Nov. 2004 Icann Rules An Invitation To Domain Hijacking

[schepperer]

Domain Hijacking? It can happen to anybody.

This one mail I received today:

" A request has been received to transfer the domain tapert.com away from the Registrar OpenSRS.
This request was entered at 20-JAN-2005 16:58:01 by Moniker Online Services, Inc"

"If we do not hear from you by Tue Jan 25 16:58:01 2005, the transfer will proceed."

wow

I declined of course by clicking the correct choice.

If you dont check your email for about 5 days there is pretty good chance your domain name will be stolen.

My request to moniker support about who tried to hijack my domain, oh wonder was unanswered.

I would say about 35% of domains remain unlocked and are at risk to be stolen.

I dont know who makes decisions at ICANN, these guys must be outsourced from a how-works-a-hairdryer call center.

In November ICANN opened the gates for such kind of criminal acts and nobody prevented them from doing so.

 

[jberryhill]

And yes you MUST have a general rule to delete unsuccesful transfer jobs after a short period (1 month max.)

And this imaginary law makes it illegal at 1 month + 1 day, or does this imaginary law set a different limit? On what day does it become "illegal" according to this law?

Unlocking names at some registrars is difficult because some registrars do not follow the rules. If you are so incredibly happy with Registerfly, then go ahead and lock your names. You are intentionally attempting to confuse the fact that Moniker keeps trying transfers because it is extremely difficult to unlock names which are at non-compliant registrars.

Now, duh, if you think about that for a minute, you don't have to lock your names which are at registrars that refuse to unlock names.

Owners of active domains have same rights that their domains cant be transferred away without an ACTIVE ACK.

I believe we have made our opinions of reality clear, and that any interested readers can go read the ICANN policy.

 

[Dave_Z]

Why I should lock my domains at a "variety of registrars" if it takes " several months" to get them unlocked again?

Then may I suggest using a single registrar that lets you unlock your domain
in real time? I don't really know about Moniker's, but I think it is, though only
Monte or any of Moniker's users can say.

Also, despite unlocking it at the registrar, it takes time until it reflects it's no
longer locked at the registry level.

active domains are at risk to be stolen or accidently taken away through registrars like monikers.

Remember, the gaining registrar must secure authorization first. The
request to transfer won't go thru unless that first part is hurdled successfully.

And if the domain's unlocked at its current registrar, then the likelihood of it
being stolen or accidentally taken away becomes strong.

Just remember those two vital details and your domain/s will be fine.

BTW, tapert is still active. How come it's not locked yet?

35% of all domain names are unlocked

Where'd you get that figure?

Everybody has right to ignore his emails without running at risk his domain name gets stolen.

True. But it's also everyone's right to keep abreast of developments going on.
It's called "progress", however beautiful or ugly it may be in the eye of the
beholder.

If its paid for a period long enough its also ok the registrant is offline for a year without the need of having bad dreams about possible domain hijacking.

Unfortunately this is the reality each and every domain name must be aware
of. No one has to like it, but everyone should know anyway.

A bit off-topic, but the tsunami that occured months back is a reality no one
wanted, either. Every hurricane, earthquake, genocide etc. is a reality no one
wants, but we should still be aware of them and be prepared, if possible.

Boy scouts' motto, schepperer: always be prepared.

You ignore your emails? Its ok you have the right to do as long domain is paid and contact data are up to date.

You don't even know half of it. Tell that to those who have their domains
registered thru a hosting provider or a webmaster and they register it under
their own names instead of their respective clients.

Owners of active domains have same rights that their domains cant be transferred away without an ACTIVE ACK.

Now this part is best placed at ICANN's transfer policy feedback site:
http://icann.org/announcements/announcement-12jan05.htm. Have a go!

 

[mole]

Unlocking names can be very tricky on certain account control panels that work funny. Best way is to contact support and ask them to do it for you.

I agree that the new ICANN policy is a bit of good, and bad, depending on which registrar you are talking about.

I've learnt to treat domain transfers as a game of successfully getting that Princess out of the House Of Hades. Keeps me amused and lowers my blood pressure.

 

[Dave_Z]

I've learnt to treat domain transfers as a game of successfully getting that Princess out of the House Of Hades. Keeps me amused and lowers my blood pressure.

If your Princess is named Eurydice, make sure not to look back at her when
you're almost out. :D

 

[mcahn]

Mario,

Registerfly is not even an ICANN Accredited Registrar so they may not be following ICANN policy anyway.

BTW, your domain is STILL NOT LOCKED!

Lock your domain to protect it or move it here to Moniker.com and we will do it for you!

Domain Name: TAPERT.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://domainhelp.tucows.com
Name Server: NS1.MYDOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS2.MYDOMAIN.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 19-nov-2004
Creation Date: 19-nov-2004
Expiration Date: 19-nov-2005

 

[jberryhill]

Lock your domain to protect it or move it here to Moniker.com and we will do it for you!

Naw... I'll move it to Moniker "for" him.

(Just kidding, Schep... put the knife down)

 

[schepperer]

registerfly dont initiate transfer aways without ACK so they do well being out of the ICANNOT gang and stay on the we-dont-hijack and dont transfer-typo-errors-domains side. Thats the side I prefer. Im pretty sure I wont sell tapert.com and also in unlocked mode it will be save at registerfly then. Thats the deciding difference to moniker.

Monte:

I missed your statement to your 6months-to-unlimited transfer queue handling and that a domain stays in queue until customer tells you to delete.

Do you leave it like it is or what are you going to change?

We await your post.

 

[jberryhill]

Keep asking for six months.

 

[mcahn]

we typically do not leave domains in the transfer out system like we did this domain...but that does not matter. The customer is in charge of cancelling that transfer and this customer rarely submits a domain that does not come over. The reason is that our transfer in system (unlike any I have seen) actually calls for the domain every day until cancelled. So, if you win a domain from pool or snap, you can call for your domain to transfer on the first day you catch it. On the 61st day, the domains usually come over automatically. That is what our customers love about leaving in the system. Generally, they eventually come over.

In this case, their former registrar allowed the domain to expire then delete even thought it was being called for every day. You only have this domain because of a mistake/error by the former owner's registrar - isn't that Ironic to you??

But John is right....keep asking...

 

[AdoptableDomains]

registerfly dont initiate transfer aways without ACK so they do well being out of the ICANNOT gang and stay on the we-dont-hijack and dont transfer-typo-errors-domains side. Thats the side I prefer. Im pretty sure I wont sell tapert.com and also in unlocked mode it will be save at registerfly then. Thats the deciding difference to moniker.

That may be what the email said, but I wouldn't bet on it. Registerfly's back end is just Enom. I have nothing against RF, I have about 800 domains there. Even though they have one of the best management interfaces in the industry, don't believe everything you read or see, as they do have their share of problems just like most other registrars, and more often large resellers accesssing the registrar via API's.

Locking your domains IS good advice.

 

[schepperer]

monte:

your customer for tapert.com was from china?

 

[jopros]

Very interesting. Thank you.