Pattern in domain business.

[Zir0]

Appears the whole domain business bases it in the owners name and not so much about domain value. Even if you have a good domain you wont sell it if you dont have a known name in the domain business. Any agree?

 

[nicenic]

Appears the whole domain business bases it in the owners name and not so much about domain value. Even if you have a good domain you wont sell it if you dont have a known name in the domain business. Any agree?

I think domain name value still plays a role. A good domain name can have value even if it is held by an average person.

 

[Kyle Tully]

Appears the whole domain business bases it in the owners name and not so much about domain value. Even if you have a good domain you wont sell it if you dont have a known name in the domain business. Any agree?

No.

Buyers generally have zero clue who owns the name.

"Known" people are known because they have good names and talk about their sales.

Everyone complaining about poor sales has crap names.

 

[eyedomainous]

Yes.
Like in real estate, art sales, or virtually any merchandise on the market.
Who the seller is adds value, and is always a major buy motivation.
It's called Provenance. If you got it, use it! More power to ya!

But, to the OP's point, there is an (unfair) pattern in the domain business.

Electronic Transmissions are not protected communications -like a phone call. Instead they are almost always "tapped" to leverage customer activities to create revenue for the ISP, web platform, forum, etc..

'Tapped' traffic can be redirected to benefit 'popular domainers', used by ISPs to group users into 'Red Lined' communities, or, next year, when the global rule (prohibiting duties or tariffs) on electronic transmissions expires... may well see Trump tariffs on foreign web traffic to the US.

 

[HotKey]

There's lots of moving parts, including who the seller is. But the "whole" domain business isn't based on that though I'd imagine it plays a significant role.

 

[Kyle Tully]

There's lots of moving parts, including who the seller is. But the "whole" domain business isn't based on that though I'd imagine it plays a significant role.

Vast majority of retail sales happen at Afternic.

Buyer has no idea who the seller is.

High end sales often via brokers, again the buyer usually has no idea who the seller is.

Explain how this is a "significant" role.

 

[Zir0]

They could be checking whois.

 

[Kyle Tully]

They could be checking whois.

Large percent are under privacy.

And even the best known domain investors are nobodies in the real world.

But just to get your logic straight, you think business owners are looking up domain names, seeing who owns them, and being so spectacularly impressed that they’re paying hundreds of thousands (or millions) of dollars extra for the “privilege “ of buying from such esteemed domain squatters rather than buying your equally good names… because you just don’t have a well known name?

 

[Zir0]

Yeah people buy from famous name owners. I have good maaaany good comains and little sales so it just shows.

 

[VivifyDomains]

Yeah people buy from famous name owners. I have good maaaany good comains and little sales so it just shows

Can you list some of them?

 

[Zir0]

I had many good before. Dont remember them but for example casinobingo.net I sold it only for 1K even with a website.

 

[bmugford]

Appears the whole domain business bases it in the owners name and not so much about domain value. Even if you have a good domain you wont sell it if you dont have a known name in the domain business. Any agree?

Even the biggest domain investors are not like well known household names.

Most buyers just find a domain they like either via the registrar search path or lander and buy it. The owner rarely comes into play with the vast majority of sales.

Brad

 

[Kyle Tully]

I had many good before. Dont remember them but for example casinobingo.net I sold it only for 1K even with a website.

That is not a good domain name. (I can hand reg the co and org.) 1k was a perfectly fine result. That is not the type of name the “well known” guys are selling.

 

[Zir0]

Yes but I dont remember all my domains but I have had premium worth xx xxx but no sale. For example: padelai.com I got an offer of 200$ and had to sell it as people steal money from me and needed. This domain is worth at least 5K-20K. I also doubt it if another owner was there that payment would be paid half half, he wanted to be sure if he got the domain and paid half first half later.

 

[Leo2k]

Another reason could be, big investors can hold the domain for a long time until they get a good price that they expect.

Whereas small investors drop the domain during the renewal in one or two years and can't / won't hold it until the potential & capable buyer comes in looking for that domain name.

 

[HotKey]

Vast majority of retail sales happen at Afternic.

Buyer has no idea who the seller is.

High end sales often via brokers, again the buyer usually has no idea who the seller is.

Explain how this is a "significant" role.

Who you are, high-profile sellers, have an extremely broad reach where they can cause excitement over a domain or trend they're vested into, in many ways that can give an edge on the DN's seed opportunity. It can be subtle or blatantly obvious. Perhaps the buyer forgot why they like the name, but there was a reason it's in their mind.

You're right more than likely buyers don't know who the seller is, my point is in my eyes it can certainly have a significant role even if it's for related domains that the seller doesn't even own. There is the trust factor. You mentioned brokers. An owner who is known and proven in consistent good names will likely be better weighed thus worked for. There is a community within every industry. Where do you see opportunity source from? So a good name sells itself. Maybe maybe not. We tend to know who the seller was in most cases. What about the bad names? I'd say vast majority of retail sales are just that. How many will ever be used, vs just traded back and forth between investors in perpetuity. The pattern the OP was referring to (I think) is of why that is.

 

[Kyle Tully]

Who you are, high-profile sellers, have an extremely broad reach where they can cause excitement over a domain or trend they're vested into, in many ways that can give an edge on the DN's seed opportunity. It can be subtle or blatantly obvious. Perhaps the buyer forgot why they like the name, but there was a reason it's in their mind.

You're right more than likely buyers don't know who the seller is, my point is in my eyes it can certainly have a significant role even if it's for related domains that the seller doesn't even own. There is the trust factor. You mentioned brokers. An owner who is known and proven in consistent good names will likely be better weighed thus worked for. There is a community within every industry. Where do you see opportunity source from? So a good name sells itself. Maybe maybe not. We tend to know who the seller was in most cases. What about the bad names? I'd say vast majority of retail sales are just that. How many will ever be used, vs just traded back and forth between investors in perpetuity. The pattern the OP was referring to (I think) is of why that is.

Everything you mention is much more likely to "excite" other domain investors than have any impact whatsoever on an end user.

 

[HotKey]

Everything you mention is much more likely to "excite" other domain investors than have any impact whatsoever on an end user.

You might have your head in the sand.

 

[Adrigan]

Appears the whole domain business bases it in the owners name and not so much about domain value. Even if you have a good domain you wont sell it if you dont have a known name in the domain business. Any agree?

There is zero truth to your "feeling", which goes for all feelings.

Every domain name is unique and this doesn't happen with many other things in business (except monopolies but who don't need to sell or market themselves), so a domain name owned by an unknown 17yr old college student in a wooden shack in Peru has the exact same value and appeal to the same domain name being owned by someone famous in New York or Los Angeles. And as Kyle Tully said, a large percentage of domains have privacy setting for the whois info, so the owners are not publicly known.
Domain name ownership, like computing generally, is a great leveller.

I have no idea where you got your fantasy idea/feeling from, but however you have dreamed this fantasy up, it has no basis in reality, at all.

In addition, I suggest you spend time learning English properly, before you engage in some sort of investment in the English speaking world, as that has a far greater impact on how people perceive you than what domain names you have or are looking to register.

 

[Adrigan]

It's called Provenance

Yes but Provenance applies to objects where establishing its history is important from a legal and historic point of view and of course, it's value as a result. This is mainly for art objects, ancient artefacts and books, but also includes scientific artefacts such as dinosaur bones and fossils.
It doesn't apply to most homes, or any other everyday objects that are either very common or where origins are impossible to be known or don't need to be kniwn. It certainly doesn't apply to domain names.