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When new gtld are better than .com!

Labeled as new gtlds in Niche Domain Discussion, started by postscripter, May 9, 2020

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  1. postscripter

    postscripter Upgraded Member Gold Account

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    I found this format to be very interesting. *VERB*.newgtld
    The dot separating the verb from the name which is also the tld. This make it even more natural than the .com version itself! what do you think?

    I own the below, showcase yours:

    lets.repair
    managemy.restaurant
    managemy.shop
    wemake
    .coffee
     
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  2. taheny

    taheny Established Member ★★★★★★★★★★

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    Although your domains do make some sense, I would still take the .com versions over them.
     
  3. HotKey

    HotKey Made in Canada VIP

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    Lets repair is fantastic, and better than the com counterpart imo. Still a tough sell, because it's quite good in the com as well. The rest, agree with taheny, the legacy beats em'.

    I think placement of dot plays an important role in how the n+tld works visually and spoken. When used in a "phrase" dn that consists of more than two words (including extension), the dot should be part of the rhythm, in a sense, without detracting from it. Com has an advantage because of its natural flow, almost no matter the length or type of name that precedes it. So the new Gs have to work really well to gain an edge, they almost have to be perfect.

    There's some other extensions that may work a little more naturally with a name though, like .app, but more cumbersome in a keyword+app.com setting. Another example would be the .lol extension, where you could get away with funky names, eg:

    punchline • lol
    funnies • lol

    (mine) but would look terrible in a .com setting: punchlinelol.com, funnieslol.com
     
  4. PhongSGC

    PhongSGC Established Member

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    yes, I also think that

    one of mine:

    choose // works
     
  5. BrandsOpen

    BrandsOpen BrandsOpen.com VIP

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    [​IMG]

    I also have Thrifty(.)app, which is better than .com.
     
  6. BaileyUK

    BaileyUK Top Contributor VIP

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    I agree they (Ngtlds) Look better in small text than any dot.com string. But, everyone is too keen to ignore the pronunciation of the DOT, try it will just about every Ntld domain you own and the Continuity goes out the window.
    The inclination is to only remember the Dot+the last word. And be left wondering what the hell a DOTWORD is.

    You'll have to go back to the full sentence string in order for the public to know where your coming from WWW Dot word Dot word Now things get really complicated and confusing

    Then of course we come to the advertising negatives - but that's for another thread.

    Dot App does seem to be gaining some good recognition and traction but thats taken a long time and of course it's a very much a in-vogue term for the mobile world
     
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  7. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    I tend to prefer new extensions that are a noun and use them with one word before that is an adjective, but here are some of the ones I have that follow the verb.ngTLD structure. The extension .one works in a phrase with almost any verb.
    • brew.best
    • brush.best
    • diversify.science
    • simulate.science
    • manufacture.one
    • flex.best
    • envision.one
    I had a few other .best with this structure, but they are now in other hands, so won't mention them here. Since best can be any of an adjective, adverb, noun and even verb, it works in numerous phrase structures.

    Phrases of this type work particularly well in social media campaigns where writing the phrase simply with the dot on certain platforms completes the live link. For example, if I wrote "using our tools it is possible to simulate.science in engaging ways for children of all ages." on Twitter (not NamePros) simulate.science would be a live link withou me needing to do anything at all except include the dot that is part of the domain name.

    Thanks for starting the thread @postscripter .

    Bob
     
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  8. Nametree

    Nametree Nametree.com VIP

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    Do some look better? Yeah sure.

    Are any actually more valuable than their .com counterpart? I can't think of many.

    There's value in branding across the dot if you use it right and have the right audience.

    For instance, cash.app is a brilliant fit, and undoubtedly better than cashapp.com. Better than cash.com? No way.

    AC.repair vs ACRepair.com though? Your audience is likely older, and reading off a billboard will almost always type the .com first.
     
  9. wurdd

    wurdd Top Contributor VIP

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    Do these look more natural or better to you? What about to a customer?

    repairman@lets
    .repair
    foodservice@managemy.restaurant
    mrdingle@managemy.shop
    barista@wemake
    .coffee
     
  10. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    Not sure whether the OP meant better in sense of aesthetics, or domain value, or both. Anyway, to your point, I would argue that a number of new extensions with the word My probably are more valuable. The sale last month of My.Life for $175,000 would be an example. I would value that name higher than MyLife.com. I realize some domainers would not. I think it is essentially an argument between elegant design, only include elements in the name that have a function, and the familiarity / respect of .com, particularly in the US market.

    I totally agree with your point that who it is being marketed to (e.g. age group, geographical, application) influences the value of new and legacy extension options. A name for an investment company in the USA aimed at seniors probably would value differently from a gaming app in Asia aimed at teens, to use an extreme example.

    It was an interesting choice when Shopify, a hugely successful and large company, chose to pay $200,000 a month or so ago for shop.app, even though they had ShopApp.com. I suspect the branding and marketing folks in the backrooms discussed exactly the argument of what type of name is accepted by what groups of people. Anyway, Shopify already have the name in use, so we will see. Shopify have now taken over from RBC as the highest valuation of any company on the Toronto stock exchange.

    Bob
     
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  11. BaileyUK

    BaileyUK Top Contributor VIP

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    I've no-doubt that a very, very few ntlds backed by extremely strong commercial budgets will make a strong appearance. Actually using both the .com and the new tld may open-up a unique business experiment providing the business has the budget to take the risk (doesn't work ?) No problem - we still have the dot.com to fall back on.

    It surprising not many seem to notice the members, who were the big advocates, head South out of NP's . Because they are busy with sales ??. I don't think so. Thankfully most NTld investors only seem to hold small portfolio's. So will only probably lose a $xxx, - $xxxx. speculation

    Yep, the longer your in the bigger the hit.
    I equate those that repeatedly talk about the odd big sale . Whats that a 1 to 1,500,000 ratio, by my reckoning (sure some small stuff happens beside) As promoting false solutions to those that missed the dotcom boat (including themselves)

    Hey Bob those Dot Best names you so selectively refer to as"Now in other hands " I guess you mean back in the registery hands. ;)
     
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  12. HotKey

    HotKey Made in Canada VIP

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    Most, nope.
    But what is natural? Something that works, without having to work at it, maybe? And somethings may get a more "natural" feel with time, because we get more accustomed to it. I think we have to also remember, customers can be you and I as well, so if we can understand it, they can as well.

    Sometimes understanding something is a choice well within our grasp.
    Personally I think this is an advantage of the new G's over the legacies that hasn't been tapped into yet.
     
  13. Bob Hawkes

    Bob Hawkes formerly MetBob NameTalent VIP Gold Account Trusted Blogger

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    No I definitely did not mean back in registry hands. :xf.eek: I meant that I had reduced prices on names I did not plan to renew, a number, including several with verb+.best structure, were sold at registrar sites and NL. I don't know new owners, presume other domainers.

    I wanted to answer your question, but suggest we get back to the purpose of the thread, the OP encouraged people to share verb + extension names. I would point out that this structure does not only apply only to new gTLD, but works with some country code names and for certain verbs .net can make great combinations. Here are a few verb + .me names I have. NameBio indicates a number verb+.me sales.
    • broadcasts.me
    • refinish.me
    Hope someone will share their .net names, as well as other good examples of new extension names.

    Bob
     
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  14. BaileyUK

    BaileyUK Top Contributor VIP

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    Talking of staying on topic. When some stop using the same threads to .Promote Ntlds - Then I can stop offering a countering logic.

    Lets face it 7 years and counting since ntld launch and during the biggest explosion in mobile access and personal blogs over the same period. One has to wonder when this new dawn may arise. I do agree half a dozen or so Ntlds do have a future. So that's about 0.5 to 1%

    I do my best to counter bad generalizing posts (within threads) for the sake of the newbies who are the most likely to be swayed into poor choice domain speculation
     
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  15. PhongSGC

    PhongSGC Established Member

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    First, new gTLDs & cTLDs almost look better than same words in com. About their values, this depends on purposes of end users mainly (and price of name version in com), that's why we see many recent big deals such as open.money, shop.app, etc; I think prices of these name versions in com is quite high (at least higher than gTLDs)

    My opinion, pronounce is not a major reason.

    One of mine: first /// expert - only a noun when combined, but very brandable noun & keyword-noun for any business.
     
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