.tv .TV Threatened by Climate Change? Owen Frager Thinks So...

[Ms Domainer]

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I read with great interest Owen Frager's article on what he terms could be the first victims of climate change: Tuvalu and, perhaps, .TV.

http://fragerfactor.blogspot.com/2014/04/mnn-coms-dottv-doomer-sunday-first.html​

Whether or not this is a climate change issue or not, it is a fact that Tuvalu is quickly going under water, which definitely has serious repercussions for the Tuvalun population, who must relocate soon. I can't even imagine such a scary future...

Frager believes that Hollywood has shied away from .TV because of this geographical instability.

Could this mean the end for .TV as we know it, or will a company like Donuts "rescue" it?

I have one .TV that I'm using for my grandddaughter's blog, so I do hope that someone will step in.

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[johname]

They will do what Monaco did to reclaim more land from the sea. Dump imported rocks on the atolls and they will pay for it with premium dot tv renewals.

 

[McDuke]

yup, i think donuts would gladly take on the burden of .tv :D

It's scary, just the other day I overheard someone going on about how man made climate change is a hoax....

 

[Kate]

Lots of speculation imho.

The DNS is already full of anomalies. Just a few examples:
.ps Palestine: a "country" with no firm boundaries
.su Soviet Union: a political entity that doesn't exist anymore
.aq Antarctica: a non-country with no government
.so Somalia: a country with virtually no authority

Just because a country disappears doesn't mean it cannot relocate. Or that it must have a territory in order to legally exist.
For instance, the Baltic states assimilated by Stalin have had governments in exile for decades.
Even the Order of Malta is treated like a country in certain international organizations and has diplomatic relations etc :talk:

 

[GoneWalkabout]

I really thought we'd seen the last of this type of ignorance many years ago but obviously there are still stupid people doing the rounds and talking trash.

Rather than spending valuable time on this, perhaps it is just a lot easier to point out one very simple fact:

If the oceans rose to entirely cover Tuvalu the world would be more worried about far bigger things than .com .tv or .anything.

The simple fact is oceans rise uniformly and we would be too busy wondering how to get back New York City, London, Miami, Mumbai and a thousand other cities and countries that would equally be affected.

Yes, global warming is a bIG problem - but trying to suggest it will end the .tv domain is an absolutely nasty smear (playing on people's genuine concern for a serious subject) and shows what a 'richard' the writer of this mumbo jumbo actually is.

Shame on you Owen Frager.

What next...
.us will disappear because the Yellowstone Park SuperVolcano is going to blow away the continental US?
.uk will disappear because Putin wants it for the Ukraine?
.ca will disappear because an independent California question its use by Canada?
.dumb will disappear because it is being replaced by .frager?

Names are one thing. But misusing really serious and big issues to help peddle your own tawdry wares and agenda is heinous.






It may also be worth pointing out that the people who run .TV are Verisign - the same people who run .com - and they do so from their data centres in Dulles in Virginia, New Castle in Delaware, and Fribourg in Switzerland.

If .tv goes down, so does .com!

 

[mjnels]

wait a minute here.. people actually read fragers blog?

 

[Ammudamus]

Why even read Owen's blog? Recycled shit. No facts.


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[forge]

I think Tuvalu should relocate to the Mall of America.

How cool would THAT be!?

If they wanted, they could build a giant moat around it. Add some palm trees and voila!

 

[johname]

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It's a big enough concern that Tuvalu made a pleading statement about it in the past.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/09/13/environment-tuvalu-dc-idUKSEO11194920070913

But their numbers then were 30-50 years.

I wonder how 30-50 years is now one and a half. Too many people have blogs now and need material lol

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[HeyNow]

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I read with great interest Owen Frager's article on what he terms could be the first victims of climate change: Tuvalu and, perhaps, .TV.

http://fragerfactor.blogspot.com/2014/04/mnn-coms-dottv-doomer-sunday-first.html​

Whether or not this is a climate change issue or not, it is a fact that Tuvalu is quickly going under water, which definitely has serious repercussions for the Tuvalun population, who must relocate soon. I can't even imagine such a scary future...

Frager believes that Hollywood has shied away from .TV because of this geographical instability.

Could this mean the end for .TV as we know it, or will a company like Donuts "rescue" it?

I have one .TV that I'm using for my grandddaughter's blog, so I do hope that someone will step in.

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If there is no country, there can be no country code TLD. No one will "rescue" it.

Perhaps Hollywood has " ... shied away from .TV ..." because .TV is the country-code TLD for a third-world island nation, rather than a stable, first-world country. Perhaps sharp Hollywood execs (unlike Major League Baseball) did their homework and discovered that Tuvalu is vulnerable in all sorts of ways.

Two letter TLDs are for country codes, not gTLDs. Unless ICANN changes their policy and allows a country code to exist for a country which no longer exists, then you may as well say goodbye to .TV if climate or any other force obliterates Tuvalu from the above-sea-level map.

 

[mjnels]

you say "unless ICANN changes their policy" like thats hard to do.

dude, they just willy nilly released 1,000 TLD's... i think they can "change their policy"

the .tv registry isnt just going to get deleted no matter how much you want it to.

 

[carob]

Well they say a rising tide lifts all boats - so bring on .io

Yes IO stands for Indian Ocean.

 

[GoneWalkabout]

If there is no country, there can be no country code TLD. No one will "rescue" it.

Perhaps Hollywood has " ... shied away from .TV ..." because .TV is the country-code TLD for a third-world island nation, rather than a stable, first-world country. Perhaps sharp Hollywood execs (unlike Major League Baseball) did their homework and discovered that Tuvalu is vulnerable in all sorts of ways.

Two letter TLDs are for country codes, not gTLDs. Unless ICANN changes their policy and allows a country code to exist for a country which no longer exists, then you may as well say goodbye to .TV if climate or any other force obliterates Tuvalu from the above-sea-level map.

Wow, there are more of them doing the rounds than I imagined.

When a volcano erupted in Tristan da Cunha (TLD = .sh) in 1961, the entire population were evacuated to wooden huts in the disused Pendell Army Camp in Merstham, Surrey, England.

But that still didn't stop Tristan da Cunha from existing - and Tristan da Cunha still exists today.

Of course, should the world's oceans rise by three metres and your main concern was for the fate of .tv .com or .anything domain-related then I feel your priorities might be slightly skewed!




You might also want to read a bit earlier where a list of countries that have .tld's but don't actually exist were posted.

 

[Nitindomains]

Viva la Tuvalu, Viva la .tv

 

[Kate]

By the way...

Eligible countries for country-code TLDs

ICANN is not in the business of deciding what is and what is not a country. Instead, we employ a neutral standard maintained by the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency. Our policy is to create new country-code top-level domains when the country or territory is listed on the ISO 3166-1 standard.

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To be listed in the bulletin Country Names you must either be

a member country of the United Nations,
a member of one of its specialized agencies or
a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice.

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https://www.iana.org/help/eligible-tlds

 

[equity78]

One of the most articulate pieces on the topic, and it is not a short read, but if people want a picture of what all the ramifications are, such as countries purchasing land or another country renting them islands. And many other ideas. Tuvalu has already asserted they do not give up their sovereign rights.

http://ilsa.org/jessup/jessup13/Disapearing States, Jane McAdam.pdf

Hollywood has not fully embraced .tv because their .com works just fine, and they have been using it for years, many shows use a .tv and a few networks do. The fact Frager is being quoted well that says it all really.

 

[carob]

You might also want to read a bit earlier where a list of countries that have .tld's but don't actually exist were posted.

Don't forget Transvestia.

Or Transexual Transylvania. Let's do the time warp again.

 

[DnEbook]

they would only have to put a flag pole on the highest piece of ground to continue to claim all mining rights and intellectual property rights while they holiday in hawaii

 

[garptrader]

.MIAMI, .LA & .NYC need to get a refund then as they are next

I live about ten miles inland from Hollywood Beach - between Miami and Fort Lauderdale. So in how many weeks will I have a beachfront view? Good thing I'm on the second floor.

 

[DnEbook]

the sky is falling (water)