.mobi Standalone sites

[cac14850]

Could someone please shed some light on why if I were a large company with a heavily built up .com site I WOULD NOT want to redirect my mobi to a part of it? I have been sitting here watching all the mobi critics say this is evidence large companies have no faith in mobi and therefore do not want to build a stand alone site. However, this is exactly what I would expect. Take for instance the following example. msn.it directs back to the .com site but the page it directs to is is in Italian, the msn.mobi directs to a mobile page. It is what I would want and expect. I for instance do not see msn.biz redirecting anywhere.

Now for the 3 page long thread on acuweather. It is exactly what I would expect from a site with an established presence. Why go out a rebuild the wheel? You build new applications off an existing framework. Any site that is .mobi and redirects to something that is different than what I would get by going to the .com site is a victory. The unique content (and unique mobis) will come from non established developers.

 

[000]

Well said. I think that .mobi haters (or, should I say, dislikers, Jeff? :red are having a hard time justifying their contempt for .mobi right now because more and more companies are adopting it...so the whole "But it redirects to the .com!!" argument is just a dying attempt at sticking a knife into .mobi. Unfortunetely for them, its armor is thickening every day with announcements such as Accuweather.mobi!

 

[gemulder]

Now we are talking!

 

[scandiman]

I totally agree, the "redirect is bad" argument is pretty lame and getting lamer. All that matters is what is the front door because that is the brand being publicized.

 

[cac14850]

still waiting to hear why this is a bad thing....

 

[circa1850]

go to boroughs.mobi
go to en-route.mobi
go to fux.mobi
go to bmw.mobi

If you are using your PC, they will still work.

Now use your phone.

go out of state, take your phone. Trust me, leave the laptop. Go coast to coast.

go to en-route.mobi on your phone. What are you looking for? where do you want to go? what do you want to eat? What is the weather where you are going?

Now, do that on your phone on something like msnbc.com.

See how long the pages load. See how much you have to scroll. See how long you have to go to each individual request.

Now tell me why you want to use a .com on your cell phone.

 

[seanboy]

The "mobile" version of msn.mobi is pretty cool, and like the PC version, it doesn't forward to the .com.

 

[Jeff]

:hi:

Some of the more experienced and balanced folks here in the #1 Namepros .MOBI Forum™ have posted already regarding this "stand-alone" issue! :wave:

The .MOBI was supposed to be all about unique and compelling mobile content - and building out of the all-important "ecosystem" - on developed websites! :gl: :yell:

Repeatedly, I've given huge amounts of credit to those developing their .MOBI's here in the .MOBI Forum™ ... but, really, who amongst these recently posted "BiG News" / Hype threads is actually developing in this manner? They're not, as generally speaking ... they are merely FORWARDING / POINTING their undeveloped .MOBI's >>> to their existing .COM's! The .MOBI is an unnecessary extension and time is not on its side, IMHO. Mobile compliant pages are being developed and branded on existing .COM sites every day. Emerging technologies with regard to key device detection also does not bode well for the - and they are far behind on this aspect, as well - branding of the .MOBI extension!

At the heart of the matter ....

So how do you get corporations to develop websites for an extension that really serves no purpose? I think thats the question we need to answer. Because until .mobi serves a purpose, it's just another vanity extension that will only be registered by speculators and corporations as a defensive measure. And apparently neither one of those groups are willing to develop...

All the credit in the world to Slip for above ... I believe it sums it up pretty succinctly for all of us with a vested interest (past, present, and future) in the .MOBI, IMHO. Let's add the question of "stand-alone" developed corporate .MOBI websites to the list for mTLD, Pinky, et al. for their next visit here to the .MOBI Forum© ... shall we? :gl: :talk:

All that matters is what is the front door because that is the brand being publicized.

^ This is good for "news" / H.Y.P.E. threads here, but not substantial or meaningful for a truly developed, unique & compelling mobile content ... in an .MOBI "ecosystem", IMHO.

Have a great domain name day, friends.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

time will give us the answers. not ANYONE else.

on one hand some people say itll take "12-15 years IMHO" for the .mobi extention to be adapted by the masses (if it is adapted at all)... now not enough is happening in the short 8 months its been out, the big companies are doing it all wrong with forwards to the .com's, etc..

doom and gloom... boom boom..

so really which one is it?


i dont know, and neither does anyone else... the major speculation is over, now its time to wait and see, and stop repeating the same old tiring crap that nobody has anwers to..

 

[Jeff]

i dont know, and neither does anyone else... the major speculation is over, now its time to wait and see, and stop repeating the same old tiring crap that nobody has anwers to..

I agree with the first part ... NOBODY knows how things will shake out, whether 1, 3, 5, 12 - 15, 25, 100+ years! :yell:

Disagree on your last part, though ... as I think it's great that we can ALL share differing thoughts and opinions on any subject, .MOBI or otherwise IMHO. If one is tired or ("tiring crap") frustrated (with knowing full well that no one - as agreed above - has answers to / can predict the future), they should either stop reading and posting here, or perhaps go elsewhere! :blink: :imho:

Thanks for understanding.
-Jeff

 

[mjnels]

If one is tired or ("tiring crap") frustrated (with knowing full well that no one - as agreed above - has answers to / can predict the future), they should either stop reading and posting here, or perhaps go elsewhere!

i have a feeling some people might do that... its a shame really.

a real catch 22, ya know?

 

[scandiman]

The .MOBI was supposed to be all about unique and compelling mobile content - and building out of the all-important "ecosystem" - on developed websites! :gl: :yell:

That's your definition Jeff. .Mobi is about content predictably accessible to mobile devices. The assurance of such is via compliance with basic coding standards.

... but, really, who amongst these recently posted "BiG News" / Hype threads is actually developing in this manner? They're not, as generally speaking ... they are merely FORWARDING / POINTING their undeveloped .MOBI's >>> to their existing .COM's!

MSN.mobi has shown the path I think many are taking. This was at first a quick redirect to an existing mobile initiative but the code has been changing over time to msn.mobi url pages.

At the heart of the matter ....

So how do you get corporations to develop websites for an extension that really serves no purpose? I think thats the question we need to answer. Because until .mobi serves a purpose, it's just another vanity extension that will only be registered by speculators and corporations as a defensive measure. And apparently neither one of those groups are willing to develop...

All the credit in the world to Slip for above ... I believe it sums it up pretty succinctly for all of us with a vested interest (past, present, and future) in the .MOBI, IMHO.

I totally agree with you Jeff, the purpose of .mobi is very much at the heart of the matter. If you don't see the purpose of .mobi even after all these many months following its release last year and the discussion many months before it then I believe you will never see it.