advice Spent more than $500 on hand-regs, need some direction please.

[cixxy]

Hi, I'm a designer / web developer new to the domain buying scene. I like the fact that when I buy a cool domain name, there's potential I can develop a website on it myself.

But recently I spent a lot of money on domaining... so I would appreciate if you have some advice or direction for me; or maybe I should just quit domaining because of how bad the regs are?

Also what should I do with keyword domains as Brandbucket doesn't seem to like these.

4xAA.com (keyword)
AceGT.com (brandable)
AgenciesList.com (keyword, will develop this)
AiBoots.com (keyword - nonexistant yet)
Aihance.com (brandable, I like this a lot because of Behance (big site) )
Aitasy.com (brandable)
Brandacular.com (brandable)
BuyHealing.com (keyword)
ClubState.com (brandable)
ColorBackground.com (keyword)
ColorsMeaning.com (keyword)
DanceJumps.com (keyword)
Digery.com (brandable)
Digitalry.com (brandable)
DopamineFunction.com (keyword)
Droneri.com (brandable)
Dronier.com (brandable)
Expertoid.com (brandable)
FeetInches.com (keyword)
FreeAds.io (keyword, will develop this)
Fundega.com (brandable)
GirlOffers.com (keyword)
GuruSonic.com (brandable)
HipsterWallpaper.com (keyword)
HoloShack.com (brandable)
InvestBliss.com (brandable)
KittyStudios.com (brandable)
KpopArtists.com (keyword, developed website)
Limo.kr (keyword)
NorseGoddess.com (keyword + brandable)
MusicPuns.com (keyword)
MusicToSleep.com (keyword, developed website)
Profithance.com (brandable)
ProfitSonic.com (brandable)
RealtorSalary.com (keyword, illegal copyright?)
RoyalOpen.com (brandable, Listed on BrandBucket! http://brandbucket.com/royalopen )
SexWithBoss.com (keyword)
SkillJolt.com (brandable)
SnapXr.com (brandable)
Staresque.com (brandable)
ThePerfectArt.com (brandable)
Upezy.com (brandable)
VeganAlfredo.com (keyword)
VeganFlan.com (keyword)
VeganMeatballs.com (keyword)
VeganSwan.com (brandable)
VegetarianCurry.com (keyword)
YouCosplay.com (brandable)
YouCrystal.com (brandable)
Zenasy.com (brandable)
ZenJolt.com (brandable)

 

[cixxy]

CreditBench and ProfitSonic are live too: https://www.brandbucket.com/profile/leonfresh/

 

[martbele]

Here is my previous post on the same subject :

https://www.namepros.com/threads/how-many-domains-in-your-portfolio.1098200/page-2#post-6878014

Cheers..!

 

[harpo]

Time is the best teacher / after 5 years if you hold it will cost you some bucks { if you dont make a sale } still pretty cheap college domain experience .

 

[cixxy]

Update: Just got offered 800 USD for Block / MX (undeveloped)

Need advice to take it or counter offer , I'll post a thread soon!

https://www.namepros.com/threads/got-a-800-offer-for-block-mx-should-i-counter-or-not.1099406/

 

[domain hacks]

If you are Rick Schwartz and if you opened thread with the domains in your OP everyone would go nuts about those names, saying how you did it again, how it is strange no one else saw these "valuable" names and how you are genius.....but you are not so everyone is telling you to quit.

On the other hand your avatar is a cute blonde girl, so you got fair share of warm approvals and admiration.

Forums can be so predictable, right?

 

[FlipperC]

VeganAlfredo.com (keyword)
VeganFlan.com (keyword)
VeganMeatballs.com (keyword)
VeganSwan.com (brandable)

VEGAN domains suck. ask @DomainShane and he'll tell you the same thing. he makes fun of them on every tv show he does!

I mean their staff could just register the domain before you get it.

if they did that, they'd be out of business yesterday. they canb be trusted. I use them.

PS. I don't think this is a good time to ask online because there's a very high chance someone would buy it if it's any good :P I'm using Namerific and Brandbucket submission now for doubtful names.

you need some trusted friends in the industry that you can text with and ask for an opinion. don't trust your gut until you can trust it, and you can't yet.

 

[cixxy]

VEGAN domains suck. ask @DomainShane and he'll tell you the same thing. he makes fun of them on every tv show he does!



if they did that, they'd be out of business yesterday. they canb be trusted. I use them.



you need some trusted friends in the industry that you can text with and ask for an opinion. don't trust your gut until you can trust it, and you can't yet.

Veganism is always on the rise, currently at 800k monthly searches and going up, showing no signs of stopping. https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=vegan,/m/0vpj4_b

So your reasoning is because 1 person said they suck, therefore it does?

But yeah you're right about the friends part.

 

[vravis9]

Fair enough. Just make sure you do let a bunch drop - don't renew them all or you're throwing good money after bad.


Yeah, I think you need to understand/consider the difference between a domain for re-sale and a domain for development. There is no value in these domains for re-sale. But sure - if you're going to develop these into sites, they have value. But in that case the value is in the content not the domain. Everyone knows that content is king in SEO. So the domain name matters less than the content. Consider your domain ColorsMeaning.com. I have personally looked up the meanings of certain colours at times - the content on the site was important to me and of course Google did its job on finding me that content. It didn't matter much what the domain name was. Of course if I wanted to build a site with this content then your domain name would be decent and may slightly aid SEO. But in terms of reselling that domain name think about the tiny number of people who are your market. VeganAlfredo might be a handy little niche since Vegan is big these days. But again, the resale possibilities for the domain are tiny. The content for a niche like that is where it's at. If you are definitely going to develop a site on it keep it, otherwise drop it. But as @MetBob has mentioned there are only so many sites you can develop/maintain. Once again - distinguish the difference between names for re-sale and names for dev. Then work out which you definitely have the time to develop.

Very good suggestions from you...
A great explanation relation between...domain-content-seo

Thank you very much for your valuable suggestions...

 

[Marco Alvarez]

Interesting that all your sold ones are madeup one words... but they are indeed strong.

Pretty damn awesome what they did with that name, never thought IQ would be related to AI tech. And thanks again for the help in the PMs, and sharing your thought process in making your BB names.

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Btw I just impulse bought Woman.com.co for $7 reg fee without doing much research on it. Just a quick google for the namepros com.co thoughts. Did a quick Namebio search as well and the figures are good.

I had to snag it before anyone else since it was listed on ExpiredDomains.

It's a gamble but I think this is a good gamble to take.

Worst case I thought it's a woman's magazine or shop in Columbia, right?

Also just got Lit.mx

Think my luck is changing.

A woman mag in Columbia would probably be mujer.com.co, Spanish is their main language. And .com.co is like heavily used by people from Columbia only. So an English name in that extension is gonna be a tough sell. I am no expert like some of the people on here I guess but I do pretty well. When I first started 3 years ago though at 1 point my portfolio got to like 1600 domains. I wasted a crap ton of money and the majority of my domains expired or I deleted on purpose. I got lucky because I invested in a lot of expired domain auctions and some premium 4l.com's. Those pulled me out and helped me make some profit despite having to let so many handregs go. Now I sell 1-3 domains a month in the 300-2500 range. Haven't had any major sales except for a 5k one a while back but steady 2-3 sales a month keeps me going. I have a couple major pointers I would like to point out from what I have learned in my mistakes.

*Get in cheap and be a realist- if you purchased domain that you know has no big end user potential but you might be able to make $5+ profit on it flipping it to another domainer then it is a winner. Do that x10 times a week and that's $200 at least a month
*learn who your audience is -when you are looking at a domain, think to yourself who would want this. If I was a business in that would I want this? Is this keyword or idea trending? would another domainer be interested in it? I is easier to sell to domainers because they are speculators like you.
*Starting out I would stick to .com only - other extensions sell but they are much harder to learn how to value them. e.g some extensions are popular with certain groups, industries, countries.
*Research what keywords are selling frequently - I cannot stress this enough, some keywords just sell. eg. crypto, bet,
*stick to two words or less - some domains with more words sell but not often enough, as other people have stated before me. The value is in the eye of the buyer. Some people buy crappy names for a lot of money. I work for a big domain company so I see it all the time.
*appraisals are DANGEROUS - These appraisal tools should come with a warning. I have had many clients spend 20k plus on domains I know will be extremely hard to sell just because an appraisal tool came back with a 1k plus appraisal.
*almost any name can sell - You just have to either be early to the idea and give it time to simmer (others to develop business ideas around it thus increasing the value.) so do your research. But don't get carried away because if you are too early to the idea (years ahead) your renewals will be unsustainable since they will take forever to sell. Otherwise you have to try to get in super super cheap so you can off load it to another domainer and still try to make a profit. Sometimes I purchase domains with the sole purpose of selling them to other domainers and I know many people on here do the same.
*different domainers have different models- many domainers have different business approaches and models. Learn them all so you can learn better how to value a domain when buying either to sell to resellers or end users. However, not all models are super successful, some domainers on here think they are better than what they actually are. I have seen some selling some really really crappy names that make no sense. I always tell myself "maybe they got them free or something". Hopefully lol.. anyway that is some of the stuff that works for me. Oh and 1 big one I don't normally share but has worked wonders for me. Use a name generator for hand reg lists then curate your list based on what sells, how they sound, if they make sense, hot keywords and narrow them down to a small list. Name generators help because they give you ideas you wouldn't think of otherwise.
*Stick to niches/areas you know- unless you do very thorough research.

By the way, for encouragement. I have sold handregs in the 500-1000 range in 2017 and 2018 within a month of registering them.
Anyway good luck
-Marco

 

[ThatDomainGuy]

The shame is that for what you have spent to register all these undesirable domains, you could have purchased 1 or 2 decent domains through an auction or even NP. It's much better to have 1 good quality domain than 50 poor ones. You should definitely spend more time reading and researching before purchasing more.

its really on for you or the next person to say ? who could possibly be interested in one if not a few of her created domain names? Just my thought.
Concept goes a long way in the world. Only way to Concept is to Conceive. Failure is a must. It will happen. Whats to say the Domain you bought for $2300 doesn't tank and sell for a 80% loss. You see it all the time on the listings. Im seeing s great amount of sales being generated by and with ORIGINAL content. Its what makes the world go round. Believe in your concepts , conceive ideas and create with them. Education is key to success ! Learn and stay positive. It's a forum. Not a crystal ball. JMT...
Cheers

 

[ThatDomainGuy]

A woman mag in Columbia would probably be mujer.com.co, Spanish is their main language. And .com.co is like heavily used by people from Columbia only. So an English name in that extension is gonna be a tough sell. I am no expert like some of the people on here I guess but I do pretty well. When I first started 3 years ago though at 1 point my portfolio got to like 1600 domains. I wasted a crap ton of money and the majority of my domains expired or I deleted on purpose. I got lucky because I invested in a lot of expired domain auctions and some premium 4l.com's. Those pulled me out and helped me make some profit despite having to let so many handregs go. Now I sell 1-3 domains a month in the 300-2500 range. Haven't had any major sales except for a 5k one a while back but steady 2-3 sales a month keeps me going. I have a couple major pointers I would like to point out from what I have learned in my mistakes.

*Get in cheap and be a realist- if you purchased domain that you know has no big end user potential but you might be able to make $5+ profit on it flipping it to another domainer then it is a winner. Do that x10 times a week and that's $200 at least a month
*learn who your audience is -when you are looking at a domain, think to yourself who would want this. If I was a business in that would I want this? Is this keyword or idea trending? would another domainer be interested in it? I is easier to sell to domainers because they are speculators like you.
*Starting out I would stick to .com only - other extensions sell but they are much harder to learn how to value them. e.g some extensions are popular with certain groups, industries, countries.
*Research what keywords are selling frequently - I cannot stress this enough, some keywords just sell. eg. crypto, bet,
*stick to two words or less - some domains with more words sell but not often enough, as other people have stated before me. The value is in the eye of the buyer. Some people buy crappy names for a lot of money. I work for a big domain company so I see it all the time.
*appraisals are DANGEROUS - These appraisal tools should come with a warning. I have had many clients spend 20k plus on domains I know will be extremely hard to sell just because an appraisal tool came back with a 1k plus appraisal.
*almost any name can sell - You just have to either be early to the idea and give it time to simmer (others to develop business ideas around it thus increasing the value.) so do your research. But don't get carried away because if you are too early to the idea (years ahead) your renewals will be unsustainable since they will take forever to sell. Otherwise you have to try to get in super super cheap so you can off load it to another domainer and still try to make a profit. Sometimes I purchase domains with the sole purpose of selling them to other domainers and I know many people on here do the same.
*different domainers have different models- many domainers have different business approaches and models. Learn them all so you can learn better how to value a domain when buying either to sell to resellers or end users. However, not all models are super successful, some domainers on here think they are better than what they actually are. I have seen some selling some really really crappy names that make no sense. I always tell myself "maybe they got them free or something". Hopefully lol.. anyway that is some of the stuff that works for me. Oh and 1 big one I don't normally share but has worked wonders for me. Use a name generator for hand reg lists then curate your list based on what sells, how they sound, if they make sense, hot keywords and narrow them down to a small list. Name generators help because they give you ideas you wouldn't think of otherwise.
*Stick to niches/areas you know- unless you do very thorough research.

By the way, for encouragement. I have sold handregs in the 500-1000 range in 2017 and 2018 within a month of registering them.
Anyway good luck
-Marco

Awesome response !
Honesty goes a long way. I feel you responded honest and up front , which was great because you have learnt threw education and by process of doing. Congrats on your sales btw ! Id be stoked.
I created a large number of domains right off the bat. Im ok with that. Im like 8 days into my new Domain Career. Completely content and aware of having to re-new and etc to maintain them. Again , ok with that for at least a year. Success does not happen over night. It can , it does but truth really goes the distance. Who's to say what Works and What doesn't ? There's Billion Dollar Corps with names the best of you would have never thought of. And most, would likely have passed on the chance to even purchase them.
You might have flipped before. But most are not creating them. Its not impossible. Its an Open Game. Not many rules to this shoot out, is there ? You can by Education , Data , Analysis either greaten or decrease the chances you have of actually selling Either a Created or Recently Traded domain.
Thanks for the advice in yo post ! I know ive created some major players. Im confident in my creations. I have to be.

 

[NYJimbo]

I created a large number of domains right off the bat. Im ok with that. Im like 8 days into my new Domain Career.

Don't get too stoked. You are counting days right now, but you might end up counting weeks or months before a sale. We all get into this with a fistful of domains and stars in our eyes. But a month or two goes by and you are staring at those domains and there is a rain cloud over your head.

As others said, stick to .com's for now. If you can, learn about domain expires and how to research them. Dabble in closeouts or snaps when you see something that looks really good. But don't get too pumped up because you will crash hard if you don't move any of your portfolio for a while and you might end up hating this game.

 

[ThatDomainGuy]

Don't get too stoked. You are counting days right now, but you might end up counting weeks or months before a sale. We all get into this with a fistful of domains and stars in our eyes. But a month or two goes by and you are staring at those domains and there is a rain cloud over your head.

As others said, stick to .com's for now. If you can, learn about domain expires and how to research them. Dabble in closeouts or snaps when you see something that looks really good. But don't get too pumped up because you will crash hard if you don't move any of your portfolio for a while and you might end up hating this game.

Got to swing the bat to play. I understand the risks involved. Not my first new venture. Risk is the obvious.

 

[FlipperC]

So your reasoning is because 1 person said they suck, therefore it does?

Hahaha! No, definitely not. Show me that they don't suck, that they're selling for $1,000+ to end users, and I'll eat my hat. They're trendy so investors are buying them, but where r the end user sales? Prove me wrong!

 

[Ollie3000]

I like RoyalOpen/com sounds like a Golf or Tennis tournament. That's worth £xxxx IMO

Dev wise, you can make money without the domain being worth money, if you have a game plan. But hand reg is a seriously addictive game. Check through expireddomains.net, I've picked some gems in there.

 

[weblord]

these last two
Zenasy.com (brandable)
ZenJolt.com (brandable)
try selling them to Nancy Radlinger
owner of zaneyclicks.com
imho good for a traffic exchanger which is in the line of business of Ms. Nancy

 

[toughdomains]

great start try listing them on as many marketplaces as possible. and def connect make an offer pages to each.

 

[sam123]

Don't quit. Stop registering domains. Read the numerous posts in this forum for beginners. Read them again. Buy domains that businesses will find real value in (not what you think is cool, or what you think you will develop - you never will).

 

[weblord]

it doesn't mean that you need to acquire a lot of domains being a domainer, the more you keep is the more you're in bankrupt for me, but the more you sell, the proof of being a domainer is not in the buying but in the selling

 

[Cdomains]

The shame is that for what you have spent to register all these undesirable domains, you could have purchased 1 or 2 decent domains through an auction

Yup!!

You need to study some more before you blow any more $$ on sh*t names.