domain repour.com

[gdave]

Please appraise repour.com


It is a little-used word but I thought it might be used by a beverage company or as an abreviation such as "represent our". Did I waste my money?

Thanks.

 

[gdave]

OK, I haven't had appraisals so I went to GoDaddy.

I got their $5 electronic computer appraisal very quickly and it was higher than I expected. I also upgraded ($10 more) to their real-person "certified" appraisal and will have to wait a few days on that.

Later, I will be posting both GoDaddy appraisals here for anyone interested. In the meantime please either give me a real proposal or if you wish guess what either of the GoDaddy appraisals are before I post them.

 

[mojojo]

do not trust in payed appraisals...and do not waste your money there.

 

[gdave]

I know it may not be accurate. But I really want to get some kind of idea of what my domain is worth. Is it $10...Is it $100 or even $1000. At least I can get an idea from the guy at GoDaddy. I will assume he will probably be too high. If he says $2000 then maybe I will value it at $700. If he says $200 then I will figure the name is closer to $70.

So far in this thread I have no ideas of what it is worth. I disagree on the waste of money. It's not a waste of money if I REALLY want to have some sort of idea of what it is worth and am willing to pay for that information.

 

[udaych78]

How would u like to use it for?

 

[Dorkside]

How much money did you spend on the domain, if I may ask?

 

[gdave]

I am going to put the domain on NameDrive and put it up for sale. Hopefully it will get enough traffic to pay for the reg fees until it sells. (It has an Overature of 681). If the reg fees can be paid with traffic I can afford to be patient.

Perhaps in the future this 6-letter dictionary word might become part of a major beverage company advertising slogan... "Repour and reap more coffee break pleasure". Or a laid back beverage establishment may want to name themselves "Repour". Or some company may want the abreviation "Rep. Our"

I will later post the value estimated by the GoDaddy computer. It is pretty high and I'm not sure why. That is why I have it here for estimates to see if there is a value in the name I don't understand. What if the computer knows some value in this name I do not understand? That is why I also paid for the human appraisal too.

If I get a chance to sell, I don't want to sell it for $50 when I should be asking $500 or more !

P.S. While I paid $15 for both appraisals, I also got two more .coms registered for an additional $2 each. So even if the GoDaddy appraisal is of zero value I still got two .coms for $10 each--a little above reg fee.

 

[x11joex11]

I will give you an in detail appraisal, give me an hour...

 

[gdave]

Hi Devon,

I got this one for $7.23

Do you have any idea of its value?

Thanks Joex11,

I will be looking forward to your appraisal. Tomorrow I will post what the GoDaddy computer appraised it at. Then in a couple of days I will post the appraisal of the GoDaddy human "Pro". But I put more trust in any appraisals I get on this site!

 

[x11joex11]

**Appraisal**

I'll appraise one domain name if there is a list of my choosing. If you would like more PM me and I wouldn’t mind doing appraisals of this quality for $NP. I only have so much free time you know =).

Appraising: repour.com

I'll appraise using the RVER (Research, Value, (Estimate, Recommendation) Method

Please feel free to use this method when appraising others, if you copy my outline please give me credit by letting people know to visit StateExams.Org. Thanks!

---- Research ----


- Domain Availability - (Using http://domainsite.com)

Domain Availability shows your potential selling power of the domain. If the domain is so popular that people would register even TLD's of lower value, then that shows strong selling power should you decide to sell it on the name alone.

Below is your Availability Report...

repour.com: Taken
repour.net: Available
repour.org: Available
repour.eu: Available
repour.in: Available
repour.biz: Available
repour.info: Available
repour.us: Available
repour.ws: Available
repour.bz: Available
repour.cc: Available
repour.tv: Available
repour.us.com: Available
repour.eu.com: Available
repour.web.com: Available
repour.name: Available
repour.ag: Available
repour.sc: Available
repour.la: Available
repour.hn: Available
repour.cn: Taken
repour.am: Available
repour.fm: Available

(You don't have any good selling points here. You are the only registered user of the name with a TLD, I think the .CN is just an ERROR that it says taken by the way.)

- KeyWord Selector Tool - (Using http://inventory.overture.com/d/searchinventory/suggestion/)

The KeyWord Selector Tool is an awesome utility found at the site listed above for seeing everyday use of keywords or terms. If your term(s) has an everyday use of more then 1,000 searches that will usually raise the value of your name to most people IMHO. I usually grade keywords +$2.50 every 5000 searches done that month for it. The ratio of $2.50 cents every searches is 0.0005

681 repour

(Considering I was expecting 0 searches because of your TLD report, 681 isn't bad for a word I don't even know what it means. I guess I'll find out what it means and why there are searches in the next section.)

Your value here is about $0.34 cents worth of value there. The ratio of $2.50 cents every searches is 0.0005. Multiply that by the keyword overture to get an idea of the exact value. That ratio is determined from my experience in selling and sales I've seen involving overture as the sales pitch, and is open to debate.

- Relevance of Terms(s) [If multiple keyWords, or 3-4 LETTER based] -

If your domain name had multiple keywords this section is the research done to see the different potential meanings your domain name could have and the value IMHO I think would be the best way to sell it on versus others.

(Alright, yours is a one word domain name from what I can tell, or it's saying re-pour, either way I'll consider it one word for this investigation.)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Repour

(According to the dictionary above, it means to pour again. That's not so important though, but at least I verified it is a dictionary word that will raise it's value slightly. Depends how popular this dictionary word is though and the overtures showed some weak searches, but at least it had some searches, that is something to work with.)

(Because I was interested in repour and why so many people would be searching for it? I did some research, I was thinking maybe it was some persons famous last name or maybe it has more value to something else not obvious)

(Also, repouring.com was availble, and if your going to invest in this name you might as well get that also. Wait till the end of this appraisal though to see if you think it's worth while to you.)

(Anyways reason for me saying this is because of this site I found)

http://www.acbio.com/sieverepair.htm

(might be useful as a one word domain to offer repouring services of any kind, and may hold close to equal value as that of your repour.com domain)

(Unfortunately if nothing important come up on the first three pages of google, I probably won't find anything else that it could mean, so it looks like you'll have to sell it based on the value of repouring for things, which may still have value, we'll see...)

(As a courtesy I think we should search the thesaures for similar ways to say the same thing for research later to see if names sold with these terms)

Main Entry: pour
Part of Speech: verb
Definition: flow
Synonyms: cascade, cataract, course, crowd, decant, deluge, discharge, drain, drench, emit, flood, flow, give off, gush, inundate, issue, jet, let flow, proceed, rain, rill, roll, run, rush, sheet, shower, sluice, spew, spill, splash, spout, spring, stream, surge, swarm, teem, throng, void

(I coudn't find any really good Synonyms for pour, and none for repour, so that means all we have to go on is just repour for now, till someone can find me something more, or you do)

(To correclty quantify the value of the relevance of this term requires more research, so I'll explain more about this in the pricing guide later on)

- Google Searches (http://google.com) -

Google Searches shows the use of the word in everyday language and how likely someone is to see the word therefore and consider your name for sale or for personal use. Google searches of multiple terms are done using quotes now to accurately see exact uses of the phrase and just the two terms together.

I've noticed that registered TLD's start to pop up when the google market reaches about 300,000, watch try it yourself! For this reason I place reg value of roughly $5 at every 300,000 occurrences of the keyword, for a ratio of 0.000016666.

Results 11 - 20 of about 19,400 for "repour". (0.32 seconds)

(The market for people seeing this word reflects why there were no registered TLD's except yours as usual. You will see that I'm correct 99% of the time when a name is availble and it's .com and you think it's amazing.)

(Anyways using the ratio your value here is -> $0.32 ~ )


- Sites Found Using the Name (Terms) -

The purpose of this section is to examine sites that use your name. If there are sites already using your name with TLD's of higher or lesser value then yours, your name has good potential selling power to those companies.

(The only sites I found were dictionary sites that list your term what it means, however there was this site...)

http://www.acbio.com/sieverepair.htm

(Maybe you could sell to these guys, have to give you that much credit, so I'll give you some very little + value here, as explained later in the estimate)

– Sales Comparables –

This is new to my appraisal method, but you can use similar domain name sales in estimating the range dollar value of your domain. To a reseller, looking at possible comparable sales of names that are similar can mean a lot to there decision in buying the name on the extra speculative value. This section determines your possible range value, for example,$200+ LOW $XXX or $200 + High $XXX etc…

Low $XXX, is $300 under, Mid $XXX is under $600 but higher then $300, high $XXX is above $600 but under $1000. Same pattern for $XXXX etc.

All the above tells you is; if you hold onto it long enough you have a chance to sell for higher then its real domain value (which I based from the other factors in this appraisal). So the question is, is there a way to predict the time it might take to sell a domain for those extra figures? After all any domain might sell for one million dollars if you waited five hundred years! To do this I try (and you should too), to find as many similar comparable domain sales as possible and find the value they sold at and how long they were on the market for when they sold for this price. Finding about 6 good domain names IMHO will be a good indicator of the time it might take you to sell your domain name for the extra speculative value.

Before you start looking though, it should be clarified what exactly counts as a sales comparable. The best way to do this is point out the key things about your name. Here is a list of some of the important things I’ve noticed that give value to domain names.

Basic Common Features…

- How many characters long are the comparables domains?
- How many keywords do the comparable domains contain?
- If using keywords, does the keyword(s) of the comparable domains contain at least one similar keyword to the domain you’re comparing it against?

Next Most Common Features…

- What kind of overture and google-market did the comparable domains names have?
- How many other TLD’s were registered on the comparable domains?

Once you find some sales comparables that match exactly in basic common features (with the exception of character length for plural versions of names) and then get then filter the list down to the ones that match (the most closest) in the Next Most Common Features (it doesn’t have to be exact, just as close as you can get), and get six of these. After doing this I feel you have a good measure of similar domains for evaluative purposes.

Being a Real Estate Agent myself, when I want to value real property I go through a similar process of finding similar sales and things in common between the properties. Domains should be no different; they are just online real property.

Now once you find decent domains for evaluating correctly, the hard part is getting the information on those domains and finding the time at which they were listed and the time at which the sold. Next most important is how much it sold for. Usually people are quick to jump the gun and just look for the how much it sold for, but IMHO this is a big mistake and will cost you many wasted dollars. IMHO, the most important thing is looking at how long it took to sell the comparable domain names, as this will decide how long you should hold it and if it’s worth it to sell now or wait.

Now all you have to do is take the median of the time taken to sell and the median of the price it sold for to get a speculative range value and time that it will take to potentially sell your domain name for it’s maximum potential value.

Here is what I found for you…

- Using the famous SEDO.COM to look for similar bids...

purepour.com --- 333 $US
rencontre-pour-sexe.com --- Make Offer

These were names that use repour exactly and what they tried to sell for, but they had no bids.

Now normally I'd continue doing research on other Synonyms but if you recall I coudn't find any! So there really isn't any sales comparables to use at all for giving you a maxium range value that I could find anyways.

However, I can search for the word pour alone, and other re- domain names and see what they have bids for. I can calculate the value of there bids, by the minimum bid amount the seller set, and for every bidder after that an increment of 1/4 the starting amount.

searching pour...

Your search returned 170 matching domains:

$1,024 USD for downpour.com, which shows 1 bid.

Now that was the only one I could find, so that is a 1-170 chance potentially that your name with pour in it can receive a bid of $1,024 in theory.

Those aren't really good odds if you ask me. Also it's suspicious that it has a bid without any views, it could be an artificial bid to make it seem like there is value. I usually won't consider the bids real until I see about 4 of them if I'm going to consider buying on this fact. People buy on this fact all the time, just look at ebay, once you start getting bids it attracts peoples attention, everyone wants to see what people are willing to pay for and take it. It's a power trip thing.

Now I tried really hard to find other sales with the word re in front but coudn't find anything, if someone would like to help me with this, please add to this appraisal and help. Unfortunately I found no other domains to use as a reference and I have to assume the worst that there is none if I could't find it this easily. Which means you have no value as far as comparing to other sale domains. That means $0 range value, well almost. I did find downpour.com, with one bid, as suspicious as it is we'll count it for you. $1024/170 results, will give you the value potential range here. That number is $6 roughly. At least it's something =).


-Developed Site Value Information-

(You can ignore this section as your domain is not developed...do read it though if you want to know how to raise this domains value)

This section is new to my appraisal method but important as well. Unlike sites that use your name, the value here is purely a way to try and find the value to the site in it’s developed state (if there is one). Now this method does not account for the value of the server it’s being hosted on or advertisements paid (and still being paid) to support it, since there is no way I can figure that out easily, so you should add in the value of the cost for you to host and what you’ve paid for already into this calculation when transferring the entire site over to someone else.

Well the first and most obvious thing anyone will be interested in as a reseller is what is its page rank and daily unique hits. Some sites are lucky and get unique hits without any advertising or development; sites such as 2-3 letter domains usually get good results with that, or one word dictionary words. The site I use to figure this out is, (http://urltrends.com). Page rank 10,9 domains would be sites like google.com and microsoft.com, while good moderate names like dog.com are page rank 4,5,6. A higher page rank is what you’re looking for in deciding its value.

Though it should be noted that page rank can be deceiving to the value of a site. You should read this article …

(http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/results/article.php/3518646),

So before buying sites based on page rank, you should make sure it’s truly worth your investment and to understand that real value comes from well placed advertising and unique clicks.

To truly understand Page-Rank and how it works visit this site, (http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank.html)

To save you some time though, here is the sum of it all,

“PageRank is a numeric value that represents how important a page is on the web. Google figures that when one page links to another page, it is effectively casting a vote for the other page. The more votes that are cast for a page, the more important the page must be. Also, the importance of the page that is casting the vote determines how important the vote itself is. Google calculates a page's importance from the votes cast for it. How important each vote is is taken into account when a page's PageRank is calculated.” –quoted from the above link.

Below is some information that you may find useful if you want to raise the page rank value for your domain name…

(http://www.entrepreneurs-journey.com/275/pagerank-explained/)

“Google created quite a storm when it launched its green PageRank bar. Webmasters became obsessed with methods to increase their PageRank and high PageRank sites started selling text links for hundreds of dollars. A link from a high PageRank page, from a PageRank 7, 8, 9 or 10, has been known to make lower PageRank pages increase a full number, even two if the incoming link is from a PageRank 10, and there is no doubt it is good for search engine rankings.” – quoted from above link

To save you the time of how much page rank value could potentially have on the sale of your site, here is a pricing guide I’ve made. I’ll include my sources below.

(Prices set at lowest possible figures I could find)

PageRank 0-: NEGATIVE value to your domain name considerably
PageRank 1-: $0, standard page rank
PageRank 2-: $9 +
PageRank 3-: $15 +
PageRank 4-: $25 +
PageRank 5-: $30 +
PageRank 6-: $45+
PageRank 7-: $80 +
PageRank 8-: $199 +
PageRank 9-: $2000 +
PageRank 10-: $3,000.00 +

::::Sources::::

http://www.clickz.com/experts/search/results/article.php/3518646

“Previously, on the PR scale he would buy a PR 6 link for $30-60 per month. At the higher end, he'd spend up to $2,000 for a PR 9.”

(Note that my research below from other sites seems to confirm this statement here, to add to the credibility of the site below)

http://www.text-link.us/page-rank-6-933-ctg.htm

(On the site above you can see the value of selling links to people from different sites with different page ranks. This shows the potential selling power of having a high page rank name, and how much at a minimum it might add to the value of your site. Again page rank is to be looked at with a grain of a salt and careful research. It’s only a guess as to the possible unique clicks that might arise from it if you’ve read the article on how page rank works it can be deceiving and manipulative. Despite this fact, many people still buy based on page rank and therefore it does have speculative value that can be quantified as I did above.)

The next factor to consider when giving a value here is the portability of the code and the time it takes to create a site of whatever value it was that you’ve created. Again I’m going to assume the worst and hire the cheapest programmer I could find to do quality work at $12 an hour from India. Assuming this, just calculate the time it would take to make the site in hours, by getting quotes from three different programmers and you’ll have an idea of the value of your site and the time and money it would take to replicate it. Though unfortunately I won’t be able to help you here to much here very accurately, but I can give my estimate of the time it might take to create that site and the minimum I might charge as a programmer myself to get something done assuming I lived in India or some other foreign country working for the lowest price possible. Therefore I will give a range value for that in the estimate.

Development Value

Now that you have an understanding of how I came to the values I’m about to present, here is what I discovered.

Site Value:$0~

(You can ignore this section as your domain is not developed)



- TLD - (Top-Level Domain) Value

My assessment is based on my personal experience in selling domain names.

In general the TLD's below have more positive value then other TLD's. Most other TLD's IMHO have negative value to most general names.

.COM names +$3.00 or + 3% of total value

.NET names +$1.50 +1.5% of total value
.ORG names +$1.00 +1% of total value
.BIZ names +$.20 or +.20% of total value
.US names +$.10 or +.10% of total value
.CC names +$.5 or +.5% of total value
.INFO names +$.1 or +.1% of total value

Though the value of the TLD's is also dependent on the name and the use of the TLD with it.

In most cases however, the .COM, .NET and .ORG are the way to go for general purpose names.

(You own the .COM, which is the best TLD for general purpose names like this so you of course get the maximum value for your TLD's worth here)

---- Value ----

Domain Availability Value - >-$10

Pricing Guide: Since you are the only registered user of this name, you lose selling power here considerably. It's +$5 for every TLD regged, it breaks even once the .NET and .ORG have been regged. Please don't reg these yourself as you'll only be fooling yourself of it's value.

KeyWord Selector Value ->+$0.34

Pricing Guide: (Read the keyword selector value section)

Relevance of Terms Value ->$0

Pricing Guide: The word repour doesn't have a very clear precise meaning, it could mean repouring anything, but then again it's so general that might be useful for a general site, to be safe I'm giving it a neutral $0 value here

Google Searches Value- >+$0.32

Pricing Guide:

Sites found using the name Value ->+$1

Pricing Guide:

Sales Comparable Range Value ->

RANGE MEDIAN:$0-$6
TIME MEDIAN TO SELL: Many Years...

Pricing Guide: I can't get an exact figure on time as I coudn't find enough domain names, that usually means you should expect many years before you can get the maximum extra money potential from this name based on the Range Median, which isn't that much...

Developed Site Value ->RANGE:$0-$0

Pricing Guide: (Read development info section above)

TLD Assessment Value ->+$3

Pricing Guide: You own the .Com, best one to have.

---- Estimated Value ----

Final Value:-$5.34 + mid $

---- Recommendation----

The name is roughly worth REG fee IMHO. Sorry for the bad news, hopefully though, this appraisal gives you some insight into the methods some domainers use in deciding to purchase a name or not, and there is still hope for your name like any name if developed. I hope I got any loose ends or questions you might have had during this appraisal.

Good luck with your domain name.

- Joe

-License-

You are allowed to use this appraisal to sell your domain name and I hope you do so. It's completely free of charge or problems! I do ask if your nice like me =), to let people know about StateExams.Org if they need information on passing state exams or know a state licensing business to help add there link for me. Though it isn't required, would be much appreciated ^_^. I will do more appraisals of this quality in the future for $NP if desired, just PM me.

 

[Ronald Regging]

Regfee.

The only context I could find it in was repouring candle wax and concrete, which had no real appeal on a commercial/domain level. I've never heard someone say "repour me a coke", because people just don't talk like that.

I'd say list it on Sedo with 'Make Offer' and if no one makes an offer within the year, let it drop. You never know. I recently had a domain that I regretted registering and was just hoping to get my regfee back for and someone made me an offer on Sedo for $450. Its so hard to appraise domains unless they adhere to a certain pattern of sales (i.e. 3 letter .coms, 4 letter pronouncable .coms, common dictionary base words, etc) because you never know what someone will want.

Good luck to say the least.

 

[gdave]

Thanks Joex for the appraisal.

I agree with your appraisal. And I agree with the next guy that says put it up for sale anyway and see what happens. Perhaps the fact that there are not a lot of sites with "repour" will help my parking income--there isn't much competition for those 681 people who do type in the name

My wife's best friend is from the Philippines and needs to study up for, and take the state accounting exam. I will certainly refer your site to her.

Have you ever thought of making a second site to appraise names? I think yours would be more believable than a name registrar who only gets richer by convincing you that you are registering winners! It might be profitable if you could computerize your system. I think a lot of people would certainly pay $10 for an unbiased computerized appraisal like yours.

I have to learn about how to get these name$ and then I will send you some later.

Thanks

I will post the GoDaddy appraisal of the name in the morning. There is a problem where I cannot log in to find the exact dollar amount now.

 

[x11joex11]

With my method it would be unfortunately impossible to computerize it unless I could partner somehow with the resources SEDO has, and DOMAINSITE, however, I am working on a program to help you find good domain names and see if they are registered or not =). Maybe I will make a site for appraising, I just got to think of a good domain name =P. Anybody?

Refering to your comments about the overture...

Keep in mind I owned a 600,000 overture domain (traveljapan.cc) and it was only worth $16, it's all dependent on the TLD at the end, so keep this in mind also when getting names in the future, luckily this time you got the .com. You can get name$ at the NP$ store link at the top, or you can just paypal me a donation if you want, [email protected]

 

[gdave]

Here is the GoDaddy Computer Appriasal for:

Repour.com $702 - $1825.

Yes, I am confused on why the computer thinks this name is worth so much. I am waiting on their human "certified" appraisal and will post it here when it is done.

 

[x11joex11]

Yeah, make sure they explain to you exactly how they got those figures, the only reason it should be up in that range is if there were previous sales of names that were similar in the extremely high figure. They may have information I don't have, but still, the fact that out of 170 similar names I could only find one on sedo, implies that it would still take an incredibly long time in theory to sell it for the extra money. See what you can do with it though =).

 

[gdave]

For everyones information....

I finally got the real person certified appraisal from GoDaddy. It was $48 - $134.

(at first they rated it as a 2-word domain name...maybe RepOur.com ? but I asked them to reappraise it as a single 6-letter dictionary word. They changed the number of words field from 2 to 1, and changed the desirability from 88 to 200 but they did not increase their price estimate.)

This is their scoring: (Best=5)
.com =5
length=4
#of Words =5
#of Hyphens = 5
#of Characters = 5
Desirability = 200 (no limit to upper score)

Even though I picked up a domain name and the estimate for $10 so the estimate only costed me about $3, I didn't like their estimate as much as that of x11joex11.

I'm sending some NameBucks his way and my friends and relatives to is great site: StateExams.org

What am I going to do with the name? With very little competing sites in google for persons wanting information on how to repour candles (the process in candlemaking) I may develop a referal site for candlemakers. With an overture of 681, I should get some free traffic.

If I get an offer from a beverage company or candlemaking business for $100 or more before I develop the site I will probably sell. But I think the name is worth more than reg. fee and not worthy of being dropped.

 

[x11joex11]

My site DNFinder.Net is up, I put my appraisal guide there, and my newest software program to help in finding good domain names. You may find it interesting, it only works on windows xp though despite my sig, mac is almost ready.

I'm setting up an appraisal payment section on my site as well for in detail appraisals for only $10 to make it worth my while to those who are serious about the value of there domain names and don't want to go through the work entailed on my appraisal guide. Thanks for the tips!

 

[gdave]

Nice Site: DNFinder.Net

It should be useful to a lot of beginners in this forum. I think you are priced right at $10 because that is what I think people are willing to pay. However, I think you are going to be doing a lot of work at about minimum wage.

I would definitely recommend you over any large company appraisal firm.

Of course when it comes to domain name value it all comes down to just finding someone else that could benefit from the DN we have to sell and is willing to pay for that benefit.

For example you might appraise "MyStupidComputerStore.com" at $0 - Reg. Fee. But a business that wanted to open a store with that name might be willing to pay $XXX for the DN. (A few years ago a computer store opend up in my town that was named "My Stupid Computer Store" but they went out of business in just a couple years.)

 

[WuLabsWuTecH]

regfee at best, i just don't see the value in this name but it looks like you've put a lot into determining the value of this name...

 

[x11joex11]

Yeah, it's true that is why I appraise value with a base and a range, the range is a guess of what it might sell for based on sales comparables, I can only appraise with the information that I have at the time. As you get more information the range value could potentially change, but in the case of mystupidcomputer store that is one buyer and is a very risky deal, the more risk the more reward of course but the chances of finding that buyer and selling for enduser prices is very rare.