The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

[italiandragon]

Hello, I think it would be pretty useful to keep track of all LLLL.com sales , even the little ones under $100 so that , pretty soon , when the available LLLL.com will be finished , we`ll have a better idea on market prices.

It is important that these sales are confirmed. So before to post, make sure payment went OK.

I will start with todays` Sedo confirmed sales:

FISE.com 2,700 Euros
TSRT.com US $760
VEUP.com US $1,700


Also, I found interesting to see this average LLLL, getting bids up to $51 and reserve not me. It says it all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110154111735_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

 

[saucey]

Any worth..?

Any worth for this LLLL?? Can you figure out a use of the letters? In any language? I keep seeing Volkswagon for the VW part...

HUVW.com

Thanks..

Hmmm. just found out that HU is abbr. for Hungary... perhaps Hungary Volkswagon... hmmmm

 

[italiandragon]

Something is going on. The past week should have been a very quite one, considering also the current economic crisis.....but it has not been.
These are few REPORTED sales of the last few days. LLLL.com vs LLL.com
Keep selling for peanuts, between few years we will regrets what we had.
Less and less is available. I am going to rise my prices.
Bido`s unpopularity lead to very cheap prices on its sales.

Domain Sold Date Sold Price Source

tmhs.com 2010-01-02 $5,012 USD Sedo :notme:
dfox.com 2010-01-01 $1,146 USD Sedo
vtid.com 2010-01-01 $940 USD Sedo
ukpa.com 2010-01-01 $1,333 USD Sedo
vixo.com 2010-01-01 $1,500 USD Sedo
mick.com 2010-01-01 $12,500 USD Sedo
wuum.com 2009-12-31 $975 USD Sedo
ribn.com 2009-12-31 $2,500 USD Sedo
ckps.com 2009-12-31 $2,015 USD Sedo :gl:
zong.com 2009-12-31 $10,000 USD Sedo
fsgi.com 2009-12-31 $10,000 USD Sedo :gl:
sgef.com 2009-12-31 $1,437 USD Sedo
pstv.com 2009-12-31 $5,509 USD Sedo
pegy.com 2009-12-31 $1,578 USD Sedo
pjfe.com 2009-12-31 $32 USD Bido
yocg.com 2009-12-31 $29 USD Bido
oefk.com 2009-12-31 $29 USD Bido
zeru.com 2009-12-30 $802 USD Sedo
geok.com 2009-12-30 $510 USD Sedo
fnmx.com 2009-12-30 $250 USD Bido
rbuw.com 2009-12-30 $104 USD Bido
gmjn.com 2009-12-30 $181 USD Bido
kiev.com 2009-12-30 $88,000 USD Sedo
fold.com 2009-12-30 $28,742 USD Sedo
qurl.com 2009-12-29 $1,441 USD Sedo
nruw.com 2009-12-29 $28 USD Bido
jtvt.com 2009-12-29 $153 USD Bido
dvbh.com 2009-12-29 $1,431 USD Sedo
king.com 2009-12-29 $150,000 USD Sedo :hearts:





ujc.com 2009-12-31 $20,878 USD Sedo
dcq.com 2009-12-30 $3,582 USD Sedo
tjn.com 2009-12-30 $2,007 USD Sedo
axz.com 2009-12-29 $4,000 USD Sedo
ctj.com 2009-12-29 $5,099 USD Sedo
mzh.com 2009-12-29 $2,850 USD Sedo
pfk.com 2009-12-29 $5,292 USD Sedo
bwz.com 2009-12-29 $4,862 USD Sedo
qxz.com 2009-12-29 $4,500 USD Sedo
lmj.com 2009-12-29 $4,437 USD Sedo
jfn.com 2009-12-29 $4,434 USD Sedo
zmy.com 2009-12-29 $4,363 USD Sedo

And for the ones who discriminate some letters, here a special candy fron the UK:

xyz.co.uk 2009-12-31 $4,846 USD Sedo :lala:

Sorry for the off topic but its very useful to compare once in awhile in the same thread....as I remember some people telling me LLLL.com are just a "hype between domainers"....:bah:

I will repeat one more time: don`t buy the story about premium letters.

 

[maxeaus]

I take it most of the LLL.com did not sell at those prices Dragon. TJN.com at $2,000!

Yes we have seen some good sales in the LLLL.com name space over the last couple of months.

 

[Tim Schoon]

what retard sold king.com for $150k... dang

btw most of your reported lll.com sales didnt sell, reserve price auctions with not met reserves..
the names that ended 2-4k had a 5k+ reserve, scaring off bidders..

 

[italiandragon]

I take it most of the LLL.com did not sell at those prices Dragon. TJN.com at $2,000!

Yes we have seen some good sales in the LLLL.com name space over the last couple of months.

Those data come from an automatic feed, I will enquire on the accuracy, in the mean time anyone is very welcome to double check, thanks. I think it`s possible, given the time of the year, not everyone was watching domains, I was not !

There are a few others reported on DN Journal, if they have not been reported, here they are:

@ Sedo

okis.com $6,360
sply.com $5,700
mycd.com $3,000


@ MostWantedDomains:

MFFX.com $4,250


And this, without AfternicDLS since:

"However, this week the AfternicDLS was missing in action when our deadline arrived. So, expect two weeks worth of sales from them next week when just about everyone will be be back at work and would should again have the full complement of sales venues represented."


Slowly all LLLL.com will disappear from the aftermarket and will be happily married to endusers

 

[nicedomains]

Slowly all LLLL.com will disappear from the aftermarket and will be happily married to endusers

idk.. Alot of these sales that look like end users who paid $xxxx+ end up as parked pages again. Some drop, some resell.. yes some do finally find a home with an end user but not at a fast rate you imply. I don't believe even 50% of ALL LLLL.coms will EVER be 'happily married' to an 'end user' (depending on your definition of an end user is). Don't forget with idn.idn and idn.cctld rollouts this year and over the next few years there will be many more options that make sense for the countries that may have utilized one of the more obsure anti-premium LLLL.coms. I think there will be plenty of LLLL .coms on the aftermarket for some time. I'm by no means an expert on LLLL so of course this just all IMHO.

 

[italiandragon]

idk.. Alot of these sales that look like end users who paid $xxxx+ end up as parked pages again. Some drop, some resell.. yes some do finally find a home with an end user but not at a fast rate you imply. I don't believe even 50% of ALL LLLL.coms will EVER be 'happily married' to an 'end user' (depending on your definition of an end user is). Don't forget with idn.idn and idn.cctld rollouts this year and over the next few years there will be many more options that make sense for the countries that may have utilized one of the more obsure anti-premium LLLL.coms. I think there will be plenty of LLLL .coms on the aftermarket for some time. I'm by no means an expert on LLLL so of course this just all IMHO.

well, last time I scanned the whole 456,976 LLLL.com was nearly 2 years ago so I just started the scan now.
Because I have low speed and am scanning not only for the availability status but other things as well, it will take me about 200 hours.....

Once the scan is finished I will present the results.

An enduser in my view is someone who does not want to sell the domain, unless you pay 100,000 for it.....and that domain would be normally worth 1/10 or less than that. But normally most endusers won`t sell....some parked ones can be parked for future ideas , still they won`t sell.
It`s a bit complicated.....I`m the enduser for italiandragon.com and declined 2 offers in the past but also because they were low, in my case if I was offered a better price I would depart from it......I mean sometimes you don`t want to sell it, sometimes you may.....so as this applies to everything on Earth, I am happy to consider as endusers people that are not:

1) actively trying to sell the domain
2) having ads /parked pages or no content on the domain AND at the same time be willing to sell it at low price (compared to similar domains if no revenue and based on earnings if any)

But there could be more to discuss in order to define endusers and now I don`t have time.

Let`s see first how many are available, how many are expiring, how many are parked, etc.

 

[glabnet]

well, last time I scanned the whole 456,976 LLLL.com was nearly 2 years ago so I just started the scan now.
Because I have low speed and am scanning not only for the availability status but other things as well, it will take me about 200 hours.....

Once the scan is finished I will present the results.

...

HERE every days scan for LLLL.com, LLLL.net, LLL.net -please

 

[italiandragon]

HERE every days scan for LLLL.com, LLLL.net, LLL.net -please

I did not know such site, interesting but data provided is incorrect so not reliable source.

I just checked a few names and either creation date or expiration is incorrect....I need 100 % accuracy so I do it myself.

Check for example:

DCPA.com , it says created in 2000 while it was created in 1996, expiration wrong too.

And this is just one example.

If it lists 5981 expiring in 2009, then at least 5981 have incorrect data.

 

[glabnet]

Sorry, but You are wrong. This data are right (every day!)!
(This site exist 3 years).

 

[thetruman]

Domain Name: DCPA.COM
Registrar: DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG
Whois Server: whois.registrar.telekom.de
Referral URL: T-Systems
Name Server: MANILA.ALL-FOR-ONE.DE
Name Server: PNS.DTAG.DE
Name Server: SECONDARY006.DTAG.NET
Status: ok
Updated Date: 07-jan-2009
Creation Date: 06-jan-2000
Expiration Date: 06-jan-2010

 

[Tim Schoon]

DCPA.com , it says created in 2000 while it was created in 1996, expiration wrong too.

Created:2000-01-06, check the whois...

 

[gladdy]

Everything is right just manually checked whois for DCPA.COM
Creation Date: 06-jan-2000

I did not know such site, interesting but data provided is incorrect so not reliable source.

I just checked a few names and either creation date or expiration is incorrect....I need 100 % accuracy so I do it myself.

Check for example:

DCPA.com , it says created in 2000 while it was created in 1996, expiration wrong too.

And this is just one example.

If it lists 5981 expiring in 2009, then at least 5981 have incorrect data.

 

[italiandragon]

actually instead of 1996 it`s 2004....I must have been looking at another one before.

 

[gladdy]

don't trust programs, check manually! )))

actually instead of 1996 it`s 2004....I must have been looking at another one before.

 

[italiandragon]

don't trust programs, check manually! )))

This IS manually. Using the script from DOS!

ITIS :

 

[SlimPickins]

.... and the (creation date) plot thickens...

 

[glabnet]

domain: dcpa.com
registrant-hdl: RDT-WM514
admin-c: RDT-DB8
tech-c: RDT-DB8
zone-c: RDT-DB8
nserver: manila.all-for-one.de
nserver: pns.dtag.de
nserver: secondary006.dtag.net
status: connected
changed: 2009-01-24
created: 2004-05-10
expires: 2010-05-10
source: DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG

nic-hdl: RDT-WM514
type: org
firstname: Wolfgang
lastname: Miller
name of the organisation: All for One Systemhaus AG
address: Unixstrasse 1
pcode: D-88436
city: Oberessendorf
country: DE
e-mail:
phone: +49 73557990
fax-no: +49 7355799111
changed: 2003-09-22
source: DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG


- IT IS domaintools.com - is any questions???
nic-hdl: RDT-DB8
type: person
firstname: Dietmar
lastname: Bammert
name of the organisation: All for One Systemhaus AG
address: Unixstrasse 1
pcode: D-88436
city: Oberessendorf
country: DE
e-mail:
phone: +49 7355 799 0
fax-no: +49 7355 799 111
changed: 2001-09-28
source: DEUTSCHE TELEKOM AG

IT IS

 

[Soofi]

Did anyone catch what DOKI.com ended at, last month? (on sedo)
I was following the auction but then somehow forgot about it.

O yes, there were only 4 bidders and it ended something like this:

Bidding History: doki.com
Winning Bid: 1,650 USD

Here is a reference link

 

[italiandragon]

This IS manually. Using the script from DOS!

ITIS :

Verisign confirms older creation dates.

I`m puzzled. I`ll have to look into this, if these domains were dropped or not or why the script reports wrong creation dates.

Either way, those 5,000+ set to expiry in 2009? Either have expired or renewed.....so when are you going to update that?