status-resolved Regarding Forum Bloat/Quotes!

[Ategy]

Post the whole quote.

I'm not a fan of needless forum bloat (I bloat forum databases with new sentences, not needlessly quoted ones .. lol) .. I only quote the relevant on context parts .. the link is there specifically for people who want to read the less relevant parts ...

The irony
https://www.namepros.com/threads/like-this-post-if-you-liked-the-old-like-system.1151803/

First let me say that I'm not trying to be snarky .. even if @Eric Lyon's post was completely inaccurate, I did have a really good laugh at his comment!

That being said .. I say inaccurate because forum bloat has nothing to do with the way forum data is displayed (likes or anything else for that matter). That's more a bandwidth/server thing (which admittedly can be separate problematic issues as well).

Forum bloat is the actual size of content data in the forum database. Obviously the smaller it is the more efficient it is .. HOWEVER .. also equally obvious is that (unique) CONTENT IS KING ... so ironically the goal is to have as large a database full of great content as possible while being as efficient as possible.

Most would think that the Quote System is smart and just references the post or snippet of text in question and gives information to the current post of where to pull the text from. but it's unfortunately not that (and never realistically could in a way that would allow the current flexibility in quote usage).

The reality is that when you quote another post, whatever is in that quote is duplicated and added into the new post (effectively in the database twice .. or more if the same post is quoted repeatedly). So particularly for longer posts (such as my own .. lol), it can become a source of database inefficiency if someone quotes an entire post simply when addressing a smaller portion of it.

Obviously you don't want to take so much away so as to make that remaining content within the quote out of context, but as long as that isn't being done then in fact people should not necessarily quote posts completely, they instead should only quote the parts pertaining to the reply they are making.


PS .. I'm obviously also of the opinion that irony and humour are very justifiable uses of forum resources!

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

I say inaccurate because forum bloat has nothing to do with the way forum data is displayed (likes or anything else for that matter)

You should say you disagree. That is your opinion of forum bloat, and it is not a fact about what it is or isn't.

All good for us to close this now? It does not appear to serve any purpose other than you expressing your opinion; there is nothing for us to do or consider in it.

 

[Ategy]

lol .. it wasn't a complaint or anything .. and yes .. just my definition of bloat specifically as it pertains to the forum database size. (Admitting that maybe the term might have larger scope outside the context of quotes). Just pointing it out because I think many people often quote too much without knowing the effects it has on the database size .. just posted so that people can learn from it .. not a request to actually change anything!

I suppose if you do close it then no one will learn from it .. but .. whatever .. not the end of the world .. and you can quote me on that .. but I don't recommend it!

 

[Bravo Mod Team]

I think many people often quote too much without knowing the effects it has on the database size

It's negligible for us as long as they don't quote one of your massive domain lists.

But even then, that's not a database issue; that's a limit we've set on the servers' memory to keep things running smoothly and efficiently, and your domain lists take up a lot of memory due to all of the BBCode in them.

Don't worry, though; we can handle it!