving industry for a DECADE now!

 

[NameFu]

The first Occulus was released in 2013... 11 years ago... Over a decade, yet skeptics find it hard to believe there's a market for a headset from Apple simply because it's $3500, despite them announcing that they'll be releasing cheaper models as well...

This is called logical bias.

 

[NameFu]

What do you mean I have bias, do you keep replying this way towards me because of what I own (don’t type it publically)?

There is no bias in me, I say what I think and put my money where my mouth is and I buy what I think AFTER I said it and that is what you get with me.

I’m a grounded person, if something fails and I’m heavily invested in this area, I will say it has failed (see Merged) and I own the main in that too, even though I still think what i own is an important domain in immersive tech, i wouldn't advice anyone to buy keywords in it (unless things like 'games').

If people have invested $1 million in domains or $10 it makes no difference, we are all in the same boat, we are all here to potentially make money, I’m not an expert in VR/AR, I have a full time job outside this, I’ve made a lot of money in domains, but I’ve also made mistakes and I’m here to give my own experiences where I’ve failed and succeeded (so people can learn from me), there is no ego in me and I learn every day, I admitted as much today in how I underestimated ‘Spatial’ after researching more last night.

Don’t say I’m bias, I’m not that person!

Everyone has biases. You are that "kind of person" because you're a human being. But if you take offense from the way I've said it I'll refrain from saying it again. We are having a harmless debate so please don't take what I've said personally. Let's keep it light huh?

But anyway...I hope the Vision Pro succeeds. Whether or not that will equate to anything meaningful in Spatial domain sales has yet to be seen. Unfortunately I'm not as invested in Spatial as I'd wish.

 

[ninja3]

Regged VisionalPro.com

 

[ItsCalled]

The iPhone XR pretty much ruined any chances of apple using XR as a marketing term... But XR will definitely get a boost from the Vision Pro launch.

Jesus, it's about time! It was a rumor since 2014 lol... Nearly 10 years...

So, you are saying that because it was used as a model number it can't be used it for anything else?

Excuses for failure ? XR get a boost from VisionPro ?

I have XR names, so it's a real bummer for me too... Trust me...

But colleges have "XR" degrees. There are "XR" events. And that may not be changing any time soon.... Because B2B

So, what exactly are you saying here. Because it sounds like this ///

XR is not going anywhere because of spatial ? Or is that iPhoneXR ?

I think that it was similar to MR was not going anywhere because of XR.

And

VR AR was not going anywhere because of MR

It just sounds like ///
excuses for what you were wrong about and leaving for what is next to be wrong about.

And I don't think you understand what spatial computing is.
Not sure how you can make proper investments in it without knowing.

Just one more term that gets sold among/between domainers with very little end use "in domains".
Very predictable. Over-hype.

 

[cordoba]

The umbrella term of all realities is not XR but other, I have it with porn word and going to use those domains against porn industry so that no body will do this harmful behavior.

Just hand regged othergames, others*x, otherbets, otherdating, othervideo all in king.

 

[DomainNature]

Just hand regged othergames, others*x, otherbets, otherdating, othervideo all in king.

Laugh as much as you can Cordobortacurului, ask Twiki he may give you a hint of what it means, but in your place I would not waste his time with such nonsense, instead maybe try Google translate from Romanian to English.

 

[Armageddon]

What?

Your photo....you look like a guy who send me a inq. about spacetime.xx ( a domain i own ) say he lost his credit card & cant renew domain & now ask me to give back his domain ... lol