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People seem to take for granted just how early the internet has been around in comparison to even our recent history. We are in the equivalent of the early 1940's as far the development of television was concerned. Look where the TV is now?

The web is still in diapers and many of the .TV names we are buying today in some cases will put our grandchildren through school. There is no telling how high the value of this real estate alone can climb. More important, what other models of revenue will take off besides the traditional .com traffic model?

To dig your feet in the sand and ignore this is foolish but I'm thankful for all the .com hardliners out there. They are naive to think there .com names are untouchable. The beautiful thing to me is that time and time again people that missed the first .com land rush have chased the .com phenomenon with other TLD's like .us .info and .mobi when right under there nose was the true challenger all along .TV Yes it was a country code, yes there were premiums, yes there were early marketing mishaps, that's what threw those people off the scent. .TV was always a different animal and thus albeit a few people on this board many turned there nose to .tv. Make no mistake many on this board will tell you, it has been a long journey to get where we are today, but the technology needed to catch up with the extension and it finally has.

I am still relatively new to .TV I started buying names and tracking it in October 2005. in just two short years I have seen tremendous growth and movement in both development and the aftermarket. IMO we are still near the ground floor in terms of where the .TV space is headed. The extension will grow and mature and premiums will be looked on as good business moves and profitable endeavors. Once again a different model then .com. .com is not going anywhere but there is room for both and IMO it isn't close as to what the 2nd best .TLD will be long-term.

My personal feeling is the premiums will turn out to be a great thing for those of us with the foresight to move on them when we did. I agree with Equity when he says that if not for the premiums many people would be left in the dust on some great names. However, what also gets overlooked as the number of great .tv names not in the premium system that can still be had on the aftermarket in the $500 to 2K range. That said, the time is here IMO when the cost of premium fees will be nothing more then a write off for money making businesses.

To me a name like PalmSprings.tv for $500 a year is dirt cheap in comparison with the commercial potential for the name. Personally I'd rather own PalmSprings.tv then any other Palm Springs TLD except of course PalmSprings.com (and that goes for all Geo.tv's by the way)

In many cases we are talking about buying premium names that are 500-1K a year, that are conducive to video, where the .com alternative would be 7+ figures easy. Do the math, 1K a year for a very brand-able name that IMO in many cases can end up being superior to the .com counterpart. History will look upon many of the premiums bought during the last 2 years as steals IMO.

In more and more cases KeywordChannel names and other video related regs are only being picked up in either .com or .tv. I know I'm finding and dealing with more and more people in the entertainment industry who now not only find .TV as a suitable alt to .com but feel that it is a fresh and innovative way to brand their Online Content sites.

As we all know, video and the net have converged and now it is getting to the point that all types of sites will have video, to promote products, ideas (vlogs), or just keep you entertained while shopping. More and more people will be snapping up names in the aftermarket as the public catches on with the extension and the big time entertainment companies start pumping ad money into .TV awareness.

See one thing about guys like Frank Schilling and Rick Schwartz I don't understand is that they seem so blinded by the business model of .com traffic which is obviously great and speaks for itself, but to say .tv has no future is very very misguided IMO. .TV presents an opportunity of a different kind. One that has inherent branding already built in with two letters that are more popular then .com worldwide and those are TV.

As the public continues to identify .tv for online video, as the net and the TV platform continue to converge, the public (as Hollywood already is) will look at .TV as a viable space and in some cases a preferred space for media. Obviously Schilling and Schwartz are brilliant guys in many ways and I fully give them credit for what they have done which is nothing short of astonishing, but the point here isn't that those guys will go out of business. Far from it, they will continue to succeed to extraordinary levels, and are big enough that as .TV takes off they will still be able to get into the game if they want to pay 5X the market value now and not even blink, but for people that simply pass on .TV and continue to have blinders on this will be a missed opportunity in my book.

Actually through the history of business this is more the rule rather then the exception.

Yahoo is doing great even though it passed on buying Google for 1 million.

IBM is still a monster company even though it chose not to buy Microsoft's operating software and instead license it.

Hewlett-Packard is still a huge company even though it passed on its ownership rights to the Apple Computer.

The question is not if .TV will take off, if you look back over the last few years you would understand it already has begun to take off. Now its just a matter of how far it will go in the coming years. Get used to more .comers coming into our space and with it a nice healthy infusion of cash to make up for lost time. :)
 
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Great post Poodle :)

I have only been involved in .tv for around 10 Months though i have seen massive change in how many sales there is, the price increases of course, the number of new faces on the forum and most pleasing for me is the number of developed .tv's you see daily while browsing, when watching TV or used in advertisements all over the place.

I feel it is vital we dont jump to conclusions like so many people have over what is going to happen long term for .tv and we keep our eye on the view over the next 3,5 years rather than the next few weeks.

Over the past few months i have taken stock of my .tv buys and holdings as i noticed how big this thing could really be and how my confidence in the .tv future has grown. Now i dont reg lots of names and try to concentrate on names i will be happy to pay the reg fee for 3 years minium, i want to move into the next stage of .tv with 10 - 20 excellent .tv's rtaher than 100+ average/poor .tv's.

Each time i give the future of .tv a long thought then i come across different conclusions as things have moved soooo fast which we tend not to notice when we are busy working, regging & developing.

One important thing i have found out over the past month is the power of the letters 'TV' have in the general public eyes.
I have been working on a .tv which essentially will be a Business Directory with Video's to introduce each section.
When i 1st spoke with business owners about Sponsorship then one of the 1st questions would be about '.TV' and asking what it meant.
When i explained a little about .tv, gave examples of developed .tv's and spoke a little about the vision of the future of Video/The Internet/.tv then almost everyone became excited about this venture and was desperate for their companies to be involved in something which they felt was revelotionary :hehe:
So now i will market my site as "The 1st Ever Internet TV Channel for ______" and use the power of they 2 little letters and the excitement they cuase to those who are bored of advertising on text based websites that all look similar.

I better go and get working on my 1st .tv development again now or there will be NO future for me :hehe:

Cheers,
Ronnie
 
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A fantastic post Poodle. Really well thought out and articulated. If anyone ever feels a bit down about .tv for what ever reason, then just come back and read it again. Thank you Poodle! :)
 
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Great post!

Great post poodleman... I agree with you 110%. I got involved with .tv in 2000, right around when it was just starting to be recognized (nowhere near what it is now). Even back then it just made so much sense and it is great to see how the .tv extension is catching on bigtime all over. I was watching the UFC the other nite and I noticed almost every fighter had a .tv website.. then when I went to use the guide on my tv I noticed how many actual tv channels where starting have there website as the channel (E.G. Gamer.tv).

My point is that .tv is starting to be utilized in a more everyday fashion... I see a .tv website of something almost daily.. and that is very comforting for the future.

I have great stock in the .tv domains I have and will be looking to 3-5 years from now.

Cheers!!
 
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Thanks guys for the feedback it is much appreciated. :)
 
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Excellent post. I -LOVE- some of my names, and reading your post just made me feel all that much better about them. Several, yes, are second tier. But a few of them are going to anchor my online career, and sooner rather than later.
 
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Very informative and encouraging posts. I learned quite a few things. Thanks folks.

GameHouse
 
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Great Post, Rep Added.

I believe that in the near future, just like every business needs a website, every business will need a video site. It may take 3-5 years, but in my opinion it will happen. Just like most companies are beginning to realize they need a blog. Some have a blog page connected to their existing site and some use a totally new URL.

You will start seeing on business cards:

www.MyCompany.com
www.MyCompany.Blogs.com
www.MyCompany.tv
 
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Indeed, nice 'perspective' post... with good analogies.
 
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Great Post! dot TV will rule the online video world and i iagree--the arrogance and short sightedness of the big dot com-mers is unbelievable--to our advantage!
 
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Good stuff poodle. I was waiting for a thread like this so I can refer to it everytime some bonehead writes a post about how he has solely determined what will or will not work with .TV's or whatever in the future.

Big ups. Rep added.
 
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Nice posts all, esp Poodle and mckenna-->

I almost feel like I need to just put domaining/Namepros out of my mind for like the next 5-7 years and let my prime .tvs age gracefully because I have the fear that in 3 years time my .tvs that I am already getting four figure offers on will be getting offers that will be too hard to pass up, but that the real $$$$ will be more in the 7 year range.

..But I can't stay away :)
 
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An article fitting for publication....with great company references......

my one concern is if .tv will end up as a fashion accessory or a must have element of a companies marketing line

Fashions change and what may now be hip, may be quite easily be passe in a few years time.

But if we can compare .TV to the rise of the blog phenomenon, as Searching Tv puts out there, then that bodes extremely well for the extension...
 
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Well done !!!!!! me only involved in .tv for the last 2 months , work dropped off and i spent some time looking into .tv , after owning plenty of .coms. Decided that .tv will be the future and i better get involved quickly !!!! grabbed about 30 or so .tvs , wanted plenty more ...... but the budget is the budget !!!! i will be at home on some saturday nights to pay for these in the future ....... and well worth it i say , i think perhaps a truely great opportunity for all invovled ....... it just makes so much sense .
I see some of the names reg here and go wow i wish i thought of that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but i got mine and i am happy , good luck to all i say , its a great thing to be involved in
cheers
thanks for confirming my views
 
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I remember in 2000 when I start buying .tv names everybody laughed at me.
Now who is getting the last laugh. I am so glad everybody on this forum has caught the vision for all of us to become successful.
 
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discovernow said:
I remember in 2000 when I start buying .tv names everybody laughed at me.
Now who is getting the last laugh. I am so glad everybody on this forum has caught the vision for all of us to become successful.

Can I ask which names you still have from 2000?
 
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I got these in 2000 all with yearly renewal of $24.95.

HeadlineNews.tv
HousesForSale.tv
Latins.tv
Laughlin.tv
Netcasting.tv
Pornografia.tv
ProBasketball.tv
 
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Poodleman, thanks, great read. Well thought out & organized. This should definitely be published to a broader audience! Cheers, CarryOn
 
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discovernow said:
I got these in 2000 all with yearly renewal of $24.95.

HeadlineNews.tv
HousesForSale.tv
Latins.tv
Laughlin.tv
Netcasting.tv
Pornografia.tv
ProBasketball.tv

No offense but those were the best you could get in 2000? :-/
 
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The best of the best were premium and I was not willing to pay that amount at that time. However, of those 7 that I have gotten they have all received offers in the past. Therefore, I can't complain of the ROI those names will bring.

Thanks, Jim
 
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