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This item of news i came across in the Edinburgh News, doesn't make very positive reading for .TV....
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Would be very interested to get comments from you all!
 
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'Cheap' .tv and .biz internet suffixes end up left on shelf ...

Ouch! :o

Don't put all your eggs into one ".TV" basket, IMHO. :blink:
Thanks for the humbling reminder post/link, ForSale.
-Jeff B-)
 
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Britain's small businesses have snubbed the .tv and .biz internet suffixes
OK Mom & Pop, I can understand your tailor shop, grocery store, and antique shop on the corner may not be very well suited to the adoption. Is it really targeted at this demographic :| I think not.

The web address ending voted favourite was .co.uk
What a surprise! Small companies in the UK like the .co.uk extension... Great insight.

However, a number of bigger organisations, such as broadcasters GMTV and Five, along with Liverpool FC's television channel and the ParliamentLivechannel have adopted the .tv suffix.
Another Surprise! Bigger organizations and broadcasters have adopted .TV D-:

Jeff said:
Don't put all your eggs into one ".TV" basket
I agree, like any smart business person or investor you never put all your eggs in one basket. A well diversified business/investment plan will aide in success.
 
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Of course you should not put all your eggs in one basket. And there is no doubt that .tv is not a developed extension today which is really all the article confirms. If "everyone" already thought .tv was great, we wouldn't have been picking up generic one word .tv names in Nov 2005.

As has been stated many times, .tv is a medium to long-term speculative investment predicated on the greater acceptance and use of high quality online video/ipTV/etc, with acceptance potentially kickstarted and supplemented by the use of these domains by media companies.

And, with no offense meant to anyone, I would not particularly look to the "small business owner" of the UK for guidance on a topic like that. Data from a population set like this will be, at best, a lagging indicator on technological developments and certainly not a forward looking indicator. By the time the average "small business owner" thinks that .tv domains are nifty, you will not picking them up at Reg Fee :)
 
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Thanks for the news link.

I have decided to quote parts of the news which I think are imporatnt.

'Cheap' .tv and .biz internet suffixes end up left on shelf

Okay thats the heading, keep in mind what they said.

A survey of SMEs found they had less credibility than the more established generic top level domain (TLD) identifications such as .com and .co.uk.

Of course, nobody would think any ccTLD or anything has more appeal than .com or .co.uk

THE bulk of Britain's small businesses have snubbed the .tv and .biz internet suffixes introduced in 2000, branding them either "cheap" or "unprofessional".

The poll of just under 200 firms by Alternative Investment Market-listed internet software publisher KTS found 94 per cent of respondents claiming that the .tv suffix - which originally belonged to the tiny Pacific island of Tuvalu, which sold it to a Californian internet company for $50 million - conferred the least credibility on a business

What does it tell you? This paper and KTS think that less than 200 firms mean bulk of Britain's small businesses. Does it make sense? And if 200 firms mean bulk of small businesses, does anybody care, certainly I do not. :imho:

However, a number of bigger organisations, such as broadcasters GMTV and Five, along with Liverpool FC's television channel and the ParliamentLivechannel have adopted the .tv suffix.

These are big. Their use of .tv says it all.

KTS found 47 per cent of those polled saying that the domain suffix was an important part of the firm's branding, while 53 per cent said it was not.

And 74 per cent of business owners said the domain suffixes sounded either cheap or unprofessional, detracting from a company's brand image

So 74% of less than 200 firms said .tv and .biz sound bad but then only 47% of 200 thought that the domain suffix is important. Does not really connect, does it?

Dr Marc Pinter-Krainer, chief executive of KTS, said: "Dot biz hasn't done the biz among the commercial community. And .tv and .net are not perceived as much cop either, lacking the same sort of lustre which .co.uk or .com have for a company's image.

And this guy thinks even .net does not have much cop either, LOL.

My 2 cents,

EDIT: Seems, replies at the same time picking up same points.:)
Gamehouse

ForSaleSign said:
This item of news i came across in the Edinburgh News, doesn't make very positive reading for .TV....
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Would be very interested to get comments from you all!
 
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Interesting article.

Thanks,
Ammudamus
 
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MOLE better look out the brits hate his .biz and personally I could care less what small business owners in the UK think about .tv this extension is like what alcohol is for minors, NOT FOR THEM stay away .
 
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A couple of observations:

1) I could ask 200 businesses in the UK what they thought of dot .tv and .biz and could get a completely different result if you understand the various statisical methodologies....NOTE: I'm not too impressed with the company who came up with these results either. Looks like their eager to maintain a tight relationship with large companies. This would explain the "results" they came up with.... Oh and their website sucks too. http://www.ktsplc.com/kts/partners.php

2) Dot .TV and .BIZ does suck for certain kinds of businesses

3) You can tell where a domain is headed by how much it's advertised. I'm seeing .TV more often anymore than dot org right at the moment, which is the 2nd most advertised url (in the US) behind dot .com.
 
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Newspapers, and "print people" in general, rarely have a good word about TV -in any form. TV "Killed the Newspaper" offline and "the web", with a *dot* of .TV, may just bury the "dead tree press"... as we know it.

BTW, EdinburghNews.TV (& .Biz) are available. I'd wager that if a biz savy bloak bought EdinburghNews.TV, or Edinburgh.TV, and went around to the businesses surveyed -offering online (rich media and/or video) advertising -which one can offer cheaper than newspaper display ads, enough biz owners would sign-up to make the venture worthwhile. In that *light* .TV becomes a cool-sexy-modern way for a biz to reach consumers while offering a unique , and proven (ie local cable tv ads), small business "personality branding" format... which also happens to appeal to many a owner's ego.

Also, as with any survey... how the question/issue is framed (and by whom) greatly influences the results. Ask a small business owner -- "which ad format is more effective (and/or Professional -- and/or has the greatest reach); Newspaper Or TV? -- Newspaper Or The Internet?

In attempts to at least slow the internet TV train I expect more negative newspaper articles, from many clever angles, about the "boob tube" / "idiot box" et al online.
 
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well, without even the slightest hint of neighbourly xenophobia i would say that this article is from a Scottish Newspaper.... The large organisations they quote which have adopted the .tv suffix are English organisations : broadcaster GMTV and Five, along with Liverpool FC's television channel and the ParliamentLivechannel

plus, take comfort in the fact that of all the extensions in the world, .TV is now being compared (albeit derogatively) with .com/net/biz etc... that too me speaks in volumes. You notice .info is not spoken of etc etc..

plus plus, talk about measuring oranges against alarm clock radios, "small businesses in the UK"... Wtf...? As if small businesses need a .tv address.. I am a small business owner in the UK and I dont own the .tv extension of my company name... And im an avid .TV fan...

plus plus plus, Jeff what is the story with your ultra sceptisism regarding all things .tv...? We get it mate, you dont like the extension, move on.. Dont post in every thread "reg fee"... We get it OK.. JEEEEZ.. You would be getting such a lot of abuse right now if you werent such a demi-mod round here... Not THE demi-mod you understand just a demi-mod... :p
 
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:) I'm glad my "devil's advocate" posting has engendered some good comments.
I realise the article is not really the best example, but as you've pointed out, it does show that .TV is making the news, and the fact it's being compared to .com at all, can only be good.
I am also a fan of .co.uk, of course, and as Badger pointed out, it is like comparing Oranges and Alarm Clock Radios!
As a big fan of .TV , (please see former postings on the .TV thread for proof :) I am reeely a fan),
I think this year, maybe Q3/ Q4 , we'll see it take off in a bigger way on the secondary market.
 
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I'm having a research old threads day today. This one is hilarious.

Jeff, now I understand why I have always found your appraisals like an in joke I could never work out...lol....I always thought you liked .tv though...hmm

I'm appraising this thread as Reg. fee (+/-) which I think means reg fee or something more or less than reg fee...I think

(No offence intended) :b

Anyway, hoping this thread will kick off again as I have put all my dot tv's in the one basket and I'm looking forward to people telling me that the tuvalu sun has gone to my head.

Uggh - heat stroke - must go and have a lie down
 
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Bad article

I wonder why UK based company online.tv registered alot of .tv domains?
 
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