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Now before I start to give my opinion on the Indian extension, I wish to convey the fact that I am definitely NOT trying to hype up the .IN scene to propagate my own portfolio or investments, which many people often believe when domainers make positive comments on certain extensions. Although I must say that I am the owner of a fair few nice .IN names, I feel that I am quite behind with .IN and therefore playing catch up on pretty much a daily basis now through hand regs and buying on reseller market, trying to build up a decent portfolio of .in at reasonable prices, before its too late. Many strong key (and clever) players have been in the .IN game for many many years, secretly trading amongst themselves and waiting for the explosion that is about to occur in the next few months.

I started investing in .IN a few years back but it has only been over the last couple of years, that I have realized the true potential in this amazing extension. Many years ago, I had initially thought that .in was only good for domain hacks, with quite a few companies all over the globe buying .in names primarily for only that purpose ( many still do) and not even thinking about the traffic from India but I only fully realized a couple of years ago that I was very wrong about .in and wished that I had got in much earlier and I think that the Chinese are also realising that now too.

I am sure you are all aware of the recent rapid momentum with NNN.ins & LLL.ins which are showing growth at an unprecedented speed, prices increasing on a daily basis. This shows the potential of .IN and also a precursor of what is going to happen in the coming months. And in a matter of speaking, I guess it is already starting to happen right now as we speak, with more and more end users buying .Ins and interesting being sparked all over India and globally too. After rapid increases in NNN.ins & LLL.ins sparked by the Chinese, then will come massive increases in sale prices of .IN keywords, which are already becoming hot property in India right now anyway.

The .IN extension is definitely the future of the Indian Webspace and the market is starting to move extremely fast at this moment in time, some very exciting times ahead! Not sure if you guys have been keeping up to date with the news, but over the last few months, there has been some very big news about the Indian webspace market. Flipkart, India’s largest e-commerce company, raised $6 Billion in total venture capitalists, and $1 Billion just last year and the company is now valued at $15 Billion. This funding figure matches facebook’s fundraising back in 2011 and makes it the third largest deal of its kind in the world!

Also during the same week last year, Amazon announced a $2 Billion investment in its India unit and has recently stated that India is the next ‘Trillion Dollar’ market, stating that the size of opportunity in India is so large it will be measured in trillions, not billions!

There are many excellent figures for India's internet entrepreneurs from the commitment and faith in India of the larger firms & global corporations. There have been many such multi-billion/million deals last year and this year seems just as exciting, if not more. There are also major rumors now that Walmart's entry into Indian e-commerce is very imminent! Things are starting to move extremely quickly over there and the market is about to mature to a completely new level guys! Just yesterday, the Prime Minister of India launched a $1.5 Billion fund for new startups. India truly is on the cusp of a digital revolution. Mobile phone subscriptions in the country have already passed the 1 Billion mark and these are now quickly being replaced by smartphones. This is pretty much a once in a lifetime moment, and the prime minister has stated that “the transformation occuring is on a scale that is, perhaps, unmatched in human history”.

The changing landscape in India is now moving at neck breaking speed. Internet access has rapidly expanded and the Reliance Group is due to make a move by summer of this year that will totally change everything in India, with EXTREMELY cheap access to 4G! Already mostly through mobile devices, Indians are now increasingly shifting daily activity online, like reading the newspaper, doing bank transactions and buying goods and services, from shoes to refrigerators etc….

Nowadays in India, billboards, text messages and emails bombard people every day with news of deep online-only discounts and special offers. By June, more Indians are expected to access the Internet on their cellphones — 371 million — than the entire population of the United States! And we are just talking about cellphone internet connections here, not even including the other initiatives in fixed line, fibre optic, cable connections etc…

Just this week, an indian firm just released a smartphone that is priced under 500 rupees, less than 5 USD (1% of the price of the latest Apple iPhone). The current median in India age is 27, nearly a full decade younger than in China!

E-commerce in India is growing at a compound annual rate of 34 percent, according to the Internet and Mobile Association of India.

By next year, many experts agree on the fact that there will be half a billion Indians online. India has already surpassed the USA in terms of number of users. A flood of cheap smartphones in the market is encouraging rapid internet adoption and an online revolution is taking place. Unlike the other BRIC countries such a China, Russia and Brazil, the consumers in India are largely Anglophone which means that as Indians become the second-largest nationality online (after the Chinese), they simultaneously will become the single largest group on the English-language internet. A vast majority of them using the English language as the preferred way to communicate online!


On top of that mobile increase, fibre optic subscribers through the Indian government's NOFN project are likely to reach over 600 million by 2020! With average Internet speeds in India set to triple over the next couple of years, this is going to be the LARGEST MARKET in the world and it will all start kicking off towards sometime this summer!



India is the worlds largest democracy and has the second largest population of English speakers in the world. It also currently has the world's largest youth population. In total the population of India is equivalent of more than the populations of Europe and the US combined! Just think about this sort of opportunity guys!

Just literally a few months ago, Japans richest man (owner of SoftBank) invested $627million in an Indian web company and stated that is had plans to invest $10Billion over the next couple of years due to the vast market potential of India.



India's population has now crossed over the 1 billion mark, more than half of its population are younger than 25 and nearly 70 percent of its 1.25 billion population is under 40. Therefore in absolute numbers, this is actually unprecedented anywhere in the history of the world. It also comes at a time when much of the developed world and also China have aging populations. Overall, India will overtake China as the largest population in the world before 2030. At the current growth rate, India will easily exceed 600 million internet users by 2018 or much before that. This will make India the biggest open internet access market in the world and therefore this is the place to capitalize on some serious growth. And remember guys, India is the largest DEMOCRACY in the world, and that word democracy is what is changing the minds of Google, Twitter, Facebook, Uber etc…to start moving away from China and more into India.

India is also set to overtake the U.S. as the world's largest Facebook market by number of users before the end of this year, which already at over 135 million users, is the only country specific market in the world where Facebook is aspiring to have 1 billion users, nowhere else are they or can they even aspire for this guys. It was literally just a few months ago that Zuckerberg met with Modi to discuss the push forward of internet useage in India and has been in India yet again to push his ideas. Discussions are always continuing with the top web corporations and the politicians of India, to push forward Internet useage in the country.

India added 100 million new users to the Internet in 2015, taking the country to more than 400 million users -- more than there are residents of the US. But with another 800 million yet to be connected, the world's biggest tech companies are eager to be a part of India's consumer tech boom in the next few years. Between Google last month beginning its mission to hook up train stations around India with free Wi-Fi and Facebook's controversial Free Basics initiative, which will give limited e-services to the poor at no cost, expect the numbers to only accelerate. In 2015, smartphone sales in India eclipsed those in the US for the first time ever, according to Counterpoint Research. China remains the world's largest phone market, but it's nearing saturation point, with growth stalling in 2015 for the first time. The US is a similarly tough nut to crack, with 79 percent of people already owning smartphones, according to ComScore.

Due to these statistics and current initiatives and business projects taking place in this country, India is of course set to shortly become the largest population of web users in the world!

I realize guys that many of you may primarily be involved in .COM and you may ask that although India is rapidly becoming a massive user base in the online world, why would the users move to a cctld like .IN rather than .COM or another of the many new/old extensions? My belief is that .COM is becoming slightly saturated or which I why I chose .IN over .COM when concentrating on ROI.


Of course, I believe that .COM is still CURRENTLY king globally and will be king for a long long time, there is no denying that. I personally started off in domaining over 12 years ago with primarily .coms, .orgs and .nets. I now have no .coms in my portfolio and have also sold most of my .nets and .orgs too to generate enough funds to buy into .IN which I believe is the next big thing for sure! .Com is great for primarily international/USA traffic, but Google has a local search site for many individual countries, for example Google.ca for Canada, Google.fr for France & Google.co.uk for the UK. These local search engines tend to give priority to local domains and Google in India will tend to give priority for .IN extensions when end users are searching for specific items. Therefore IF any major corporation is interested in gaining traffic from INDIAN customers then they will need the .IN extension to further this cause and create a highly ranked online portal to their store/services through the Indian webspace, which now many of them are already doing. I know that algorithms are continually changing and take into account many more other factors than this, and I may not be completely correct in my understanding. But using the .IN extension to start operations in India is a growing market and many global/Indian corporations are already doing this. .IN is now the primary extension for India and is unbeatable in generating traffic for businesses through the web whom want to capitalize on India’s enormous population. 



Most companies based within India are using .IN sites as their primary websites and redirecting their .com sites to the .IN ones and having been doing so for many years now. Also, many international companies are already using .IN sites as their primary portals for Indian originated specific traffic and then transferring into their .com sites or even just using the .IN sites as their primary sites over there, built specifically for the Indian market. Most international companies use ccTLDs in this manner and they are not just bought as a defensive move to protect their trademark and name, although this is definitely also a major advantage of owning all important extensions of a brand in new major emerging markets. Also another great stat is that the IMF have concluded that the total size of the Indian economy is set to surpass that of Japan and Germany combined by 2019.

Again, why not .com for Indians? Well .com is still used by Indians and it always will be just as it is still used by Germans or the British. But INDIAN users do often prefer the .IN extension over .com, unless of course they are specifically looking for products or services that are based outside of India. This is similar to markets such as the UK in which .co.uk is the predominant extension used, German market where .de is used over .com unless looking for global services etc.....Yet India is even more nationalistic than most of these other countries and in a similar manner to China, Indians always prefer to use INDIAN identifiable services & options due to long established trust and pride in their country and this is exactly why the .IN extension is prime real estate for the Indian webspace. It is also the preferred extension that is being pushed by the Indian government and that is exactly why many are now investing in .IN names.



Guys, im sure you're pretty much up to date with the current marketplace anyway but yeah go ahead and check out the statistics for yourself in regards to India and i'm pretty sure that you'll agree with me when I say that it is going to blow up in a massive way! All of these stats that I have mentioned can be verified on many established global business/news sites with a simple google search.

There's literally $Billions currently being poured into the Indian Webspace and Indian Internet usage right now, every single western/global company is dying to get in and many Indian companies are racking up their arsenal as we speak. The newly formed government is extremely pro-digital and the word on the street is that they are going to quickly start easing out a lot of national policies, making it easier to carry out business/services online. This already occurred yesterday in the start up sector.

I'm not sure if you guys are aware of what occurred just over a decade ago in relation to the telecoms industry over there but it went absolutely crazy and led to a full on price war in relation to tariffs and mobile phone products, which led to India rapidly becoming the number two country of the highest users of mobile devices in the world (soon to become number one). Yet this time, the rate of growth is expected to be more than triple that in relation to web usage, smartphone adoption ect.... Extremely cheap 4G with subsidised smartphones, tablets is expected to be rolled out on a national scale in 2016 by major companies such as Reliance ect.....

The number of end users in India is already set to surpass the number in USA, and we've not even reached the quarter way point in terms of the size of population in India.

The major western corporates are already betting big on India and by the end of the year, it'll be far too late to get in on the game as many old school players would've already got a foothold on the major keywords and won't be letting go for spare change. I myself wish I had go in earlier on the .IN game. BUT there is still massive opportunity RIGHT NOW, as it is STILL a buyer’s market which I don’t believe will be the case in one years time!
And since the market is on the cusp of exploding in India and I know the potential worth of these names in a year or two time will be immense.



Guys, you have to realise that by 2018, India will have twice the number of Internet users as the US does and has already overtaken the US in terms of number of user at the end of last year. Of course the market will take a while to fully mature, but in sheer advertising potential alone, this is amazing! And plus the speed of adoption nowadays both in web services and ecommerce is incredibly fast!
India already at this moment in time has over 400 million internet users, which is nearly 17 times the full actual population of the country of Australia guys. And as I write this email this very moment, India is adding 1.25 millions internet users to the web every single week which is nearly 180,000 new unique users of the internet per day! By the end of today, another 180,000 users would've come online and have started searching for things on the web and the same will happening again tomorrow, and the day after and the day after that....ect..... Those figures are just too wild to ignore! Yes of course, all of these users are not mature users as in the west, they will not all buy lots of items on through the web, they may not all spend hours on the web every single day BUT these aspects are rapidly changing and these users are quickly changing their habits and many are starting to replicate our habits here in the west.

Once an Indian picks up a smartphone, they will never go back! I think that investors in the web game tend not to pay too much attention on new emerging markets in the beginning, always instead looking towards .com & the western markets which I believe have now started to slowly saturate in terms of growth. Why buy up in Beverly Hills when there is no further growth happening there? When instead we can look at a new neighbourhood that is growing beyond all expectations and will soon be the new Beverly Hills of the East! The time is now, the buyers market is now! I don’t think investors here should miss out on this chance! Obviously no one here will take this information as gospel, so therefore I request anyone whom finds all of this interesting, then please research into this for yourself and I am sure that you will find that adding some nice .ins into your portfolio NOW rather than later will be a good financial decision. B-)
 
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Recons, I don't know where you live but I can tell you should plan a trip to Europe and see if you can find a country where .com is not 1st choice, but close the the ccTLD.
 
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It depends on the business.
It depends on the business and the development of the internet as a business tool in that market. Global selling tends to be quite common in an early market. But as the market matures, most of the business tends to be inwardly focused (people in the country selling to each other). As the market matures, unless the ccTLD registry is completely incompetent, the ccTLD typically gets more registrations than com/net/org/biz/info and .com becomes a legacy TLD.

Regards...jmcc
 
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Recons you are quite interesting. Your arguments only point to India as an internet underdeveloped country. I generally agree. But your arguments do not prove that there isn't money and profit in .in investing. Your contexts are quite off too. Comparing .in to .au? Because .ins #s are low doesn't mean .in will be forgotten by Indians.you are implying that and itshard to prove that will happen. .in has been slow..yes..but it has picked up and isn't going to slow down.But what's your real,point though? When I look at .In all,I see is Bugatti money. Even 10k invested into .in is explosive..in is not mecca of cctlds, we are not making it more than it is in reality. You see, some have tracked this stuff longer than others so some have fuller stories....just sayin. .ins fundamentals are all in place, I have no idea how someone cannot see that.like for real? Then they don't get it then. But it is good to hear alternative opinions...helps in the long run..
 
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Why would I care to run .in down?

It is already down. Why are you posting search interest in .in if it does not translate into registrations?

Yes, 1.6MM for .us is the closest comparison to 2MM for .in given that not many countries can compare in population with India.

Oh, and the last report for cctlds shows that .in did not make it into top 10 even for growth % from that very low start point.

Here is the top ten for Q4 2015:

China
Estonia
Armenia
Niue
Costa Rica
Latvia
Malaysia
Uzbekistan
Iran
Algeria

To make it into top 10, only 3.9% growth was needed.

China, in the meanwhile, grew by 30%+ from already huge base and overtook .de as the most popular cctld. (by your logic, I have an interest in running .cn into the sky. I hold zero domains in .cn and in .in, don't care if they go up and down).

My only interest is in helping fellow forum members and cautioning them not to make impulse decisions based on irrelevant news or extrapolations.

Now what is your interest?


Sorry my friend, while some of the stats are true.. I disagree with your statement of " .IN is already down."

Exactly a year before .IN numbers are 1.5 million and now its approximately 2.07 million names.. What is the growth rate in a year , its almost 38% in a year time. So its proving .IN as growing extension, this is exactly I am trying to point out.. As investors we should look at the future , not present or past. Only point you keep repeating look at .com and its glorious history , so nothing can change and even India no one change. Friend change is the only constant thing in the world and its already happening in case of .IN . Things are changed pretty much in last one year and the same trend will continue further. I will not bother anyone invest or not invest into .IN Names, just sharing to provide the transparency and for healthy discussion.

Wait for the next CCTLDs report, .IN will be listed as one of the best growing extensions.

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How does HDI of India and corruption level in India actually affect my ability to profit off .in domain names? The country is so big, even if its only a tiny fraction of people who can buy domains, thats good enough for those of us with good .in domains. People are arguing about India and all sorts of indices? Soooo irrelevant to .ins real prospects and potential from a domainer perspective. But its ok,you can keep arguing about theories while .ins best real estate is being snatched and bought for bargains(sometimes) and regged for years out by insightful people, and more are coming from India.
 
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An interesting video clip on India in 2018 and its massive potential for the next couple of years:

 
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Chinese economy is slowing and India is likely to be the fastest growing economy in the world this, and possibly next, year.

India GDP $2.384 trillion Growth 7.3% = +0.174 trillion
China GDP $10.354 trillion Growth 6.8% = +0.704 trillion

Difference in growth tempo between "fastest growing economy" and soon will be biggest economy is just 0.5% and actual compound GDP growth will be 4 times bigger in China that's slowing down. Most countries in the world can only dream about such a "slow down".
 
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Great summary of current events in the Indian market. These are some really exciting times to be invested in .in domain names. You have covered many aspects in your post, well done again.
 
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@HUKU, you are correct in stating that people are realising that democracy is not the only model that works BUT it is still the most accepted model for western economies which is why the large western corporations (US & European) prefer to operate in democratic parts of the world rather than in restricted countries whom clamp down on every little adjustment they try to make to their businesses, making operations very difficult for them. Democracy equals more freedom for both the consumer and the business enabling a business to directly interact with the consumer, without constant scrutinization from the state. The domain game in China is still quite restricted and closed to Chinese domainers, it is also not so straight forward in comparison to .IN which is very open and as India has a massive English speaking population, the opportunities with .IN are extremely vast. As Shiva previously mentioned, the .IN game is open to everyone worldwide and easy to enter to native English speakers too.

@djum, I am not sure that you fully understand the economics of these countries, the GDP effect is not as clear cut as you state, you are just spitting out numbers which do not tell the whole story my friend. China and India have very different approaches to generating growth. China has directed the massive investment percentage of GDP into the creation of industrial capacity, aimed substantially at export markets. It is therefore vulnerable to downturns in global markets, particularly in the USA & Europe. The level of consumption had fallen to 38% of GDP by the end of 2005, just about the lowest level of any major world economy. Due to this, excess capacity generated by the high level of investment relative to consumption has resulted in overcapacity, stagnating or reducing prices, growing levels of unsold inventory and pressures on profitability.

But India has followed a different path of growth, the size of India’s middle class has quadrupled to almost 250 million people over the past 15-20 years. Overall population growth has slowed considerably, with large gains in per capita income. India’s demographics are beginning to resemble those of the developed West. As the current generation of potential baby boomers matures and the consumer sector of the economy continues to prosper, spending power and modern consumer behaviour look set to “trickle down” through the economy for decades. India has relied considerably on a combination of growing domestic market demand and investment in knowledge-intensive industry and services, which has meant that India has been to a great extent insulated from global downturns affecting physical trade that have affected China.

And that is why India is a very different story to China. India is following the western model, which in my opinion has been extremely successful right?!
 
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And after CVCV.in buyout created by various people, LLLL.in CHIPS buyout is currently on-going, by a Chinese team.
 
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And after CVCV.in buyout created by various people, LLLL.in CHIPS buyout is currently on-going, by a Chinese team.

Indeed, I am very much surprised the speed at which the buyout is happening.. :) At the same time not surprised as this is quite natural to see the 4L.in chips buyout event as many chinese investors believe in .IN and they are indeed smart investors too. I have highlighted this almost a month before with 4N.in stats :)
 
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Great post and some really interesting points. I think what is exciting about Indian domain name market for me is how much of a sleeping giant it is (or was). I remember feeling like I had really missed the boat with .co.uk and .com domain names in about 2010 when I realised that all the serious gems had been regged prior to 2006 and reseller prices were already high, so started regging Indian domain names in 2011/12. It's been a long game and I sold virtually nothing for the first few years, but it's really only just started to kick off since mid 2015. This year sales have been steady at one or more a week, averaging about $100/sale for me (I sell wholesale to reseller). Prices have definitely shifted too, and there is a lot more liquidity on the reseller market than there was a year ago, so I feel more confident about renewal fees and picking up drops. So many little gems of the future to handreg, like I recently handregged coffeepods.in, search traffic in India has tripled for the term in the last two years and will continue to grow as nespresso spreads and Indian middle class grows. That's a handreg this year that I'm confident I can hold and sell for $500+ in 2 years time, or could easily develop into an Amazon skin site.

Traffic volume in India is just colossal too, I have a few domains with high search volume (punjabisongs.in, traininfo.in) and even as parked domains you see the sheer volume of traffic. traininfo receives about 1000 uniques a month parked at sedo (I bought it for $50 last year).

I don't know much about .cn domains and I am sure they are huge too, but I have played long on Indian domains for a few years now and I can see that 2016 is a game changer year.
 
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Very good conversation going on. Thanks a lot to the author for such a long and heavy post on .in domains. Also happy to see different perceptions from different people. I would like to add few observations to this thread:

Few perceptions are right in past situations. But now things have got changed a lot and still changing more with new government in India. Make in India and Digital India have entire scope of business in India.

New government is encouraging a lot of startups who can comeup with new innovative ideas that would be really helpful in growing India's economy. They also have initiated pilot project of digiatlizing small scale business and increasing their business options in few areas. Also Indian economy is currently very strong when compared to the rest of the world. Now a days investments are happening huge in numbers compared to earlier in India.

With digital India programme people also realized the key role of having brand and value coming with the good domain name. Under awareness programme government started converting all their process / activities into online communication system first. In order to make this much more bigger they have started laying internet lines in Villages too with atleast 2gbps speed. So that products being produced in villages can be directly sold to the world. Like these many things are happening in India subject to online market.

By seeing with this just few things itself i strongly believe there is greater scope of increasing need of .in domains as India is wide range of cultures, languages, religions,etc.
 
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As per Registry.in, the current .in registrations are above 2 million. Obviously some ways to go to reach Top 10 cctlds or a Top 5. A trend have noticed in the last 3 months is that its getting tough to find good keyword domain names (one word or 2 word .in or .co.in), they are being picked up as drops or people are holding on for the future/developing.

Unlike many of the gtlds, cctlds don't need the hype for the most part, large country cctlds have enough market internally or global interest in the market. Its been 10 yrs since .in domains have been in the market and it has percolated enough in my opinion. The trajectory is definitely changing now, the only question is how rapidly .in registrations reach the 5 million mark, 10 million mark and so on, is it 5 yrs or 10 yrs.
 
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India prefers .com

I believe its a fair impression one can make looking at the big org websites which are established at the early years of Internet evolution , in those days even .IN not available for open registration, .IN has been first made available for public use in 2005 and made this one open for all nationalities , I agree to the fact .COM was already in use as a primary extension for the same reasons. Years 2005 to 2010 also .COM has its significant dominance in India .
According to http://www.internetlivestats.com/internet-users/india/ by end of 2010 92,323,838 million internet users in India. First time its reached 100 million internet users population in 2011 . Actual growth of Indian internet space has witnessed since 2011 onwards .. Its growing at rapid speed..

.IN growth indeed has aligned to the internet users growth. I have tried to explain in the past also in previous threads, even an Indian org running their website on .COM also they have no choice but to secure .IN name as a must for brand protection. They cant ignore .IN , You can select any 20 top .COM based Indian orgs and look if they secured .IN or .CO.in, you will have your own answer.

I have noticed you have been mixing your thoughts bringing .COM into .IN , in simple words its like living in fools paradise to say India will use .COM as their primary extension ( yes it was ) , future is bound to .IN's favour when comes to India. When comes to Investing , its not about past and present, majorly one should look at the future.

At the same time .COM is the unanimous leader to call itself as a true global extension , there is no competitor for it. Its a matter of fact .COM has 125 plus million registrations and the prices are super expensive , so no other extension comes closure to .COM in every aspect. There is no discussion required on this front.

The above strengths of the .COM is the true opportunity for .IN investors and as well as other extensions which has their fundamentals strength when comes to Investment opportunities, .IN has just 2 million names and many are open and available to hand register .. .IN is not about just 3l.in or 4l.in or 3n.in or 4n.in names ... There is so much vast space left out like keywords, geos , first names, last names, common tourist locations. Its not too faraway to see the .IN as the top 10 CCTLDs, if i am right next one million .IN registrations will come in 18 months time..
It took almost 7+ years to get the first one million registrations and 4 years to see the next million registrations ... Its a steady and healthy growth .IN extension has experienced and this is clearly aligned to internet users growth. If one agree or disagree this is the fact.
 
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And what would be your estimate of .com market share there? In other words, what % of businesses would have .com either as primary address or bought defensively for future growth?
While the question was not addressed to me, I might be able to provide some of the answers. In most European countries, the com/ccTLD axis occupies about 80% of the individual country domain name markets. Many of the Western European countries went ccTLD positive years ago. This means that there are more ccTLD domains registered in those markets than .com domains. The Eastern European countries tend to have slower growth in their ccTLDs and even in the gTLDs.

Consequently, the strong brand identity of the local ccTLD means that everyone expects a new business targeting customers in these countries to have a local ccTLD url. The .com TLD has effectively become a legacy TLD in some of these countries as new ccTLD registrations outnumber the new .com registrations.

Will post a table of gTLDs per country later tonight.

Regards...jmcc
 
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1. .in is a GREAT extension, the problem is its adaption by market in India
2. If I had enough time and less other opportunities, I would look at some great top 100-1000 keywords in English and Hindi (one word singular) to invest.
3. LLL.in is a good bet, but not at current reseller prices.
4. LLLL.in you'll need to hold for 5-10 years before you see any reasonable amount of offers from end users. It is money better invested elsewhere, in my opinion.

That is it. Don't have any agenda in regards to .in, and again, don't have anything to lose/gain from any changes to .in.

Don't have any Indian end users for my .coms/orgs etc to bother if they'd prefer .in now.

My only interaction with India is via getting web projects developed there.
 
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1. .in is a GREAT extension, the problem is its adaption by market in India
2. If I had enough time and less other opportunities, I would look at some great top 100-1000 keywords in English and Hindi (one word singular) to invest.
3. LLL.in is a good bet, but not at current reseller prices.
4. LLLL.in you'll need to hold for 5-10 years before you see any reasonable amount of offers from end users. It is money better invested elsewhere, in my opinion.

That is it. Don't have any agenda in regards to .in, and again, don't have anything to lose/gain from any changes to .in.

Don't have any Indian end users for my .coms/orgs etc to bother if they'd prefer .in now.

My only interaction with India is via getting web projects developed there.
Sure friend, i am not suspecting or calling you have agenda. A healthy discussion is only possible, when people with different opinion discussing about the same. I fully appreciate and acknowledge your reasons of sharing your knowledge.

I have been investing .IN from 8 years and into .COMs for 10 years. I do have 4l.com names, and few nice Geo names of India too including few statename .coms too. At the same time i do have lot of .IN names too.

I personally noticed .IN Investments are very attractive and I can see i have multiplied my revenues by few times. I have suggested many members on namepros to invest when lll.in are trading around 60 USD.
I still believe lll.in prices are under valued compare to other extensions.

Even going by your theory , lll.com avg price for even lower quality ones is around 20K at reseller level, if for a end user perhaps it could be easily 50k USD. now 1% 50K is 500 USD . At present LLL.in are available at 350 USD each for resellers and to end users perhaps around 800 USD to 1000 USD for lower ones. I am taking about avg prices. so on Avg lll.in prices are less 2% of the lll.com prices.

Until unless lll.com prices crash and go down a lot , LLL.in prices will not impact as LLL.com prices are going up its certainly benefit LLL.in investors too.. I sincerely believe the LLL.in should at least worth between 7 to 9% of the LLL.com names. Just my thought process.
 
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@heavend , I completely agree with LeDomain in what he is saying and also with Domainpundit. There are many stats out there in regards to how many English speakers there are in India and how many are fluently conversant in English. But one important factor is as LeDomain has stated above, even though not all Indians are fluent in English and may not be entirely comfortable in having a conversation in English, there are many Indians that are! Also, most Indians generally do know at least 2,3 or even 4 languages and the ones whom may only know their own local language still have a mediocre understanding of English too, as it is taught in schools from a young age.

As explained by the above posts, English is the ONLY language that can be used to communicate across the WHOLE of India. In the north, both English and Hindi are considered national languages and are used to communicate across states but Hindi is not really used in the South of India, therefore in the South, English is really the only medium through which one can communicate with another from another state. Therefore if one was to pick a language in which one could communicate to another from ANY STATE across the WHOLE OF INDIA then it would be English. Plus there are many TV channels, print publications in English in India and IT IS the only PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS LANGUAGE of India.

Secondly the constitution of India requires the authoritative text of all laws, including Parliamentary enactments and statutory instruments, to be in English. The constitution also states that all proceedings in the Supreme Court of India, the country's highest court and the High Courts, shall be in English. Most administrative government documents are either in English or Hindi.

I agree with LeDomain, that India either has already or will very soon become the largest English language population online......and on top of that, it is increasing day by day, things have just started.
 
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Glad you asked, hopefully the various responses will help others also considering .in :)

1500, wow! ....... You have 1500 and you asked for clarification, I wonder how much that 1500 will grow to next year now? 2x? 5x?

btw, this makes me wonder what your full portfolio is? 1500 x 100?! ;) (y)

;) I have been trading domain names since 1999. I have a few names in my portfolio. A sample of our names is located on heavendomains.com website. btw, yesterday I registered heavendomains.in, since I think it's going to be a major part of our future business and development.
 
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Even Bangladesh gets more of western production.

Since you haven't been able to respond back , I found out myself as to where India ranks.

Please see the UN report on where India ranks in terms of Manufacturing Countries:
http://www.financialexpress.com/art...e-in-top-10-manufacturers-list-report/232041/

The top manufacturing countries are:
  1. China
  2. US
  3. Japan
  4. Germany
  5. Korea
  6. India
The top 5 countries above India DOES NOT include Bangladesh.

Why are you even comparing to European countries where local cctld registrations are at 1 name per 4-5 people, instead of .us comparison where 1 name per 200 is more relevant to India's 1 name per 650 people.

Accordingly, LLL.in should not cost more than LLL.us (close to reg fee currently for wholesale) and LLLL.in should be compared to LLLL.us (bunch of choices to reg freely).

You are basically trying to fit a square in a circle. This way of arriving at the relative pricing of LLL.IN to LLL.US, although novel is meaningless to say the least. You are so trying to prove that .us is similar to .in . But the ground realities are different . I visit India ever so often (every 2-3 years) . And with each visit, not only do I see the increasing use of domains in advertising, but slowly and surely .in claiming the share from .com

As I have seen today, the use of .com and .in in advertising seems to be about 50%-50%

It was never this high for .us.
 
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That's why so many dropped .INs (2005/2006) from German-investors?
Do you feel the difference between sponsorship and investing?
And Yes, you may freeze your money for 5 and more years with hope to be in profit...

About growth-reasons...
I don't see mass enduser-demand...
Just Chinese buyouts for one year and speculators on forums...
Those Germans "dropped" because of lack of patience and foresight,which is a bit dissapointing. Many of those names could be worth x,xxx to resellers today. But they didnt believe, so they've lost out.
Our money is on the line so why would we sponsor? we are first investing, all else is secondary. We do have passion, and that keeps us going through the tough times. Nay sayers will in the end give us their expected rhetorical line...."if i had known"(like LLL.com disbelievers and former owners who also dropped are saying). But offcourse we will keep holding, thats the nature of business, you cant win if you dont play. and u know the best part? We are still net up because our names have no lost any value. Its a beautiful position to be in as a domainer when you can sell any of your names for initial purchase price + a little extra money. But when will you face the fact that you just cant see or believe in the opportunity? maybe you're also impatient like your friends who dropped earlier on. Your negative energy is not enough to dampen optimism about .in. remember that!
 
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@Jurgen Wolf, you don't see end user demand in a country whose population has reached nearly 1.3 Billion and whose economy is ALREADY now serving as the engine of global growth? With the middle class growing massively. India is already replacing China as the center of the world’s oil demand growth as it’s economy expands faster than any other major country and a growing middle class has more money to spend. In terms of grwoth, India is now currently where China was in the late 90s as China itself slows down. And you are saying that you don't see any end user demand in domain names? All of these factors and more are already creating a massive surge in end user demand from companies whom want to cater which will only accelerate even more towards the end of this year as the rest of India starts to come online with the introduction of 4G and government subsidised fibre optic broadband.
 
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