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[MillersCrossing]

We have spoken on this topic so many times, I use Antonis's words as guidance.

In order of value....

XXX.TV (at least over a period of ten years)
XXXTV.COM
XXXCHANNEL.TV
XXXTV.TV.......

No doubt - there are some great developed XXXTV.TVs, and almost every major country/island in the world is unavailable.....

But what value would you attach if any to names like TaiwanTV.TV, HongKongTV.TV and JapanTV.TV...

None of these names are mine, but I am considering putting in an offer for a name similar in quality (ie well known ) with similar demographics, culture, geographics etc... population in excess of 4 million ..

All feedback appreciated......including you Antonis!!!

 

[johntv]

Think it also depends partly on the renewal fee of the country.tv name.

For example japantv.tv with a renewal of $50,000 for japan.tv is in my opinion worth more then taiwantv.tv with taiwan.tv having a renewal of 'only' $2,250.

To put a price tag on each of them is not easy, but will try it anyway
japantv.tv $400 to $500
taiwantv.tv $150 to $200
hongkongtv.tv $100

 

[MillersCrossing]

Thanks John....... :great:

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

Without a specific question to answer, all I can do is comment.

In the words of your favorite domainer, Frank Schilling, “The [domain] name drives the value and sells the deal.”

I would never recommend that a domainer should select a domain which does not fit their business model like a glove (or fit the potential business model a domainer envisions when speculating on a domain name).

If CNN didn't exist today and you told me you wanted to start CNN, I would ask you to seriously consider changing the name you use for your brand.

Why?

First, CNN tells me nothing about your brand and means nothing to me or the general public until you have spent money to tell us about it.

Second, in an age where everything is just a click away, the public's attention span is very short and is getting shorter. If your brand can't tell us a little something about what you do, you face an uphill battle and will lose EASY opportunities to score customers, viewers, or visitors.

Rebrand your company News.tv and suddenly everything changes. I know have some context about what your company might do...something in the area of video news, which is something everyone watches.

News.tv is the #1 brand in the new industry, Period. Because competition is fierce for generic keywords, or such keywords are considered premium names and thus pose a huge expense for an individual rather than a company, then I might suggest it would be wise to consider alternative and defensive registrations.

The defensive registrations are necessary even for the corporation that can pick up the tab on news.tv. The first four alternative and defensive registrations I can picture off the top of my head include:

NewsTV.tv
NewsChannel.tv
NewsStation.tv
NewsTV.com

The same thing applies just as much if not more to geos than it does for generics because of the greater number of variations we are starting to see.

Take Hollywood.tv for example. You have:

HollywoodTV.tv
HollywoodTV.com
MyHollywood.tv
HollywoodChannel.tv
HollywoodCA.tv

In the end, I suspect the top four alternative/defensive registrations will encourage multiple online businesses competing for the same thing if these names are not owned by a single individual or company.

I would try and pick up the alternative and defensive registrations if you can get the best domain in the industry. (the best geo related to Hollywood would be Hollywood.tv in the above geo example).

If you plan on developing, then getting the best name that is available is the way to go even if you have to acquire it from the secondary market. If you are speculating, I think TV.tv is VERY strong from an SEO standpoint though its not as strong as Channel.tv from a brand/development perspective.
Just my two cents.

 

[equity78]

JOHN I think you are correct with the reg fees of the pur premium then comparing to the tv.tv I have USAtv.tv with USA.tv at $100,000 and Girlstv.tv with Girls.tv being owned by IGAL so I know never being sold never being developed so I look at those two being attractive for a buyer interested in either USA or Girls and I will take USATV.tv and GIRLSTV.tv over USACHANNEL.tv and GIRLSCHANNEL.tv anyday.

Geo's are tricky because the pure is
Geo.com
Geo.net and Geo.info also very strong
GEO.home country cctld example Germany.de
then IMO GEOTV.com
then Geo.tv
then Geotv.tv & Geochannel.tv

Again IMO

 

[MillersCrossing]

JOHN I think you are correct with the reg fees of the pur premium then comparing to the tv.tv I have USAtv.tv with USA.tv at $100,000 and Girlstv.tv with Girls.tv being owned by IGAL so I know never being sold never being developed so I look at those two being attractive for a buyer interested in either USA or Girls and I will take USATV.tv and GIRLSTV.tv over USACHANNEL.tv and GIRLSCHANNEL.tv anyday.

Geo's are tricky because the pure is
Geo.com
Geo.net and Geo.info also very strong
GEO.home country cctld example Germany.de
then IMO GEOTV.com
then Geo.tv
then Geotv.tv & Geochannel.tv

Again IMO

I hear you Equity on Geos being possibly different cause some added extensions like info, org, and cctld..... make sense, whereas in some other keywordTV.TV, it would not.....

My take on this particular geo I have in mind is that one owner owns them all, GEOTV.COM, GEO.TV and GEOCHANNEL.COM and GEOTV.TV - the owner will not sell any of the them short of the TV.TV unless a super huge offer came in.....because the owner is looking to develop and wants the regges as protection, but does not mind one competitor - probably because the owner believes it will bring him added traffic!!!!!!!!

So, I feel pretty safe that anyone wanting this geo and a TV brand to go with it, would have to come to me unless of course they go the MYxxx route - which is also gone on this name but essentially there will always be alternatives once you start with TV.TV.......

So coming back to square one, if someone wanted this very well known popular and economically booming country - surely there is a chance it may bring in $500 - $1000. I dont know the reg fee unfortunately for the geo.tv, the owner wont disclose, but it is a high value geo on its own merit, thats for sure.......

Thanks to everyone who has contributed.....

 

[equity78]

Best example IMO of someone saying "screw you " to Verisign GOL TV they could afford $5000 a year but instead regged GOLTV.tv and someone else paid $5000 for GOL.tv and it is parked at SEDO. SO since way I started the conversation on TV.tv I think you should go for it and good luck with the domain.

AND someone tonight regged Newstv.tv for $1000 a year

 

[MillersCrossing]

Best example IMO of someone saying "screw you " to Verisign GOL TV they could afford $5000 a year but instead regged GOLTV.tv and someone else paid $5000 for GOL.tv and it is parked at SEDO. SO since way I started the conversation on TV.tv I think you should go for it and good luck with the domain.

AND someone tonight regged Newstv.tv for $1000 a year

No coincidence surely!!!!!!!!!!

Not just my thread, the other one on ExerciseTV.TV......

For someoene whos got the cash, definately worth the punt!!

 

[*AllThings.tv*]

And James, if its not a premium, surely the $10 GoDaddy price is worth the risk. It takes very little click through income to cover that reg! Worth the shot!!!

 

[smashfactory]

millers- if i could piggyback a question-

what about say, chinesetv.tv as compared to chinatv.tv

i am guessing the latter is better but is the former still a nice hold?

 

[hullswingerscom]

i have news-tv.tv....
is worth a bet....if yes then
tv-news-tv.tv is we can go one for ever.

i think with dot tv small name are good like newstv for the logo on the video.

 

[DnEbook]

I wonder if room for ........ show.tv example jobshow.tv , auctionshow.tv dateshow.tv (which i own) i feel they say what they have to ? also have fitnessshow.tv freesexshow.tv businessshow.tv ..... freeshow.tv , i guess beggers cant be chosers ...... i like them and think they will grow in value over time
just an opinion

 

[MillersCrossing]

millers- if i could piggyback a question-

what about say, chinesetv.tv as compared to chinatv.tv

i am guessing the latter is better but is the former still a nice hold?

Well I think ChineseTv.Tv is a unique name in that it also means eating take out chinese..

But I would assume all things being equal, take other names like RussianTV.TV, worth the reg except less value than the country name itself ie RussiaTV.TV...

Whether its the country or the language, IMO, it has to be one of the very best geos (top 20) to be worth the TV.TV reg....

So SOLIHULLTV.TV I would not reg!!

And yes, I probably will buy it Kevin, although its not a ten dollar reg, I need to make someone an offer!! If its senseble enough, I will go for it...

 

[smashfactory]

when i see tv.tv i see the word before doing very well as an adjective as opposed to the noun- someone watches chinese tv, the enjoy chinese culture, they listen to chinese radio,etc. same with russian, mexican, ect.... you would say mexican food, mexican music mexican language- etc.... not mexico food, mexico music-


i am not at all arguing the noun is not the more desired, i just see the latter used an aweful lot so it seemed to make sense to me that everything mexico watches is on mexicantv-
i wish i had that one but i got one or two others- europeantv.tv. africantv.tv- africa has 231 million google pages but african pulls a respectible 163 million- european is not far behiond europe, etc...

does european and african fall in the top 20 millers? or even the top 30?

 

[del.icio.us]

when i see tv.tv i see the word before doing very well as an adjective as opposed to the noun- someone watches chinese tv, the enjoy chinese culture, they listen to chinese radio,etc. same with russian, mexican, ect.... you would say mexican food, mexican music mexican language- etc.... not mexico food, mexico music-


i am not at all arguing the noun is not the more desired, i just see the latter used an aweful lot so it seemed to make sense to me that everything mexico watches is on mexicantv-
i wish i had that one but i got one or two others- europeantv.tv. africantv.tv- africa has 231 million google pages but african pulls a respectible 163 million- european is not far behiond europe, etc...

does european and african fall in the top 20 millers? or even the top 30?

Well,
I agree. People like to watch a mexicantv than a mexicotv.

Considering the Geo.TV alternatives, people may opt for
Geo.TV - (Highest priority, heavy budget)
GeoChannel.TV
GeoTV.TV
or even
ChannelGeo.TV (worst case)

In this case, people may choose GeoChannel.TV or GeoTv.TV than a GeoAdjTV.TV, imho.

 

[equity78]

Worldtv.tv on the first page of premiums on the low end $110

 

[Dr. Mindwrecker]

AND someone tonight regged Newstv.tv for $1000 a year

LOL

Worldtv.tv on the first page of premiums on the low end $110

im assuming world.tv was a premium was it regged and what was the fee?

 

[DomainAgency.com]

Take Hollywood.tv for example. You have:

HollywoodTV.tv
HollywoodTV.com
MyHollywood.tv
HollywoodChannel.tv
HollywoodCA.tv

Don't completely take a nap on the ChannelHollywood.tv convention. It is very viable and brandable IMO

Check out www.ChannelSandiego.com which forward to a news station.

My top 5

keep in mind to me the generics will hold the most value by far. There is only 1 an a million alts.

Geo.com - by a wide margin
Geo.TV - by a wide margin over GeoTV.com
Geotv.com
GeoChannel.com
GeoChannel.tv

 

[smashfactory]

keep in mind to me the generics will hold the most value by far. There is only 1 an a million alts.

i dont think anyone will ever dispute this fact- but- there is just ONE true generic, and a bunch of us- so obviously we all can not own it. i know, just as everyone does, there is a path to follow in value for sure. we all know, and all agree china.com is the very best of the best. but, why even keep saying, that would be the one i would own, if NONE of us is EVER gonna own it.

i think, that threads about extensions need to be talked about to make the very best with the extensions, because they will be bought-
i can bet my panties there is not just one person who wants cars.com- but he aint getting it- he aint getting ecars.com either- enterprise owns that-ecar: taken. and so on....

so even tho yes- the mighty generic term is the best, i cant have it. so there goes my kabillions. i will be just as happy when some guy buys my PoliticalTV.tv because he cant touch political.com. and, in time, i bet someone is gonna buy it.

 

[equity78]

Well I get where your coming from Dottie I think it just comes down to everyone coming from a different school. I mean there are some people on here who can afford to buy the premium generic. Others cannot afford the geo.com, the geo.tv or the geotv.com so for them geotv.tv or geochannel becomes the choice. I think the beauty is there are many ways you can make it and be successful, and your success may not be a success to someone else but who cares you have to focus on your own business path. I know a guy who is worth $20 million and got there from Investment Banking and I know a guy worth close to $10 million from Vending different paths one worked his ass off a lot more physically but they both got there.