The LLLL.com sales and discussion thread

[italiandragon]

Hello, I think it would be pretty useful to keep track of all LLLL.com sales , even the little ones under $100 so that , pretty soon , when the available LLLL.com will be finished , we`ll have a better idea on market prices.

It is important that these sales are confirmed. So before to post, make sure payment went OK.

I will start with todays` Sedo confirmed sales:

FISE.com 2,700 Euros
TSRT.com US $760
VEUP.com US $1,700


Also, I found interesting to see this average LLLL, getting bids up to $51 and reserve not me. It says it all.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...110154111735_W0QQ_trksidZm37QQfromZR40QQfviZ1

 

[chandan]

$7,900 is what Reece paid for it along time ago, it was since resold, I think for around $12,000 last year. I'm guessing the owner has a small loss @$12,500.

i thought reece is the current owner and selling.

if it sold 12k last year now may be loss for current owner after deducting % brokerage :D and time

 

[snoop]

i thought reece is the current owner and selling.

if it sold 12k last year now may be loss for current owner after deducting % brokerage :D and time

I'm personally surprised it got what I did, I'm not sure the name has any clear business model behind it to justify the price. As a blog it is not going to make much and the sales platform was tried and never worked out so in all a small loss is a pretty good outcome I think.

 

[Soofi]

LLLL.com sales platform, a realistic one could do well at the domain name: LLLL.com tbh IMHO

 

[italiandragon]

Firstly why pretend I have been positive on LLL.com when I haven't? You should know how negative I have been on LLL.com that given I was posting in the same threads and arguing with you about it.

Noooo...really?? You negative?? Wow....I did not notice that...

At the same time you were trying to pump prime that market aswell.

Oh dear.

Now I am a pumper too. Fine.

Guys, please shut this thread, make him happy. Oh and the LLL.com one too.

Secondly why are you still claiming the minimum was $10,000 when it never was? We've had that debate before.

Yep...I know, you kept searching for one or two once in a year bargain price to justify that what I was writing was incorrect.

Just like now you justify that the US real estate market is rubbish using as example which city? Detroit. Great.

The domain market start falling in Jan 2008, that is right when the LLLL.com and LLL.com market started to go crazy and it sewed the seeds of a very large crash. In short both market were bubbles.

The oil market is a bubble, the gold market is a bubble, the domain market is a bubble, everything is a bubble.....no wait.....Australia Real Estate is not a bubble..... (WHATEVER )

 

[Kate]

There clearly is a bubble aspect in domaining, including LLL/LLLL niches. Bubbles exist in other industries too, but in domaining there is a huge gap between investor wishes and the reality of the market.

 

[snoop]

Yep...I know, you kept searching for one or two once in a year bargain price to justify that what I was writing was incorrect.

You must have a short memory because last time you admitted you were wrong on this statement,

My bad, you`re right: we are not yet there.

http://www.namepros.com/430782-what-will-price-january-2009-llll-2.html

There was lots of sales below $10,000 at the peak, it peaked at around $7500. The only person claiming it was $10,000 was you, and you stated back then it would soon reach $12,000. Much like you predicted LLLL.com would soon be $300+ minimum.

Then months after the market started crashing you decided to warn "noobs" of a "market correction",

http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/490450-for-the-noobs-market-correction.html

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Guys, please shut this thread, make him happy.

Given you didn't have luck with "find snoops spelling mistakes" strategy this may be your best hope.

 

[betthelot]

You must have a short memory because last time you admitted you were wrong on this statement,



http://www.namepros.com/430782-what-will-price-january-2009-llll-2.html

There was lots of sales below $10,000 at the peak, it peaked at around $7500. The only person claiming it was $10,000 was you, and you stated back then it would soon reach $12,000. Much like you predicted LLLL.com would soon be $300+ minimum.

Then months after the market started crashing you decided to warn "noobs" of a "market correction",

http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/490450-for-the-noobs-market-correction.html

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Given you didn't have luck with "find snoops spelling mistakes" strategy this may be your best hope.

Seriously Snoop I think you are compensating for something. Not only are you beating this to death, I think you are beating something else to death aswell:tri:
We all make mistakes even you! but we dont all find the need to bash it every month. (Remember your prediction in beginning of 2008 that LLL.coms will rise - remember selling jjj(.)com for 16K for someone to flip for 48K in a matter of a few months). In life we aim to get the majority of our calls right. Great you got this one right but that doesn't give you the right to bash those on the other side of the fence forever. You clearly get off on it, entertaining but a little egotistic dont you think.

 

[snoop]

Seriously Snoop I think you are compensating for something. Not only are you beating this to death, I think you are beating something else to death aswell:tri:
We all make mistakes even you! but we dont all find the need to bash it every month. (Remember your prediction in beginning of 2008 that LLL.coms will rise - remember selling jjj(.)com for 16K for someone to flip for 48K in a matter of a few months). In life we aim to get the majority of our calls right. Great you got this one right but that doesn't give you the right to bash those on the other side of the fence forever. You clearly get off on it, entertaining but a little egotistic dont you think. Get over yourself.

The issue from my perspective is that he still carries making the same claims that have been proven wrong in the past, even claims that he has previously admitted were wrong (like the LLL.com 10k stuff).

Regarding LLL.com's they contuined rising for 6 months after I made that statement. Personally I sold mine mainly in early-mid 2008 and told others to follow suit whilst I was selling mine.

 

[betthelot]

The issue from my perspective is that he still carries making the same claims that have been proven wrong in the past, even claims that he has previously admitted were wrong (like the LLL.com 10k stuff).

I understand that but why not just let it go - every man and his dog knows your position on this and most agree with your previous analysis, some belatedly, but why keep given people a hard time when they made an error in judgement. Most people only find the need to highlight it once but you just keep wanting to keep it going for all its worth. Gets to the point of being destructive. I spoke out against LLLL.coms before the crash in a long debate with reece but never felt the need to raise it again - in fact I signed off hoping they would prove me wrong. You clearly got a lot to offer the domaining community - a hell of alot more if you could be more tactful and constructive. I know I can be criticised for the same before you say it

 

[snoop]

I understand that but why not just let it go - every man and his dog knows your position on this and most agree with your previous analysis, some belatedly, but why keep given people a hard time when they made an error in judgement. Most people only find the need to highlight it once but you just keep wanting to keep it going for all its worth. Gets to the point of being destructive. I spoke out against LLLL.coms before the crash in a long debate with reece but never felt the need to raise it again - in fact I signed off hoping they would prove me wrong. You clearly got a lot to offer the domaining community - a hell of alot more if you could be more tactful and constructive. I know I can be criticised for the same before you say it

Perhaps look back a dozen or so so posts and see how this started - Italiandragon started arguing with me, not the other way around. I told people I still believe these names are to be avoided at the low end - which is perfectly reasonable and based on continuing sales data show losses for owners.

He replied stating that I was whining and that I'd never said a positive thing on this forum. If he is going to engage me I'm happy to argue back, and if he has negative words for me I am more than happy to point out the countless number of times he has been wrong in the past.

Now some people don't like being reminded about how badly this market continues to perform, but that is life, it is a terrible market to be investing in. I'll keep sporadically reminding people of it, because I hate seeing people waste money on the back of hype. In 12 months time the people buying low quality LLLL.com are unlikely to be any better off than today. The registration fees are a ball and chain for people holding $5 names.

The arguments presented today are the same as there were 2 years ago, it seems for some people the reality of this market still hasn't suck in. Given what has happened how can it be said anyone was too negative on this market?

 

[italiandragon]

You must have a short memory because last time you admitted you were wrong on this statement,



http://www.namepros.com/430782-what-will-price-january-2009-llll-2.html

There was lots of sales below $10,000 at the peak, it peaked at around $7500. The only person claiming it was $10,000 was you, and you stated back then it would soon reach $12,000. Much like you predicted LLLL.com would soon be $300+ minimum.

Then months after the market started crashing you decided to warn "noobs" of a "market correction",

http://www.namepros.com/short-domain-discussion/490450-for-the-noobs-market-correction.html

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Given you didn't have luck with "find snoops spelling mistakes" strategy this may be your best hope.

You know...I am a very understanding and patient person under normal circumstances.

And in the last 2 years I had to deal with a lot more than just domains.

So, yes probably I truly forgot a few details and honestly I don't have the time to go searching for every word I wrote, plus you seem to do it quite well so why doing it twice?

I have been wrong. Apologies to anyone.

STOP BUYING LLL.COM AND LLLL.COM AND JUST FOLLOW SNOOP'S GUIDELINES.

Regards

 

[betthelot]

Perhaps look back a dozen or so so posts and see how this started - Italiandragon started arguing with me, not the other way around. I told people I still believe these names are to be avoided at the low end - which is perfectly reasonable and based on continuing sales data show losses for owners.

He replied stating that I was whining and that I'd never said a positive thing on this forum. If he is going to engage me I'm happy to argue back, and if he has negative words for me I am more than happy to point out the countless number of times he has been wrong in the past.

Now some people don't like being reminded about how badly this market continues to perform, but that is life, it is a terrible market to be investing in. I'll keep sporadically reminding people of it, because I hate seeing people waste money on the back of hype. In 12 months time the people buying low quality LLLL.com are unlikely to be any better off than today. The registration fees are a ball and chain for people holding $5 names.

The arguments presented today are the same as there were 2 years ago, it seems for some people the reality of this market still hasn't suck in. Given what has happened how can it be said anyone was too negative on this market?

You are shooting in an open net its too easy - dressed up as concern for others. Lets just leave it. I clearly have not made you look at it differently. Lets move on. I don't want a spat about it. In the wider arena its of no importance and apologies for the tongue in cheek jokes.:D

 

[TexasDomainer]

titf.com $750???
[WTS] TITF.com

 

[redshift]

Domain: whib.com
Most Recent Sales Price: $48,600
Date: 2010-05-20 Sold at: sedo.com

I was looking through NameBio and saw this sale. why did it go for so much?

 

[Soofi]

titf.com $750???
[WTS] TITF.com

umm sorry if this is x-rated :lol:
TIT Fcuk maybe?

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Domain: whib.com
Most Recent Sales Price: $48,600
Date: 2010-05-20 Sold at: sedo.com

I was looking through NameBio and saw this sale. why did it go for so much?

I think it was bought by 163.com, that's why ?

 

[buckshotdots]

Been out of the loop for a bit now with LLLL's. I recently got an offer for QIKK.com for 1XX. Should I sell it or hold onto it? I liked it as I thought it was brandable plus you could pronounce it. ANyone want to comment?

Thanks, Gary.

 

[snoop]

Been out of the loop for a bit now with LLLL's. I recently got an offer for QIKK.com for 1XX. Should I sell it or hold onto it? I liked it as I thought it was brandable plus you could pronounce it. ANyone want to comment?

Thanks, Gary.

Not sure how you'd pronounce that. Sell I would say.

 

[Soofi]

Been out of the loop for a bit now with LLLL's. I recently got an offer for QIKK.com for 1XX. Should I sell it or hold onto it? I liked it as I thought it was brandable plus you could pronounce it. ANyone want to comment?

Thanks, Gary.

It's well brandable but doubtful about the price, umm drag that offer to Sedo and auction it, no?

 

[bmugford]

Many domains have more value than that based on letter quality alone. It pays to do the research. The following are all developed

qikklogos.com
qikkmessages.com
qikkprint.com

I would not sell it for $100 with solid potential end users.

Brad

Not sure how you'd pronounce that. Sell I would say.

 

[snoop]

It's well brandable but doubtful about the price, umm drag that offer to Sedo and auction it, no?

Sedo's minimum commission is $50. If it is not via Sedo I wouldn't be trying to push them that way.