question Roulette.com - Why appraisals so high?

[ThatNameGuy]

Roulette.com

@ Nameworth - 6M
@ Estibot - 4M
@ SAW - 7.9M

 

[ThatNameGuy]

None, of us would debate their are alternatives but their is only one .com for it. .COM is king. the bad part about doing the .casino is some might not remember it in my opinion a domain which has been taken since 1998 roulettecasino(.)com is a lot better than roulette.casino. Dictionary .coms without 'ed' 'ing' 's' 'er' are rare. These are apples and oranges, if you have experience to sell non-.com's go for it but if you want to sell more stick with .com.

Only industry "insiders" know what you know Daniel. Even Verisign, despite being the originator of everything .com, knows what I know. Do you remember this from Verisign Daniel?

"But there is also an unregulated secondary market – led by domain speculators – hiding in plain sight. There, some speculators buy domain names at regulated low prices, then sell them at a far higher price. This secondary market is as old as the domain name system itself. However, since the wholesale price cap was imposed on .com in 2012, the secondary market has expanded in ways that exploit consumers."

Do you know what is meant by "exploit consumers"?

 

[Daniel Owens]

Only industry "insiders" know what you know Daniel. Even Verisign, despite being the originator of everything .com, knows what I know. Do you remember this from Verisign Daniel?

"But there is also an unregulated secondary market – led by domain speculators – hiding in plain sight. There, some speculators buy domain names at regulated low prices, then sell them at a far higher price. This secondary market is as old as the domain name system itself. However, since the wholesale price cap was imposed on .com in 2012, the secondary market has expanded in ways that exploit consumers."

Do you know what is meant by "exploit consumers"?

Stick to .com.

 

[biggie]

i researched it to learn an independent appraisers valuation,

Hi

once you went to roulett.xxxx...
then the jig was up.


imo...

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Stick to .com.

What? and exploit end users? Russian Roulette would be way more satisfying.

 

[Matty W.]

Brad....with regards to "Supply and Demand".....having majored in Economics in college I probably understand supply and demand better than most NamePros members. What you FAIL to realize is that when a particular .com is unavailable for a plethora of reasons, actual alternatives do exist.

Accordingly there's minimal demand for Roulette.com, however there are real alternatives. Just go to Roulette.Casino if you don't believe me.

Since you majored in Economics, you should also be aware that although a substitute does shift the demand curve slightly - an alternative in the domain space does not act as a 1:1 replica.

The demand for any dictionary word .com domain is extremely high, and although you may not agree, the fact is that for companies, having a .com is associated with legitimacy, and a symbol of power. It is why so many companies invest in 6-7 figure domains (Standard Chartered with sc.com, Close with close.com, DuckDuckGo with duck.com) - even though alternatives are commercially available, alternative TLDs do not allow them to reap the same benefits.

As for the value of Roulette.com, the appraisals you put are conservative in my opinion. The online gambling industry alone is worth 88.65 billion US dollars (GNW) - with a CAGR of 8-10% per annum on average. The term 'Roulette' is instantaneously associated with gambling, and moving your online gambling website onto the domain would certainly be a wise investment when you consider SEO benefits, brand-ability (TM's may be particularly hard), and the fact that it will be associated with authenticity since no one would invest millions into a domain to try and steal $20 off of your bet. For a high in starting capital company looking to enter such a populated market, this would be a no-brainer & I can easily see this selling for mid-7 figures with the right buyer, but as always, sales take time & to be frank, there is a small number of people and companies who are able to pour such large amounts on creating a digital identity.

However, I'm not really sure why you're concerned about whether they have an active landing page or not. The owner of Roulette.com may either not be interested in selling the domain, or might just be unbothered about selling it - since having an intangible asset of such high value, likely means you have enough money to live without having to stress much about money.

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Since you majored in Economics, you should also be aware that although a substitute does shift the demand curve slightly - an alternative in the domain space does not act as a 1:1 replica.

The demand for any dictionary word .com domain is extremely high, and although you may not agree, the fact is that for companies, having a .com is associated with legitimacy, and a symbol of power. It is why so many companies invest in 6-7 figure domains (Standard Chartered with sc.com, Close with close.com, DuckDuckGo with duck.com) - even though alternatives are commercially available, alternative TLDs do not allow them to reap the same benefits.

As for the value of Roulette.com, the appraisals you put are conservative in my opinion. The online gambling industry alone is worth 88.65 billion US dollars - with a CAGR of 8-10% per annum on average. The term 'Roulette' is instantaneously associated with gambling, and moving your online gambling website onto the domain would certainly be a wise investment when you consider SEO benefits, brand-ability (TM's may be particularly hard), and the fact that it will be associated with authenticity since no one would invest millions into a domain to try and steal $20 off of your bet. For a high in starting capital company looking to enter such a populated market, this would be a no-brainer & I can easily see this selling for mid-7 figures with the right buyer, but as always, sales take time & to be frank, there is a small number of people and companies who are able to pour such large amounts on creating a digital identity.

However, I'm not really sure why you're concerned about whether they have an active landing page or not. The owner of Roulette.com may either not be interested in selling the domain, or might just be unbothered about selling it - since having an intangible asset of such high value, likely means you have enough money to live without having to stress much about money.

Thanks........you are very perceptive and thank you so much for your response. I can't disagree much with anything you said. However, your comment about my being "concerned about whether they have an active landing page" doesn't properly describe my feeling.......my comment was more about curiosity than concern.

Some of your other comments lead me to believe there's a possibility Roulette.com may never be sold, at least not in our lifetime. How so? An acquaintance of mine is in the classic automobile business and despite being very successful, he owns one particular classic he's had for over 40 years that no amount of money would entice him to sell. It's information like this that make viable alternatives for Roulette.com even more valuable.

Thanks again and I sincerely appreciate your words of wisdom

 

[ThatNameGuy]

Hi

once you went to roulett.xxxx...
then the jig was up.


imo...

i guess you've never heard of "comparables" in real estate either?