domain PropertyMortgageBroker.com

[Mikha1L]

Hello Appraisers,
Would appreciate appraisal for PropertyMortgageBroker.com

A Property Mortgage Broker is a professional who acts as an intermediary between loan customers and the lending institutions who offer their mortgage products. In some instances mortgage brokers specialise, for instance a property and investment mortgage broker specialises in appropriate lending finance for those buyers seeking to purchase an investment property whilst considering their long term portfolio goals.

 

[ValleyRock]

I am strongly confident that this name is tool long. Statistically, after 15 characters, the value of a domain begin to go south.

 

[Mikha1L]

I am strongly confident that this name is tool long. Statistically, after 15 characters, the value of a domain begin to go south.

Thank you webscent for your review. I believe a longer domain name is usually easier by memory - for example, "gaepw.com" is a sequence of unrelated letters that is difficult to remember and type correctly, whereas if we expand it to its long form, "GetAnEconomicallyPricedWebsite.com", we are more likely to remember the domain name.

 

[ValleyRock]

Your mistaken in this case.

I have not only read this but made statistical inference into the correlation of the length of a domain name and the price. My research showed it is highly correlated.

Most of all you need to consider the "cost of commuting" to a domain. The longer a domain name, the harder it is to type it into a browser or right it down or remember. You dont remember long name, its the short domain names you remember.

My site will be ready soon and I will be posting all the statistical research I have made into the value of a domain name.

 

[Mikha1L]

Your mistaken in this case.

I have not only read this but made statistical inference into the correlation of the length of a domain name and the price. My research showed it is highly correlated.

Most of all you need to consider the "cost of commuting" to a domain. The longer a domain name, the harder it is to type it into a browser or right it down or remember. You dont remember long name, its the short domain names you remember.

My site will be ready soon and I will be posting all the statistical research I have made into the value of a domain name.

Fair enough mate. I value your opinion but here is a realistic scenario: Matt is a Property Mortgage Broker. I meet Matt at a conference in Hawaii and we share a few things on real estate and property. He invites me to check his in depth research on the property mortgage sector post GFC and where is headed. I am curious and ask for his details. He flicks his card and it's got his details as below:

Matt Dyson
Consultant & Broker
Property Mortgage Broker.com
0988 7466 XXX

I somehow lose the card. What was this guy again??? Oh yeah property mortgage broker.com
So I might have missed PMB.com but I'd remember a "Property Mortgage Broker"
Cheers

 

[james haw]

I am strongly confident that this name is tool long. Statistically, after 15 characters, the value of a domain begin to go south.

I don't think anything in life is so black and white, especially marketplaces, and this entirely depends on the name and keywords.
eg:
https://namebio.com/?s=gMyIjN1ETN
I wouldn't mind owning some of those "gone south" long 6 figure names

Even being more up to date and sorted for most recent it's pretty good:
https://namebio.com/?s=AN0MjN1ETN

I believe a longer domain name is usually easier by memory

How can more characters (more to remember) be easier to remember? Shorter and to the point are easier to remember (and type, and look better etc).

The only way longer is better is when shorter means loss of meaning by shortening keywords and losing meaning, or missing them out completely etc.

All of this also entirely depends on the keywords, such things really are not black and white (first is better, by far):
Casino.com VS AmazingCasino.com
ShoesOnline.com VS WeSellShoesOnline.com


As for your name specifically, I think the keywords are strong and very popular and form a popular search term. I think you could get $xxx, possibly more with enough time and effort and the right end user

 

[Joe N]

I'm having trouble seeing any value, personally. It takes more than strong keywords to make a decent name. It also has to make sense. I could go out and register CarsInsuranceBrokerLoans, but who would use it?

Clearly this one isn't as ridiculous as my example, but there's no such thing as a Property Mortgage Broker (the OP's definition is that of a mortgage broker). As such, no companies/brokers use this term in their business name or in their domain name. Not an upgrade to any existing domain, plus not a desirable term for a new broker... not a valuable combination.

This one is reg fee value, until it's developed to generate leads.

 

[Mikha1L]

I'm having trouble seeing any value, personally. It takes more than strong keywords to make a decent name. It also has to make sense. I could go out and register CarsInsuranceBrokerLoans, but who would use it?

Clearly this one isn't as ridiculous as my example, but there's no such thing as a Property Mortgage Broker (the OP's definition is that of a mortgage broker). As such, no companies/brokers use this term in their business name or in their domain name. Not an upgrade to any existing domain, plus not a desirable term for a new broker... not a valuable combination.

This one is reg fee value, until it's developed to generate leads.

From where you see, it has no relevance. From where I sit, it has a pool of Chinese millionaires who want to invest with a limited knowledge of keywords and domain names but millions of dollars that are to be invested in something that is not made anymore...Property and if I was one and looking for a loophole to invest and know the basic words/keywords I'd do a bit of salsa with these 3 words --- property, mortgage and broker
The OP invests from a laymans point of view and gains from experience. That being said, I respect and appreciate your opinion.
Cheers

 

[Joe N]

From where you see, it has no relevance. From where I sit, it has a pool of Chinese millionaires who want to invest with a limited knowledge of keywords and domain names but millions of dollars that are to be invested in something that is not made anymore...Property and if I was one and looking for a loophole to invest and know the basic words/keywords I'd do a bit of salsa with these 3 words --- property, mortgage and broker
The OP invests from a laymans point of view and gains from experience. That being said, I respect and appreciate your opinion.
Cheers

That's a fair hypothesis, but where are you going to find these Chinese millionaires?

Not trying to be a troll... I'm quite new at this myself. But one of the first lessons I learned is that no one is actively looking for your domain names. No one. Unless they're of very high quality. If you want to sell the other ones, you need to know how to get them in front of the right people, at the right time, and the right price. Beyond that it's a lottery.

If you do have a list of viable buyers, you need to be able to tell them why your name is desirable, particularly when they could hand register any of the following names right now:

• mortgagebrokeragent
• mortgagebrokerowner
• mortgagebrokercity
• seniormortgagebrokers
• agmortgagebroker
• mortgagebrokermastery
• and about a dozen other geo specific names containing "mortgagebroker"

So I'm just trying to give you some perspective. I bought a lot of crappy names during my first few weeks - with real words stuck together that kind of made sense - expecting that they would sell themselves. They don't.

 

[Mikha1L]

That's a fair hypothesis, but where are you going to find these Chinese millionaires?

Not trying to be a troll... I'm quite new at this myself. But one of the first lessons I learned is that no one is actively looking for your domain names. No one. Unless they're of very high quality. If you want to sell the other ones, you need to know how to get them in front of the right people, at the right time, and the right price. Beyond that it's a lottery.

If you do have a list of viable buyers, you need to be able to tell them why your name is desirable, particularly when they could hand register any of the following names right now:

• mortgagebrokeragent
• mortgagebrokerowner
• mortgagebrokercity
• seniormortgagebrokers
• agmortgagebroker
• mortgagebrokermastery
• and about a dozen other geo specific names containing "mortgagebroker"

So I'm just trying to give you some perspective. I bought a lot of crappy names during my first few weeks - with real words stuck together that kind of made sense - expecting that they would sell themselves. They don't.

This crappy domain cost me 0.99 cents to register (less than a pack of chewing gum) and I already have a $$$$ offer on it from a mortgage broker as I own the other specific TLD. But with all due respect, thank you for the list of examples as I just scored another one (for a pack of chewing gum) that is more potent in attracting the millionaires with the suburb I live in and a close chinese friend who runs a print business and will print me 200 flyers in chinese with the right content for a 6 pack of Corona and 1 large BBQ meatlovers pizza PS: I ain't new to the game and never bought something I couldn't spit like a chewing gum. Cheers

 

[Joe N]

Wow, awesome! Nice job. Happy to be proven wrong, and I'm looking forward to reading about the confirmed sale.

 

[biggie]

I already have a $$$$ offer on it from a mortgage broker as I own the other specific TLD.

Hi

that info probably should have been included in your initial post.

Good Luck!

 

[Mikha1L]

Hi

that info probably should have been included in your initial post.

Good Luck!

Thanks but I ain't selling for what has been offered a few hours ago. I will send a counter offer tomorrow while I focus on things that are more important than a pack of chewing gum

 

[ZapNano]

That's a fair hypothesis, but where are you going to find these Chinese millionaires?

Not trying to be a troll... I'm quite new at this myself. But one of the first lessons I learned is that no one is actively looking for your domain names. No one. Unless they're of very high quality. If you want to sell the other ones, you need to know how to get them in front of the right people, at the right time, and the right price. Beyond that it's a lottery.

If you do have a list of viable buyers, you need to be able to tell them why your name is desirable, particularly when they could hand register any of the following names right now:

• mortgagebrokeragent
• mortgagebrokerowner
• mortgagebrokercity
• seniormortgagebrokers
• agmortgagebroker
• mortgagebrokermastery
• and about a dozen other geo specific names containing "mortgagebroker"

So I'm just trying to give you some perspective. I bought a lot of crappy names during my first few weeks - with real words stuck together that kind of made sense - expecting that they would sell themselves. They don't.

I'm sorry, these domains you provided does not have specific direction and aim. "PropertyMortgageBroker" is 3 blending and connected pieces; togetherness. A phrase that is commonly being used everyday, so therefore it's not difficult to remember.

 

[Joe N]

I'm sorry, these domains you provided does not have specific direction and aim. "PropertyMortgageBroker" is 3 blending and connected pieces; togetherness. A phrase that is commonly being used everyday, so therefore it's not difficult to remember.

Well that's the thing... it's not a commonly used phrase. Keyword Planner shows that the phrase only gets 10 monthly searches. I've never heard of a Property Mortgage Broker. It's redundant. It's like calling someone a Food Chef or an Animal Veterinarian or a Word Author.

It's a domain with three keywords squished together. But the OP lives in a neighbourhood of Chinese millionaires who are eager to spend four figures on these kinds of names, which sounds pretty sweet. And if true, then he's sitting on a virtual gold mine, because there are all kinds of gems available for registration right now:

• TopInsuranceBroker.com
• InsuranceBrokerFirm.com
• FineInsuranceBrokers.com
• AllInsuranceBroker.com
• TheBusinessInsuranceBroker.com
• PropertyMortgageLenders.com

There, I just made the OP an easy five figure payday. I should get a finders fee.

 

[Mikha1L]

Well that's the thing... it's not a commonly used phrase. Keyword Planner shows that the phrase only gets 10 monthly searches. I've never heard of a Property Mortgage Broker. It's redundant. It's like calling someone a Food Chef or an Animal Veterinarian or a Word Author.

It's a domain with three keywords squished together. But the OP lives in a neighbourhood of Chinese millionaires who are eager to spend four figures on these kinds of names, which sounds pretty sweet. And if true, then he's sitting on a virtual gold mine, because there are all kinds of gems available for registration right now:

• TopInsuranceBroker.com
• InsuranceBrokerFirm.com
• FineInsuranceBrokers.com
• AllInsuranceBroker.com
• TheBusinessInsuranceBroker.com
• PropertyMortgageLenders.com

There, I just made the OP an easy five figure payday. I should get a finders fee.

I like you Joe, you've got a broad mindset. Comes handy in a closed environment
Cheers

 

[Joe N]

I like you Joe, you've got a broad mindset. Comes handy in a closed environment
Cheers

Don't forget my finders fee! Also available for your personal website:

ChineseMillionaireDomainBroker.com

CMDB for short, but don't bother with that... It's hard to remember.

 

[johname]

An $xxxx offer on a less than two month hand reg with no easy to find proir history sounds like a good deal. Just roll with it Bro. Good Luck

 

[svede]

Thank you webscent for your review. I believe a longer domain name is usually easier by memory - for example, "gaepw.com" is a sequence of unrelated letters that is difficult to remember and type correctly, whereas if we expand it to its long form, "GetAnEconomicallyPricedWebsite.com", we are more likely to remember the domain name.

The basic premise of "I believe a longer domain name is usually easier by memory" goes against common sense and basic domaining principles. You are comparing a 5 seemingly random letter non-pronounceable domain to a 5 word domain. That scenario you gave might work, but its a crafted scenario whereas 9 out of 10 times the shorter domain wins.

To me "property morgage broker" seems repetitive. You don't need both "property" and "mortgage" in there. The value is more in the industry and the difficulty in finding any good 1-2 word domains for it. Just like as 4L domains dry up, 5L domains become more valuable. I still don't see it as one that would have much more than hit or miss value. The keywords aren't searched and are confusing/repetitive. You are going to need to bank it on a buyer wanting to name/brand themselves that way because they can't afford a more expensive domain.

That being said, if you truly have a valid offer (and not a scam offer), then take it and run. I can't imagine this domain getting another 4 figure offer anytime soon.

Hope this helps and wish you the best!

 

[svede]

From where you see, it has no relevance. From where I sit, it has a pool of Chinese millionaires who want to invest with a limited knowledge of keywords and domain names but millions of dollars that are to be invested in something that is not made anymore...Property and if I was one and looking for a loophole to invest and know the basic words/keywords I'd do a bit of salsa with these 3 words --- property, mortgage and broker
The OP invests from a laymans point of view and gains from experience. That being said, I respect and appreciate your opinion.
Cheers

This is so backwards. Chinese millionaires (or any millionaires) do not blindly throw money when they have limited knowledge. They get people that DO have knowledge. They didn't make their money through blind investment. Have you worked with investors/Venture capitalists before? They make YOU work to ensure that you can prove their money is being well invested. And they do NOT trust a salesman - they do their own research (whether personally or through an employee/someone they trust). I do not mean this disrespectfully, but I really wish I lived in that world - all of us could become rich by coning those with money!

Again, that doesn't mean there is zero value, but your line of thinking suggests that you are new to this despite your claim that you are not. I mean this to generate deeper thinking on your part, not to argue with you.

Hope this helps!