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frank-germany

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this is from one of the formerly best parking company
( you know which )

this month is mai 28th 2018
all time is since 2012
( and this month is really good ! ;) )

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This is because these clicks are marked as invalid by parking filters OR even not recognized at all, that's why they are not shown in reports.

now when they are invalid
why do I have income?
 
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And if any concerns - ask PC/Bodis directly...
How their tracking works and how they generate their reports hourly...

I have no doubts that only revenue is imported from Google once per day.

sorry

I doubt they will tell me all their business secrets..
and I did so a while ago with PC

they told me to check and come back
they never came back
 
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now when they are invalid
why do I have income?

Frank, from what I understand Jurgen says is that revenue is being paid as a whole for the sum of the account's domains. It's the parking services that take that revenue and distribute it depending upon the behaviour of the domains in one's account.
...at least that's what I understand. @Jurgen Wolf Please correct me where I'm wrong.
 
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Frank, from what I understand Jurgen says is that revenue is being paid as a whole for the sum of the account's domains. It's the parking services that take that revenue and distribute it depending upon the behaviour of the domains in one's account.
...at least that's what I understand. @Jurgen Wolf Please correct me where I'm wrong.


that would be even worse
 
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Revenue column is imported per domain per day from Google (once per 24h).
Clicks and all other columns are completely generated by PC/Bodis tracking hourly.
How many times to repeat the same???
 
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Revenue column is imported per domain per day from Google (once per 24h).
Clicks and all other columns are completely generated by PC/Bodis tracking hourly.
How many times to repeat the same???


if thats the case
how can it be
you like it?
 
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Revenue column is imported per domain per day from Google (once per 24h).
Clicks and all other columns are completely generated by PC/Bodis tracking hourly.
How many times to repeat the same???

if thats the case
how can a tracking system be reliable
when it randomly not validates clicks as clicks?

...clicks that in the end are paid by google...
 
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if thats the case
how can it be
you like it?


how can a network internal tracking system
count views
but not clicks?

have you ever installed a tracking system?
I once had developed one.
 
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There are many various bots, proxies, VPNs and even clickers...
So invalid clicks are usually filtered... and not all clicks can be even recognized.

Please don't waste my time anymore.
 
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There are many various bots, proxies, VPNs and even clickers...
So invalid clicks are usually filtered... and not all clicks can be even recognized.

Please don't waste my time anymore.


it looks like you work for these guys
at least it looks like you like them

don't waste your time yourself
I 'm not responsible for your replies


I'm just asking valid questions
 
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I have no any relations to any parkings.
And I just a domainer with NORMAL IQ level.
 
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Yes, 0 clicks and revenue can and does happen.

So it is written.

Donny
 
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Thank you Donny


Obviously it happens

But
How comes?

If its a domain
With google active
And direct advertisers disabled??
 
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Most companies use the revenue from their upstream ad provider, but hits, searches, and clicks based on their own numbers. This is done for many reasons.

But based on how the hits, searches, and clicks are counted, especially clicks the number can be different.

Donny
 
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Most companies use the revenue from their upstream ad provider, but hits, searches, and clicks based on their own numbers. This is done for many reasons.

But based on how the hits, searches, and clicks are counted, especially clicks the number can be different.

Donny


thank you Donny.


still that doesn't feel well.

of course you use the actual income
which comes from the monetization party

here is what I understand:

for tracking
you use your inhouse system

vistors/views/clicks
are tracked inhouse

income value is supplied by 3rd party

now the issue is:
was the visitor a human or a robot?

views and clicks can be robotic
but I would think google knows best
which is what

so if google pays
I tent to think it wasn't a robotic click

your inhouse system thinks differently
so the clicks are not counted
but paid


did I get to correctly?
 
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Donny just repeated all I said a few days ago... )

May be the opposite scenario as well...
When clicks are counted (inhouse) but NOT paid by Google...
I see tens unpaid clicks weekly...
 
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Donny just repeated all I said a few days ago... )

May be the opposite scenario as well...
When clicks are counted (inhouse) but NOT paid by Google...
I see tens unpaid clicks weekly...


parking company are not really transparent to us domainers
we send them traffic
that's more or less or all we can do

I feel this is unsatisfying

at least I want to understand it as much as possible

I don't say they are doing so
but when I would own a parking network
I had a really hard time not to be tempted
to cut the income of my fellow domainers
in the unlikely scenario that I would need money

so whenever a situation occurs
that I feel is more or less not so much self explaining

I tend to think if they again need some extra money
to buy themself a new toothbrush or so

I would prefer to send all my parking traffic to a transparent network
even if the income would be lower

the parking companies deserve payment for their hard work
I just hard a hard time to understand what they are doing

template are the same for ages
incomes is low and lower
for me it doesn't look like work
what they are doing

"work" meaning they work to get the most out of the traffic to pay their customers:
the domainers

oops
no google is their customer

no wait
we are their customers
but they have to pay the customers
that tends to get confusing....
 
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They are absolutely transparent.
When you ask them directly - they always answer...
And such threads are not mandatory at all.
 
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They are absolutely transparent.
When you ask them directly - they always answer...
And such threads are not mandatory at all.


maybe in your country "transparent" means something different then to me
 
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Then don't park your domains if you don't like the parking companies...
Monetize via another methods...
The only one solution here.

And my country has no any relation to your own problems.
 
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Then don't park your domains if you don't like the parking companies...
Monetize via another methods...
The only one solution here.

And my country has no any relation to your own problems.


transparent to me means for example:

what percentage of income paid to them do they share to the domain owners
is it that percentage differently
when they are paid by google or by direct advertisers?
 
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This percentage at Bodis/PC should be 80-90%...
Significantly lower at Sedo, I guess - not even 50%.
 
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This percentage at Bodis/PC should be 80-90%...
Significantly lower at Sedo, I guess - not even 50%.


thanks for the information

as far as I know they are not allowed to publish that information
due to their contract with google

at least that's what one of the networks told me privately

but still its what I call "in-transparent"

you don't know it
it's not cristal clear
and most of all it's not guarantied

it's up to them to change it anytime
as that not part of the contract with their customers the domainers

so they can't be blamed
for paying lower

just 1 example
of in-transparency and why it's bad for domainers
 
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@ParkingCrew today I don't complain
but in order to make money online
it's always good to understand why stuff worked
so you can try to scale it

a domain with mainly german traffic
direct advertisers disabled

a misspelling actually

not banned by go gl


how do they get $4.55 USD
with no clicks?



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how do they manage to get those 0.04 and 0.03 cent clicks ??

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