Overture results question

[healymedia]

Hi,
If a name is available say XY.com (where X and Y are keywords), and the overture search results for the inverse, YX.com is very high, does that lend any value to XY.com, since theyre the same keywords just reversed? Or does the reverse order of the words take a huge hit out of the value?

I expect the high OVT score to be worth MUCH more than the inverse keyword name, but does the inverse still have some value for parking?

Sorry if that was confusing

Thanks
Ryan

 

[Varon]

It would not lend any value to the XY domain. But for example if we take the value of X as "loans" and the value of Y as "VA", where "VALoans.com" was the actual high OVT score keyword and you buy the inverse "loansVA.com", it still might hold some type-in value. At the same time if it were just letters instead of words, like in the case of XYZ.com ( high OVT) and you bought ZYX.com, it's value would definitely take a hit, unless ZYX too has a decent OVT score.

I would not trust the obsolete OVT results anymore for any keyword related domain purchase.

 

[healymedia]

The domain was bureaucredit.org. Creditbureau scores something like 35000

I figured the inverse wording would make it worth almost nothing, but I'll take a shot on it anyways and see how it goes.

I noticed you say that OVT is now obsolute. What kind of tool is good to use now for evaluating keyword popularity if not Overture?

 

[Varon]

Try wordtracker... if you don't have a subscription, here are the results :

For the exact word credit bureau (Data from US Market)

Keyword----------- Count------Predicted Type-ins in the next 24 hrs w/o ext
credit bureau-------- 332------------585
bureau credit---------11------------- 19
creditbureau---------- 3-------------- 5

0 results with tld extension .org for all 3 keywords.

 

[healymedia]

Great tool!!!

Thanks for the headsup

I'll check it out

 

[GILSAN]

Google's "KeywordToolExternal" is very popular and used by lots of peaple.

https://adwords.google.com/select/KeywordToolExternal

GIL

 

[healymedia]

I just tried the google one, and when I put in "bureau credit" it returns the words in that order as "average search voume" but does not list "credit bureau" in the list.

DOes this mean its treating bureau credit as = to credit bureau, and would that then not mean it is an inaccurate tool for determing the value of the keywords in any specific order?

 

[GILSAN]

I just tried the google one, and when I put in "bureau credit" it returns the words in that order as "average search voume" but does not list "credit bureau" in the list.

DOes this mean its treating bureau credit as = to credit bureau, and would that then not mean it is an inaccurate tool for determing the value of the keywords in any specific order?

Yes I noticed that as well. I did notice these 2:
"3 bureau credit report" and "Farm Bureau Credit Card"
Wordtracker is apparently the best tool around. Try the "FREE keyword suggestion tool" at http://freekeywords.wordtracker.com/

Varon has the paid version of Wordtracker if I'm not wrong.
I use both of these free tools at the moment, but hope to buy the Paid Wordtracker version sometime.

GIL

 

[enlytend]

I just tried the google one, and when I put in "bureau credit" it returns the words in that order as "average search voume" but does not list "credit bureau" in the list.

That's because by default its displaying results for a "broad match" on the phrase, which includes the words in any order plus other phrases which contain those words.

After the results load there's a drop-down on the right near the top of the results. Choose "phrase" or "exact" match to get better data on # searches for a particular word order. ("Phrase" is searches that include the exact term and possibly some other words before or after it, "exact" is searches for just those words in that order).