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Purchase Price: $1260

Sell Price : $13,000

Escrow.com concierge (Buyer paid fees)

Hold Time: 11 Months

I do not post 90% my sales. But this one was really interesting one and unique one. So I thought let me share my thought about it with all of friends here on Namepros. I learned a lot from friends here on namepros. So I consider it as my duty to share with all of you if I learned something new. I strongly believe I let go this name for less than it can fetch considering magnitude of this name. So broad and appealing. But profit is profit end of the day. Hahahaah

  • I won name from Godaddy expired auction for $1260. I really liked the name and almost thought about it to keep as my parent company name ( I had 2/3 other names too for parent company name).
  • Listed at Sedo, Flippa from the day I received name in my account. I should have listed at other places too like Afternic. But I never thought about selling it so never listed multiple places.
  • In December 2017 I decided to move some of my names to Undeveloped until I have my own portfolio site. I like Undeveloped because of no junk ad plus nice and clean offer page.
  • Listed this name on Undeveloped on first week of December 2017.
  • January 31st 2018 I received offer of €1,000.
  • Little negotiation via message board in Undeveloped and we decided to agree the deal for $10,000
  • 2/3 days and no payment.
  • I messaged Undeveloped to find out what is going on. They said Buyer having hard time sending wire transfer to their bank because his bank is not feeling comfortable to send wire outside USA.
  • Little communication back and forth with Undeveloped by me as well as buyer. Team of Undeveloped having hard time with buyer due to his bank not willing to send Wire outside USA. Undeveloped give him multiple choice but none of them worked out and deal got cancelled. Undeveloped team suggest me to deal with this gentleman only and only via reputed Escrow services. I am very thankful to Undeveloped for that extra care towards seller even deal got cancelled.
  • Buyer contacted me immediately via text after deal got cancelled in Undeveloped.
  • I called buyer to his phone number to find out what went wrong. That is first time I got to know who the interested buyer was.
  • Buyer said he is interested to buy the name. I told him the deal got cancelled because of your Bank's inability to send wire transfer. Buyer said His Bank may send wire to locally (USA). I told him Escrow.com is the best and only solution but give me sometime to think about it because deal on Undeveloped got cancelled because of buyer's bank's inability to send wire.
  • I thought about few hours. I was literally 50%-50% and not sure if buyer legit or not.
  • I did my little research on namebio to see what Digital+Keyword as well as Keyword+Global average historical sales price. I found range around $15K-$20K.
  • I thought let me share my true feelings with interested buyer before we initiate new deal via Escrow.com instead of lie to him like I got new offer from someone with higher offer bla bla bla. I thought I did all my deal with honesty to lets stick to that path without any different thought. It is very easy to lie but it require lots of courage to stick to right path. But believe me right path show us correct direction even road is very challenging.
  • I called buyer same evening (after 3-4 hours) and shared what I feel about name and what it worth if we compare to historical sales of similar names. I shared true feeling and said to buyer that I think actual worth of name is different so I leave it upto you. Buyer said he will do $13K max and he take care of Escrow.com fees. We agree to new terms and price before we initiate new transaction via Escrow.com.
  • Buyer was aware of Escrow.com but never did transaction this high in past via Escrow.com
  • I help him understand their escrow.com concierge service and request him to use that option for peace of mind for both because in escrow.com concierge service. Name gets transferred to Escrow.com account and they release fund right away once they receive name in their account. Then name gets transferred from Escrow.com account to buyer's account. This service cost little extra but it is worth it when we do Five figure or higher transaction. Its extra layer of protection.
  • We initiated transaction in escrow.com using concierge service.
  • Weekend start. So we waited for 3 days.
  • Monday I called buyer to find out what is going on and asked him let me know if I can help out anyway. Again Buyer's bank says no to wire transfer. Buyer said give him some time and he may go to different bank to see if any other bank can help him wire money to Escrow.com.
  • Buyer got tired after hearing no from all bank for wire transfer.
  • Buyer requested Escrow.com to see if they accept Cashier's check or Money order or Personal check. Escrow.com said they do not accept those. It was very strange because I found out that on their website they says they accept those as alternate payment method. See here it still says. https://www.escrow.com/domains
  • Please visit above link and you will find following line under buyer's benefits "Ability to pay by wire transfer and in some cases PayPal, check, money order, or credit card "
  • I also talked to Escrow.com to find out how they will help us closing this deal. At that moment they were keep telling me different stuff which literally does not match what their acceptable payment method present on the site which is still present.
  • I talked to Escrow.com customer support to help buyer as much as I can to close the deal because I knew buyer never did this kind of transaction in past so he do not know. As a seller it is our duty to help buyer as much as we can.
  • We are not getting anywhere. My brain says so many red flags because how on earth bank can say no to wire transfer our money??? But my heart says buyer is legit who do not know so many things about how to do this type of transaction.
  • Buyer got tired and offered me to drive half distance and me driving half distance to seal the deal. I said let me think about it.
  • Again My brain says so many red flags because how on earth bank can say no to wire transfer our money??? But my heart says buyer is legit who do not know so many things about how to do this type of transaction.
  • We were not getting anywhere because we were not getting proper help from anywhere. We almost decided to cancel transaction again. Buyer also contacted Escrow.com to cancel transaction. But Escrow.com said they can't cancel until they get confirmation from seller.
  • I found out what is policy of Escrow.com. I learned deal automatically get cancelled if buyer do not submit payment in 2 or 3 weeks.
  • I told buyer lets keep trying. I told him I am not going to cancel the deal from my side because I am ready to do everything from my side to close the deal. The ball is in your court and I am ready to help you as much as I can.
  • Buyer kept trying with various banks and not getting proper help from banks.
  • We also decided to cancel current transaction and create new transaction with Escrow Domain Holding service where you can get choice to submit multiple payments after first payment gets submitted via Wire.
  • I tried to learned what is Escrow Domain Holding service and how it works. I also contacted their customer support to find out what if buyer pay initial small payment via Wire and remaining payment via Moneyorder (USPS Moneyorder)??? We never get satisfactory answer from Escrow.com customer support regarding that because they never said yes that is possible. I asked them we are trying to minimize lose to both party and try to understand your system before creating new transaction. But no satisfactory answers.
  • I kept trying various options but I was firm to close deal via Escrow.com only and no other option. I learned Escrow.com do not have lots of clarity from their side too. They should have clear cut transparent policy which one can understand very easily.
  • I regularly call buyer every evening to see what is current status.
  • On one evening I was communicating to buyer and listening to understand why his bank saying no to wire transfer. Buyer said " Bank do not know why they are transferring money??? To whom?? Is this for Drugs or some illegal activity"???
  • I told buyer why bank has confusion?? Please let your bank understand what Escrow.com is. Please show your bank our agreement on Escrow.com that we are trading digital asset and you are paying to get digital asset transferred to your account after payment. I told buyer to show all documents to your bank. I told them please let your bank know that Escrow.com is licensed escrow services who completed $3 Billion worth of transaction.
  • Buyer showed all those documents to bank. Bank transferred those docs with explanation letter from buyer to higher authority. They approve everything including agree to Wire fund to Escrow.com account.
  • Bangggggggggg
  • Money received in Escrow. I transferred name to Escrow.com account. They released fund to me as soon as they received money in their account. Then name get transferred to buyer.

My intention to share about this transaction is only and only because we can learn from each other. Sharing is caring.

  • Its very challenging to walk on right path. But my tiny little experience says it works.
  • Always share your honest feelings and facts to buyer regardless of he knows the market or not.
  • Always care about people around us. Honesty is the best way to move forward in life by keeping right intention in center of our action.
  • Do not wait for buyer's willingness to do something. We as a seller must take 1st steps or as many steps possible to help buyer as much as we can.
  • Please get involve with buyer to decrease his burden by helping him as much as we can.

Special Thanks to @Undeveloped . I truly believe their special customer support is something special. They care for their member. At least I experienced it.

I also love Escrow.com because they worked really well for me. I have no personal complain against them as well.

You are most welcome to share your thought about this transaction so we all can learn something from each other.

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So interesting scenario in play they could have acquired Digital.Global with 10 years renewal added for $4,900

I think the .com is the better investment, and for traffic, and marketing purposes, but they could have saved 2/3, but they made the right call.

Buyer never had 2nd thought other than actual name. I showed him couple of my other Digital+Keyword names but he wanted only this name.

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Thank you for the detailed report ) Quite a dramatic sale ))

Hahahaahah.. I agree dear friend. It was such dramatic sale. It was little roller coaster ride. Hahaahah

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Great sale! Thank you for sharing the full story. It sure was a bumpy ride.

I happen to hold a similar domain, 2-word ending in global, first word is comparable in value/scope. It makes me feel hopeful to see a nice flip like this.
 
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Congratulations @TERADOMAIN , and thank you for the time you took to share the full story :)
 
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Great sale! Thank you for sharing the full story. It sure was a bumpy ride.

I happen to hold a similar domain, 2-word ending in global, first word is comparable in value/scope. It makes me feel hopeful to see a nice flip like this.

Thanks for sharing your view.

Thanks for sharing your name with me in PM. Your name has very good potential too.

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Afternic.com

Undeveloped.com

Sedo.com

Flippa.com

And many other marketplaces where we can list our domains. We can keep "Make offer" on all platform.

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Great sale and thank you for sharing!

What is the reason you use "make offer" on all platforms? Is it to avoid the situation where a name is bought at BIN on two different platforms, or do you find it a better sales strategy?
 
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Great sale and thank you for sharing!

What is the reason you use "make offer" on all platforms? Is it to avoid the situation where a name is bought at BIN on two different platforms, or do you find it a better sales strategy?

Thanks for sharing your view.

I chose to keep 1 BIN at 1 place because it is rare but possible that someone may buy if multiple BIN at various place. I never kept multiple BIN at multiple platforms. Few months ago 1 incident happened.

I sold single word .net via Escrow.com .... I always remove BIN from the platform I set before I initiate transaction. Here on Escrow.com buyer paid but waiting for approval from Escrow side. I got 3 times bigger initial offer on Flippa from a member whose reputation was really good (There is possibility of more upside too because 3 times bigger offer was only an initial offer). I do honor my deal. So I did not respond to Flippa and conveyed that message to the buyer who paid through Escrow.com. I told him there is interested buyer who submitted better offer. I asked him if he wants to go ahead then I can negotiate deal on your behalf. I told him he has to pay 20% commission on top of our agreed deal via Escrow.com. He said his expectation is 20 times. I asked him couple times are you sure?? He said yes. I said ok no problem. I rejected deal in Flippa and buyer got his name.

Now if I have BIN and open transaction in Escrow then there is possibility that 2 different buyer buys same name if multiple BIN at multiple place.

I also had other way around experience where I was buyer. I still have all proof against that so called member. He may be here as well on Namepros.

I bought 1 nice CVCV via Escrow.com I submitted payment. I am tier 2 verified member of Escrow.com. For some reason Escrow.com took almost 4+ days (2 days was weekend) and still payment was not verified for some reason. I contacted Escrow.com several time to expedite process. I asked them let me know if you need anything. I had some feeling that seller may change his mind because deal was good. He ran that name on Flippa but unsold due to high reserve. Suddenly I receive message from seller that He sold name to someone else on Flippa because he forget to cancel sent offer to multiple people after auction unsold. I had all proof that our Escrow.com deal initiated before. Even Seller accepted his fault and apologized to me. Seller said Flippa forced him to sell name to the buyer who accepted his offer via Flippa. I had all proof that seller lying to me and he represented fake story to me because Flippa buyer is my friend too. I asked him everything and he shared everything with timestamp. I told him good choice. It was not his mistake because seller never told him that the same name already in pending deal in Escrow.com where buyer submitted payment but waiting for Escrow.com approval. I exposed him completely via our conversation in Skype. He apologized to me. I said it is ok but please have some ethics and moral in life and please dont do this again with other people. I think he is member here too.

So in short I had couple different experience as buyer or seller. So I always make sure to keep only 1 bin on a 1 platform only. I always make sure to remove BIN before I initiate transaction in Escrow.com or DN.com

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Good read. Thanks for sharing.
 
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Normally, it such a situation seller can panic and drop price to gain the sale, but, you kept the course and also gain some edification concerning the magnitude of the domain sale. This even allowed the buyer to realize the value of the sale and offered to pay more, Excellent work! I love it...(y)
 
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Wow! Congrats mate. Thanks for taking your time to share this experience.
 
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Hi
Did you create a sale page on undeveloped?
 
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great detail on sale wish more people shared this kind of info...congrats
 
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Great sale, Congratulations! and Thank you for sharing the full story with details.
 
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Hi
Did you create a sale page on undeveloped?

Thanks for asking.

Yes name was on Undeveloped with Make offer . Lead came through that. Deal was initiated but got cancelled there so opened new deal in Escrow

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Amazing stuff. Congrats, and thanks a ton for spending so much time for such a valuable lesson!
 
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Normally, it such a situation seller can panic and drop price to gain the sale, but, you kept the course and also gain some edification concerning the magnitude of the domain sale. This even allowed the buyer to realize the value of the sale and offered to pay more, Excellent work! I love it...(y)

Me and buyer both knew that buyer is getting a good deal and at same time I am also making good ROI. I was more confident that this name worth in $XX,XXX so I never doubt even a single time what happened if this deal don't go through. So I renegotiate rather than anything else.

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Superb sale. Congratulation.
 
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Congrats Tera! Well deserved
 
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