new gtlds The future will be good...

[Wass]

New gTLD sales: Sex.Live: $160.000 / Porn.Live: $120.000
The future will be good for good new gTLDs.

 

[Doron Vermaat]

Oh my, here we go again..

 

[deez007]

Lol.... I promised myself not to get involved in nGTLD conversations/debates anymore. It's a on going tennis match with no end.

 

[Kate]

Maybe for you everything is new, because you are (ahem) new, but for us History keeps repeating itself. We have been seeing the exact same stuff for at least 10 years.

BTW it's not that I don't believe in new extensions, I believe in sales. Why should I believe in new extensions, when the end users don't ? Ponder this for a while.

 

[domeen]

I'm slightly confused.. Did or didn't the sale take place? Why wasn't money exchanged?

just a stunt for lure poor suckers...
who acutally belive that they can make money with .live

 

[domeen]

No it will not.

 

[Kate]

Newbies vastly overestimate the demand for aftermarket domains. It's already hard enough to sell good .com. At least don't make life more difficult than it should be.
Talking about the future is good, but it's the present that matters the most. To put it differently: achievements have to take place now, or they never will.

 

[Domain Lead Finder]

New gTLD sales: Sex.Live: $160.000 / Porn.Live: $120.000
The future will be good for good new gTLDs.

The 5$ logo on both sites makes me question the validity of this sales report.

 

[Domain Lead Finder]

Valid or not: maybe for you is important but for me and above all for the market is not important.
Time will tell...

Maybe they spent all their money on these "super premium" domains and had none left for the logo? Isn't it strange how they both point to the same white label, and how they both have a 1$ logo? But they spent 280.000$ on these 2 "super premium" domain names?

 

[Kate]

We are in a different era now I think: We have 2000 new gTLDs...

No. The collective value of new extensions is diluted, because there are so many. In the past, new extensions were seldom released, and most of the time it was one by one. So they were a bit special but still not desirable.
Now the supply has increased exponentially, but they are still not desirable.
And when you have more choice, you have less incentive to pay a premium price for a given domain name.

 

[mad409]

I see new sites all the time, only a matter of time before there's a massive popular website that everyone has heard of using a new gTLD.

New site about to launch.. spring.xyz

Domain sold for 6K btw, not mine but a decent sale!

 

[Bram C.]

Those that think no aftermarket sales are taking place by domainers need to look around. There have been many sales by domainers, whether it's a private sale, auction or etc.. Is it where we want it to be, NO but it's so early with new g's and this will take time. That's just common sense.

Define many sales?

There's around 23.3 million gTLD domains registered as of today compared to around 125 million registered .com domains. So statistically, if the gTLDs were to perform as good as .com, then for every 5 reported (domainer) .com sales there should be 1 reported (domainer) gTLD sale. However if you regularly look at the weekly domain sales at dnjournal and filter out the irrelevant gTLD registry sales then you usually see extremely few gTLD sales, if any at all. Actually to take this one step further there are still more .org, .net and .tv sales happening then gTLD sales right now so even those weaker extensions (compared to .com) are still a much better bet than the gTLDs. And I'm pretty sure almost nobody here will advice to invest all your money in .net, .org or .tv. Yet some people are investing all what they have in gTLDs right now.

And while the "it will take time" argument may have been a decent argument 2.5 years ago it's starting to lose credibility now.

 

[astronaut]

New gTLD sales: Sex.Live: $160.000 / Porn.Live: $120.000
The future will be good for good new gTLDs.

If you believe these sales were real, you are extremely gullible

 

[nvdomains]

New fools replace old fools in this game.
History always repeats.

 

[Jurgen Wolf]

$280K is not so big money even for medium Adult-company...

 

[Jasonn]

the future will be good perhaps..for the registries! the registry is the domainer of new gtlds. they keep the best names, make people pay premiums, premium renewals, etc.

the registries will always make the best sales with new gtlds.

 

[ZapNano]

When I purchaed Porna.live, the sex.live, Porn.live and Porno.live were reserved. They were not for sale! So therefore, these two are more likely a legit purchased.
Porn.com VS Porn.live which one is more appealing; and not sounds dead.
.live extension is so perfect for this kind of business nature. It's like 360 degrees gravities. Yes, it's kind of cheap purchased; knowingly that this kind of business makes tons of profits! Just an opinion and I'm not claiming to be expert on everything, including domain names business etc..

 

[johnny6]

1. Ultra premium keywords like that are selling for high prices in almost any extension.
2. This was a registry sale. No domainers are making these kind of sales with the new gTLDs, only (some) registries are. Time will tell if this will ever change but right now the future does not look brighter simply because some registry sold 2 adult gTLD domains for a high price.

Amen, brother. There's a difference between rampant unrealistic optimism and reality. I don't see how any student of the domain industry can ever get excited about new tld's....

 

[dordomai]

Sorry but this isn't the first sale: wine.club sold for $140.000 / web.hosting sold for $75.000... and others...
This is just the beginning...

for .mobi it was the end.

Domain Price Date Venue
music.mobi 616,000 USD 2007-12-05 Sedo
flowers.mobi 200,000 USD 2006-11-25 Moniker
poker.mobi 150,000 USD 2007-12-12 Moniker
ringtones.mobi 145,000 USD 2007-12-12 Moniker
casino.mobi 135,000 USD 2009-09-09 Moniker
sportsbook.mobi 129,800 USD 2007-01-17 Private
porn.mobi 110,000 USD 2008-03-25 Moniker
news.mobi 110,000 USD 2007-11-28 Moniker
sports.mobi 101,000 USD 2007-12-05 Sedo
hosting.mobi 101,000 USD 2007-10-03 Sedo

sex.xxx 3,000,000 USD 2014-06-11 ICM Registry
gay.xxx 500,000 USD 2011-10-19 Private
teen.xxx 400,000 USD 2013-10-23 ICM Registry
mobile.xxx 160,000 USD 2013-02-20 ICM Registry
toys.xxx 125,000 USD 2012-05-09 ICM Registry
movies.xxx 90,000 USD 2012-04-25 ICM Registry
footfetish.xxx 89,000 USD 2012-04-11 ICM Registry
loft.xxx 15,845 USD 2013-01-02 Sedo
supplements.xxx 7,500 USD 2015-02-08 Uniregistry
blacktube.xxx 3,250 USD 2012-03-06 Sedo

 

[Wass]

Lol.... I promised myself not to get involved in nGTLD conversations/debates anymore. It's a on going tennis match with no end.

Agree...

 

[mad409]

fashion.fashion lol
that's terrible

Very rare/hard to reg and easy to remember. Great domain, sold for only 4k which was a bargain IMO

Boutique.Boutique 7k, sold

Coffee.Coffee 14.5k, sold

Nothing terrible, only money with these type domains...

 

[Fancy.domains]

To be fair I was not guessing. All that info is taken from what your have made public. Although earning per month, was estimated by another member on the basis of your year to date earnings. If I remember correctly you mentioned you had a wife carrying some of the living costs?

• A car here is often 2-3 more expensive than in the US and in Europe.
• Electricity is often more expensive here than is the US and Europe.
• Internet is often more expensive here than in the US and Europe.
• Imported foods and drinks are often more expensive here than in the US and Europe.
• Memberships at good gyms / fitness centers are often more expensive here than in US and Europe.
• Electronics and computers are often more expensive than in US and in Europe.
• Motorbikes 250 cc + are often more expensive than in the US and in Europe.

Cheap or rather cheap in Thailand:

• Local food and beer
• Accommodation
• Non-brand clothing
• Traveling with bus and some flights
• Scooters / motorbikes with small engines

It's kind of funny when people presupposes that all expats in Thailand live in huts, rents a scooter, drinks local beer and eat mostly rice and chicken.

 

[Fancy.domains]

I see new sites all the time, only a matter of time before there's a massive popular website that everyone has heard of using a new gTLD.

New site about to launch.. spring.xyz

Domain sold for 6K btw, not mine but a decent sale!

I see them too, just browsing the internet as usual in my work and in my spare time. Ok, you and me are gTLD speculators, but it can not only be us who have noticed this phenomenon.

 

[Wass]

360Berlin.net = 360.Berlin
Who is better: 360.Berlin or 360Berlin.net?
Who is better: 360.Berlin or 360Berlin.com?
No match for me: the winner is 360.Berlin
P.S. personally I have 360......... .coms in my portfoglio: I don't hate .coms, but 360.Berlin is the better one for me. Can you forget a domain like 360.Berlin??? I think not.
I repeat: the future will be good for good new gTLDs.

 

[Billy Wagner]

I've never before seen some many emojis in one thread.