Precedent setting ruling READ THIS

[AdsenseGuy]

Today I spent the day in court, As I have told you all previously I where I work. This gives me an advantage to an extent in information that may or not come to fruition, due to some contract restraints there is some information i can use to my advantage and some I cant. On that note please read on.

About a year ago i regged a domain googleemail.com and google caught wind of it and promptly issued me a UDRP, Guess what They won big surprise. While under the rules of NAF i was entitled to file court action to keep my domain, and the domain was to remain mine until the courts decided. My registrar ENOM was supposed to keep this domain locked and in my account until the court proceedings where finished. They did not do this what they actually did was let google's registrar have this domain and they placed it into googles account.

Well as of today and todays PRECEDENT setting ruling I have been granted by the courts I am the rightful owner of this domain as well as the courts have indicated that they see no trademark infringement, The order goes somewhat like this I am the owner of this domain and Enom should never have transfered this domain while it was under the courts juridiction, It is so ordered that the domain be transferred back into my name it is also ordered that I am given the right to sue Enom if they cannot get my domain back. I was also granted exclusive use and ownership of this domain. The judge also indicated that by google now being in posession of my legally owned domain that I may sue them for damages resulting if they refuse to hand it back over to me. I was also awarded damages in cash from this lawsuit.

My question to you all is as follows. I will not have a copy of the judgement transcript until Friday at the earliest. Once I have these documents I want them to hit the internet like wildfire can anyone here help me get these documents into the right hands. I will be sending ENOM and Google a copy of the transcript but I want this to be as public as possible. Google DIDNT win one for a change. The judge clearly and decisively covered all aspects concerning this ruling even more so than I expected. They have had my domain for 3 months now and I want it back to be able to do with it as I want. But I need your help fellow NPers I want the world to know what I have had to deal with and what ENOM did to me as the judge did not place any restrictions on publicity....OH isnt the IPO coming out soon.....

Please if you can help me I will remember your helpfulness Also Namepros was brought up in court and researched by the presiding judge for information.

Please post links or emails of media outlets that you think may be interested in recieving this information. I will attach the actual judgment transcript Friday afternoon

 

[dna]

Berry Hill owes all4cost a $100.

 

[Mark]

Nah - his deal was already called - and this is a typo type thing ......

Just had to look though

 

[wtfever]

Wasn't the claim (and JB's offer) about a bear from the movie Shrek? Any spelling, just anywhere in the movie as claimed?

Enjoy the $100, JB, you earned it for the most interesting thread ever here. I am curious if you know, JB, is Google's HR department involved at this point? The whole intellectual property thing and employees...some companies might look unkindly at the situation and have some hard questions of their own. Just seems like this might be a whole can of worms and I wondered what your take on that aspect of it was. Although from reading all the IPO business going on right now with them, this may be small potatoes in comparison.

 

[dna]

All these new members supporting berryhill.
This is the only place that wtfever has ever made a post.
Google is really committed to this attack on adsenseguy.

 

[bensontwenty]

Whether new or existing members, questions have been asked here that have not been answered dna - specifically those questions which would help prove AGs case. I myself have posed questions here which have been ignored such as my question about the intellectual property agreement between AG and google. In addition to that, we were promised a copy of the transcript would be shown a week ago and it has not materialised. When I read this post, I took AG at face value and was the first person to congratulate him - now however, because of his actions, I am questioning that congratulations and wondering what the hell is going on.

Namepros has a lot of guests that are on the boards constantly - just look at the user statistics. They are also Namepros Users who get what they need by browsing the site as opposed to posting in it. If this thread has convinced a few of them to sign up and post their opinions, does that make their opinions any less valid - IMO not.

J Berryhill is a well respected member of the domainers community on the Web - not necessarily Namepros, he posts on other domain forums a lot and I particularly welcome him finding his way to post here.

To all the other new members - Welcome to Namepros

 

[Matt]

Welp, thought i would catch up with the latest on this thread, only to find no Adsense Guy for a while. Last posted : 08-07-2004 01:06 AM

Hope he wasnt abducted by Google Management and hidden in there underground torture suits?

 

[dna]

WRONG Bensontwenty.
You can't even see this thread unless you join.
And all these Google shills have just joined.

 

[wlspro]

Originally posted by dna
WRONG Bensontwenty.
You can't even see this thread unless you join.
And all these Google shills have just joined.

You saying these oldtimers are Google fans?

Bensontwenty - Member Since: Jul 2003
sy4.com - Member Since: Jul 2003
armstrong - Member Since: Jul 2003
Coastalguy - Member Since: Aug 2003
Grrilla - Member Since: Sep 2003
All4cost - Member Since: Mar 2004

And these newer members are more honest?

dna - Member Since: Apr 2004
AdsenseGuy - Member Since: May 2004

 

[wtfever]

Wow...2 very mildly worded posts saying I thought a thread was interesting and asking a question makes me one of the "Google shills?"

I find the entire NP site educational and helpful. I visited it as a non-member several times before finally signing up, and I signed up before this thread ever began. I certainly have not attacked anyone and it seems the mods are doing a good job making sure there are no attacks on either side (with the exception of some of us being called Google shills, I guess). There are some humorous elements to this thread (come on, the $100 for the Shrek bear thing was pretty funny!) and the original court documents were really interesting. Sorry if I offended you by posting, dna. I honestly don't know who's right or wrong here - it's still an interesting thread.

And thank you for the welcome, Bensontwenty.

 

[Grrilla]

All these new members supporting berryhill.
This is the only place that wtfever has ever made a post.
Google is really committed to this attack on adsenseguy.

Conspiracy theory? Another interesting possibility, w/o a factual basis, is added to the mix. This thread becomes more intriguing by the day.
I have had direct dealings w/ Google's TM department this month. Google doesn't impress me, at all, as being the type of company that would enlist shill posters to aid in their cause. Ethically, they came across as being well above that sort of tactic, which is more than I can say for some of the posts I have read here, regarding ethics.
Initially, I came down strongly on the side of the domainers case, but midway through the thread, chose to reserve any judgement until more was revealed, and now am beginning to have my doubts about the legitimacy of AG's claims. (Not that my judgement matters a hoot in regards to the disposition of the case.):lol:

 

[Matt]

lol..calm down lads.

I may just be a very old "shrill"
To be honest, I dont follow alot of this legal thread..I just pop up now and then lol

btw, welcome to you both


Michael...umm, read last post...Told you it was a conspiricy lol

Rgds
Matt

 

[armstrong]

Originally posted by wtfever
Wow...2 very mildly worded posts saying I thought a thread was interesting and asking a question makes me one of the "Google shills?"

Welcome to namepros, wtf? :hehe:

Indeed, this is one of the most interesting threads in NP that I can recall. Thanks to AG for starting the thread, and to JB for his thorough research. Now if only we can get the rest of the story...

 

[dna]

Wlspro,

You joined this forum in August 2004.
You have 10 posts on this thread and none anywhere else.
You are definitely here with a purpose.
Obviously, the same purpose as Berry Hill.
There are definitely people that joined this
forum for no other purpose than to
discredit and ridicule Adsenseguy.
And you posted his identity so that any forum
member could see it after he had clearly
indicated that he wanted his privacy respected.
You should have been banned
from the forum for that.
Why don’t you identify yourself?

 

[wlspro]

Originally posted by dna
Wlspro,

You joined this forum in August 2004.
You have 10 posts on this thread and none anywhere else.

Congratulations - you have discovered how to use the “profile” link on the page.

Originally posted by dna
You are definitely here with a purpose.
Obviously, the same purpose as Berry Hill.

We both share in the desire to enlighten the simple minded members here who believed the obvious false story reported on this tread. No ulterior motives. It is very difficult for some of us to simply walk away when confronted with a group of spectators praising and congratulating the snake oil salesman for the wonders he has achieved with his magical potion.

The sole motive has been to educate our fellow domainers so they can decipher fact from fiction based on common sense and nothing more.

Originally posted by dna
There are definitely people that joined this
forum for no other purpose than to
discredit and ridicule Adsenseguy.

The credit or discredit derives from AdsenseGuy’s responses, or lack thereof, and not by those posing simple, polite, and common sense questions.

Originally posted by dna
And you posted his identity so that any forum
member could see it after he had clearly
indicated that he wanted his privacy respected.

His intent as repeatedly indicated on this same thread has been publicizing this court case. Court cases and parties to those cases are a matter of public information. It is simply impossible to publicize a case without divulging the identity of the parties. We have only abided by his wishes.

Furthermore you should remember that he improperly posted links to JB’s personal information, along with unquestionably defamatory and impolite remarks with the excuse that this information is a matter of public record. We only followed the standard set by him.

Originally posted by dna
You should have been banned
from the forum for that.

Banning is at the discretion of the NP moderators. They are free to unilaterally ban me or any other party which they believe violates the terms of use of this forum. We are all guests here.

Originally posted by dna
Why don’t you identify yourself?

Better not identify oneself than to falsely indicate your name and contact info as:
AdsenseGuy, Google employee, aka Googleemail, 666 Screw You Lane, Bite Me, CA 90210. If I was publicizing a genuine court case I would most certainly state the names of the parties along with other relevant facts repeatedly asked and to date unanswered.

In the meantime you may think of me as Googlee Bear’s distant cousin.

 

[Grrilla]

ROTFLAPMP!

 

[Darkfire001]

Well said WLSPro, althrough not all of us like to be thought of as "Simple Minded"

Perhaps, Too trusting is a better use of words

Hope WLSPro, and JB continue to be productive members of this community.

 

[bensontwenty]

Originally posted by dna
WRONG Bensontwenty.
You can't even see this thread unless you join.
And all these Google shills have just joined.

Actually you aren't quite correct on that one dna. This thread started out in a public forum before it was moved by the mods to the Legal Issues & Disputes area. This I believe was done to give AG the benefit of the doubt whilst the issue was debated. Once it had been moved quests would have been unable to read it and would have needed to register to continue following it.

Which just goes to show that interesting threads encourage new members to sign up and IMO explains the reason why people have joined this forum to simply view this thread. No ulterior motives, just a desire to continue reading an informative and interesting thread.

The domain community is small - I know a lot of people on this board but also know of other respected members of the community who post at other forums. Just because they are new here, doesn't mean they are new to the industry. It just means that they were concerned enough about this thread to sign up and join in the debate.

So please - no more personal attacks and inferences about Google Shills - thats not why I am here and I am quite sure it is not why most other people are here.

 

[dna]

Wlspro,

If it was allright for you to post Adsenseguy’s
name and address against his expressed wishes,
then you should be willing to post your own.
You have given up the right to hide under your rock
and throw poison darts. Tell us who
you are and who you work for and let us
decide if you have “no ulterior motives.”

 

[wlspro]

Originally posted by dna
Wlspro,
Tell us who you are and who you work for.

Like I said I am Googlee Bear's distant cousin.

My real name is Giglee.

I work with Googlee and AdsenseGuy at Google.

My address is 6668 Screw You Lane, Bite Me, CA 90210 - next door to Googlee and AdsenseGuy.

No I mean my address is 2038 Glenada, Oakville, Ontario L6H4M5 Canada.

No wait a minute I mean my address is 4438 Kalar Rd Niagara Falls , Ontario l2h1s8 Canada.

 

[dna]

I think your name is Cowardly-Google-Shill-Lawyer