Notice that big centralnic banner at AFTERNIC

[quality]

Yep subdomain investors are gonna get even more publicity for their generic name names......there is a lot more news on the way.........more and more are
going to be learning about .us.com .web.com .eu.com .uk.com and the sceptics that lacked the vision can whistle in the wind...... enom.com dotster.com registerfly.com....the network is expanding all the time......

 

[fonzie_007]

I highly doubt that .us.com domains will ever take off. This is not saying there will not be a land rush for those domains; however, if I was a business, I would be very skeptical of relying solely on a .us.com domain. There would be a large amount of ambiguity between .com's, .us's, and .us.com's. Same thing for the .eu.com's.

This seems like just another way for registrars and the folks at ICANN to make some more money.

 

[-db-]

Quality,

I'm sure you realize that I'm one of the few people that has given you the benefit of the doubt regarding your previous claims, despite having no verification of your sale(s) or traffic. I'm not against you, and I've never flamed or insulted you.

...and the sceptics that lacked the vision can whistle in the wind......

However, I'm sure you also realize that posting another thread on the subject, and making such a comment as the one above... is only going to fuel the fire you started previously. Could my friends & associates be correct about you enjoying controversy and stirring up the crowd?

Here's an idea. When you have some verifiable proof of your big sub-domain sale(s) or traffic, post it so everyone can see. Then maybe a normal discussion on the topic can begin.

C'mon man. Either poop, or get off the throne.

 

[quality]

Ok db I will take you up on the offer.... since you are a forum leader I will
happily fax you a signed contract for a subdomain sale on the condition
that you merely confirm that you have seen the contract and the relevant
details and you promise not to hassle the current owner and also not reveal the precise details of the domain other than to confirm you have seen the contract
and a relevant $xx,xxx equivalent price.

Up to you but I feel I have to protect the registrant to some degree and I trust you as a forum leader as I assume so does the rest when you acknowledge that
you have seen the contract....it is not for poker.web.com as that is protected by a non disclosure agreement. This other sale is not but I do feel the registrant
should not be made to feel I have exposed a legitimate business transaction to a wide audience.

 

[timmaay]

i never heard about web.com / us.com etc until i started following this domain business back in October and I was supposed to be more "in the know" since I have worked as a web developer since 2000 and started my first site in 2001.

My friends / family / acquantances know of 3 things:

.com means your on the internet
google
ebay

to think web.com is going to be anything within the next 2-3 years is delusional

 

[quality]

Well Timmaay thanks for your contribution but obviously you are unaware of the recent £15,000 sale of poker.web.com you are obviously not so well infomed as
you like to think........

Try a search of site:.us.com might help you to learn a bit about whats been going on.....

 

[IAmAllanShore]

quality,
I'll do you one better. Send me the NDA that allowed you to release the sale, the date, and the domain (But just not the buyer...) and I'll eat all (most of) my words.
Chances are either 1) There is no such NDA (If it was, it would be one of the most unique documents I've seen in domains in quite some time) or 2) you're already in violation of most of its terms.
Good times.
-Allan

 

[timmaay]

quality is your real name Don King?

 

[Smith]

In all honesty , one 15k sale means nothing. especially if you were the poor guy that bought it.

These names are a complete waste of money and potentially dangerous in my opinion. You are buying names from a company that can close it's doors whenever it goes bust or changes business strategies.

Your time and money might be better off spent on some cctlds names or other tlds.

Investment wise, you're defiantly better off investing in something else.

Just my 2 cents

 

[quality]

Thanks Smith yes I am sure centralnic is just gonna close its door on all those businesss and throw away all the revenue get sued by tons of companies including all its registrars domain holders etc for want of failing to operate the subdomains....great business strategy....

Risk is inherent in business and your suggestion is absurd............

 

[IAmAllanShore]

Missed my offer, quality?
-Allan :gl:

 

[America First]

quality,
I'll do you one better. Send me the NDA that allowed you to release the sale, the date, and the domain (But just not the buyer...) and I'll eat all (most of) my words.
Chances are either 1) There is no such NDA (If it was, it would be one of the most unique documents I've seen in domains in quite some time) or 2) you're already in violation of most of its terms.
Good times.
-Allan

Quality,
I will join the dinner party that Allen will be throwing and eat ALL OF MY WORDS, if you can do that little favor he asked of you. :tu:
Untill then I stand TALL in my thoughts, and opinion.
Your just another "Brick in the Wall"

Quality,
Here's an idea. When you have some verifiable proof of your big sub-domain sale(s) or traffic, post it so everyone can see. Then maybe a normal discussion on the topic can begin.

We only can wish...

 

[quality]

No I do not want to take you up the nda is part of the terms of the contract and I am not revealing any part of that contract as by definition that is what is demanded of me in the contract. I have to respect the privacy demanded by the new holder when the new owner has a website up and running...presumably that is why they bought the domain then you will be able to judge for yourself...

I have offered to show a relevant contract to db on the terms I have outlined
it is up to him if he accepts those terms which I think are more than reasonable
to protect the new registrant and the nature of that particular business transaction.

 

[IAmAllanShore]

quality,
Last chance (from me) to make some sense.
You can redact ALL mentions of the buyer from the NDA (Not rocket science here...), so it would no more be violating any supposed NDA than your mentioning the NDA already has.
-Allan

 

[Smith]

"Quality", you should take a quick look at CentralNic T&C

http://www.centralnic.com/terms

In particular

#16 (e)

&

#17

 

[quality]

If I am not allowed to reveal the clauses cantained in the contract how can I fulfil the condition by revealing the clauses? By definition I would be in violation of the clauses.........I have signed the document to that effect NOT YOU and therefore do not want to expose myself to the legal risk of being in violation of the contract.

Simple really

 

[Smith]

Also, let me add something.

Business is business, if they can't sell enough of these names they cut their losses and sell their domain names.

They are not regulated like tlds are and make their liabilities pretty obvious in their terms and conditions. Also I didn't happen to see anything in there about keeping the names alive for any guaranteed period of time.

Of course there is rick to all businesses, but there is a difference between calculated risk and uneducated risk.

 

[quality]

Thank you Smith i am glad you are learning fast that is why if you
look us.com is held by a third party in Escrow precisely for that reason
to protect all parties.....

Registrant:
DSI Technology Escrow Services, Inc
9265 Sky Park Court, Suite 202
San Diego, CA 92123
US

check whois.sc for us.com

 

[IAmAllanShore]

If I am not allowed to reveal the clauses cantained in the contract how can I fulfil the condition by revealing the clauses? By definition I would be in violation of the clauses.........I have signed the document to that effect NOT YOU and therefore do not want to expose myself to the legal risk of being in violation of the contract.

Simple really

:lol:

I give up, and am changing my position (officially) from being cautiously cynical, to an outright disbeliever.

If I'm wrong, it won't be the first time. And if nothing else, our man -db- is still polite

-Allan :gl:

 

[Badger]

quality is your real name Don King?

No Timmay his name is Keith and theres something really weird going on here.....

http://forum.icann.org/tldreport/3A0F46DB00000241.html

TIMES UP QUALITY...........

Are you going to tell everyone who you are or shall I.........?

** now that put the cat amongst the pigeons didnt it....? best whodunit ive solved to date, thanks Keith.... Knew your name rung a bell from those old ICANN forum days.... **