advice MassShootings.org Development Advice

[TCK]

So here I am lying in my bed and responding on my iPhone to some posts when the hot topic of mass shootings comes up with very polarizing views.

I responded to one poster that I own massshootings.org and should develop it so that I don’t have to answer certain questions.

Someone else suggested that such a domain developed might save lives.

I tend to agree. Even if it is one life, it would be incredible.

Here I am reaching out to you and the NamePros community. Please help me develop MassShootings.org so it can be a truly helpful resource.

What should the site include?

 

[Internet.Domains]

So here I am lying in my bed and responding on my iPhone to some posts when the hot topic of mass shootings comes up with very polarizing views.

I responded to one poster that I own massshootings.org and should develop it so that I don’t have to answer certain questions.

Someone else suggested that such a domain developed might save lives.

I tend to agree. Even if it is one life, it would be incredible.

Here I am reaching out to you and the NamePros community. Please help me develop MassShootings.org so it can be a truly helpful resource.

What should the site include?

I believe you have good intentions to save lives, that is a good thing. I find that a great motivating factor and hope you succeed at saving lives.

However, based on our prior discussions I believe you intend to develop the site anti-gun, anti 2nd amendment. This divides your base as the pro-gun and anti-gun groups are both passionate and compromise on guns are probably not in the near future.

Instead, I suggest focusing on the mental health epidemic. The mental health issue has agreement from both sides of the gun debate. There are so many factors under our mental health epidemic that the content could be very large.

All sides of the gun debate wish to see less violence, let's build on our agreements and not fight about our disagreements.

Sending peace, love and hope to all!

 

[TCK]

I am thinking more of a fact-based resource. I don't want it to be political. All voices should be represented as long as their driver is finding a solution. Mental health and emotional health are certainly factors. But we need to be careful not to demonize people with mental and/or emotional issues. They are more likely to hurt themselves than others. I believe that to a certain extent the vast majority of people on earth have such issues, childhood or adulthood traumas. Things they may never be aware of that affect them today mentally and emotionally.

I believe it is as important to get mental and emotional checkups as it is physical checkups. On a regular basis.

 

[UmerK]

First thing that hit my mind was a checkout list of some sort to keep your self safe if God forbid you run into such a situation - this could include avoiding going to places with a lot of people unless necessary, keeping in touch with others and being mentally prepared to do whatever it takes to be safe in such a situation among other things.

I do agree that it should not turn towards politics or gun debate BUT stating out mental health issues as singled out reason for such shootings is not correct as guns specially ARs do provide means to carry out such an act.

All in all, thoughts and prayers for you guys all the way from the east, stay safe!

 

[Internet.Domains]

I don't want it to be political.

Stay away from the gun debate in that case.

But we need to be careful not to demonize people with mental and/or emotional issues.

Agreed. We have to always have compassion. In fact, it is lack of compassion that all of the perpetrators have.

On subject, today there was a school attacked with 8 young lives lost by a knife attacker. One of the reports mentioned "bullying" leads to these incidents in countries with strict gun laws. We have come a long way with "bullying" awareness, but there is still much work to be done. I know from the mass shooting in my town that the perpetrator had been bullied previously.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...entary-school-children-dead-today-2019-09-03/

 

[JB Lions]

I believe you have good intentions to save lives, that is a good thing. I find that a great motivating factor and hope you succeed at saving lives.

However, based on our prior discussions I believe you intend to develop the site anti-gun, anti 2nd amendment. This divides your base as the pro-gun and anti-gun groups are both passionate and compromise on guns are probably not in the near future.

Instead, I suggest focusing on the mental health epidemic. The mental health issue has agreement from both sides of the gun debate. There are so many factors under our mental health epidemic that the content could be very large.

All sides of the gun debate wish to see less violence, let's build on our agreements and not fight about our disagreements.

Sending peace, love and hope to all!

I don't think he wants to make some NRA talking point site. You completely dodged my post in the other thread, reposted below.

You very well know stuff like violent video games, lyrics, mental health problems is worldwide. The only difference in America is we have a boatload of guns, more guns than people and easy access to them. You don't want to really deal with the issue if you just want to pass it off on mental health and be on your way. That is basically the NRA talking. It's 2019, people have caught on to that, you see that in the younger generation already. I think they're really tired of the bs.

Do you believe in DUI checkpoints? It catches some drunks, people who shouldn't be driving. Does it eliminate drunk driving? No. Should be stop it because of that? Or course not.

And the stuff from who you guys want to call the left, is basic, common sense stuff the majority of Americans agree with, even Republicans.

Maybe raising the age to get a gun. In Florida before that school shooting, you had to be 21 to get a handgun, 18 to get an AR-15, does that make sense? No, it didn't.

Universal background checks. The majority of Americans, Republicans as well support that.

How about the Federal Assault Weapons ban that expired in 2004, start that up again. Most people support that. It was in effect from 1994-2004. People could still buy guns for protection, sport, hunt etc during that time.

That one killer mentioned in the article had a 100 round drum. Do you really need that?

The things being suggested, are supported by most people.

And this nonsense with video games and mental health. This nonsense has been gone over to death. Other countries have violent video games, some even more violent. Mental health issues, anybody can have those.

We're the country that has these mass shootings. We have more guns than people, easy access.

I watched this show about an American living in Japan, they have to go thru a lot to be able to own a gun. He went thru it, got the gun. They don't have these issues.

I'm curious which ones of the common sense measures mentioned above, would affect anybody here? Probably none.

 

[TCK]

Stay away from the gun debate in that case.

Although I will do my best to keep neutral, if we are going to talk about mental health then guns have to have equal mention. Simply by the fact that they are in the picture. Personally, I'm not anti gun or anything, but I am anti death, anti murder.

On subject, today there was a school attacked with 8 young lives lost by a knife attacker. One of the reports mentioned "bullying" leads to these incidents in countries with strict gun laws. We have come a long way with "bullying" awareness, but there is still much work to be done. I know from the mass shooting in my town that the perpetrator had been bullied previously.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...entary-school-children-dead-today-2019-09-03/

Thanks for that info. Yes, people get killed by knives, cars, rocks, falls, even fists. Twisted minded individuals intent on killing will always look for the next best available weapon that will most efficiently kill the most people possible. Bullying is a bigger problem than we realize. I remember one kid in my high school that was insanely bullied. He wrote a tirade filled with expletives in the grad yearbook. That was a couple of decades ago. But it stands out for me even when I did not bully him.

I also believe that there is a demonic element. In the Bible, demons have a rapacious fetish for self-mutilation and death. Since they cannot die, they would often influence people and animals that would then inflict harm to or kill themselves and/or others. Not saying that mass murderers are actually possessed but they can be encouraged to commit the most horrific act they possibly can by either inviting a demon into their life or believing demon-fueled propaganda. Whether that's the case or not, the killer is acting on demonic-like thinking.

 

[Internet.Domains]

You don't want to really deal with the issue if you just want to pass it off on mental health and be on your way.

I didn't answer you in the other thread for the reason you seem to attack my position as, "you don't want to really deal with the issue."

It is hard, if not impossible, to debate when that attitude towards an opponent is as such. For reason mentioned, I choose not to engage in debate with that type of rhetoric.

Peace!

 

[JB Lions]

I didn't answer you in the other thread for the reason you seem to attack my position as, "you don't want to really deal with the issue."

It is hard, if not impossible, to debate when that attitude towards an opponent is as such. For reason mentioned, I choose not to engage in debate with that type of rhetoric.

Peace!

No, just be honest about it. Take each point I made, discuss it, tell me your views on it. I think you either agree with me, or can't really debate on it. Those are really the only 2 options I see.

Just take each point I made, and give a rebuttal. To this point, you're just obviously dodging.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Bullying is a bigger problem than we realize

We are finding some common ground.

 

[TCK]

We are finding some common ground.

There is a lot of ground to cover. So we are bound to end up on some common ground, my friend.

 

[Internet.Domains]

No, just be honest about it.

I am honest about it. I understand your passionate with your views, theres nothing wrong with that, but you have a habit of attacking and disparaging those with opposite views. In fact, you have already done it to others recently.

I would rather discuss sports with you. Go Dodgers! Rams!....and Lakers!

 

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[JB Lions]

I am honest about it. I understand your passionate with your views, theres nothing wrong with that, but you have a habit of attacking and disparaging those with opposite views. In fact, you have already done it to others recently.

I would rather discuss sports with you. Go Dodgers! Rams!....and Lakers!

This is again false. I literally asked you for your opinions multiple times now. Are you saying wanting to hear somebody's opinion is attacking? That makes no sense. It's called discussion.

Internet.Domains what is your opinion on ________________?

Is not an attack, it's an invitation to discuss.

 

[JB Lions]

I am honest about it. I understand your passionate with your views, theres nothing wrong with that, but you have a habit of attacking and disparaging those with opposite views. In fact, you have already done it to others recently.

I would rather discuss sports with you. Go Dodgers! Rams!....and Lakers!

Let's just try 1, and get very specific. What do you feel about Universal Background Checks?

I'll give you some info on how Americans feel about it:

"88% of registered voters supported universal background checks, according to a Politico/Morning Consult poll with a margin of error +/- 2%. 97% of American voters supported universal background checks, according to a Quinnipiac University Polling Institute poll with a margin of error of +/- 3.4%."

What are your thoughts on it? I can tell you the NRA is against it. I see a range of 88% - 97% supporting it.

 

[Internet.Domains]

This is again false. I literally asked you for your opinions multiple times now. Are you saying wanting to hear somebody's opinion is attacking? That makes no sense. It's called discussion.

Internet.Domains what is your opinion on ________________?

Is not an attack, it's an invitation to discuss.

I have no interest to get into a gun debate. Don't take it personal, please.

 

[JB Lions]

I have no interest to get into a gun debate. Don't take it personal, please.

Except you did, read your posts above. You were literally the first one to reply talking about it's a mental health issue. You just don't want to deal with the stuff I posted. And that's fine. My last post shows just how far out the NRA has become, since they literally go against the majority of Americans. It's just a marketing arm of gun manufacturers. There are other gun groups out there, that have a more common sense approach to things. And one time the NRA was actually ok with it.

I would rather discuss sports with you. Go Dodgers! Rams!....and Lakers!

Start a sports thread, football season is here. Maybe somebody can start a football pool or something.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Except you did, read your posts above. You just don't want to deal with the stuff I posted. And that's fine. My last post shows just how far out the NRA has become, since they literally go against the majority of Americans. It's just a marketing arm of gun manufacturers. There are other gun groups out there, that have a more common sense approach to things. And one time the NRA was actually ok with it.

If you want to debate guns, here is a more on topic thread:
https://www.namepros.com/threads/gun-laws.1136656/

I came here to suggest that the domain mentioned could benefit from content that contains more agreement than the gun debate. Purposely, I suggested society could benefit by building on common ground versus being split by the gun debate.

I will emphasize my point, one more time. If we are going to find a solution, we all need to build on common ground.

On that, I choose to discuss the common ground so that we can work on solutions that will make a change for the better.

Peace!

 

[JB Lions]

I will emphasize my point, one more time. If we are going to find a solution, we all need to build on common ground!

I agree with that. It's why I made the post above. You're really not going to get much more common ground than - 88% - 97%

That's overwhelming common ground.

 

[TCK]

MassShootings.org is officially off the market.

The domain received an offer before. I think it was after the Parkland mass shooting. The offer was $100 and I would have sold it if the buyer could convince me that he would create a resource that would be of real service. This domain was never meant to be a business investment, unlike MassShootings.com is for HugeDomains. It makes me cringe when people use human suffering to make profit.

If you think that it is a worthwhile endeavor to create a resource at MassShootings.org to inform, help victims and hopefully prevent a future mass shooting, then please like this thread. Like here at this post or the opening post. Even if you don't have anything you want to say right in this moment, please send a like to let us know you believe in this effort.

 

[Internet.Domains]

Start a sports thread, football season is here.

Done! Thanks!

https://www.namepros.com/threads/the-official-sports-thread.1152489/#post-7380500

 

[TCK]

Hey,

@Internet.Domains and @JB Lions

If you are going to talk NHL, which preseason starts this month, I hope you will post here:

https://www.namepros.com/threads/nhl-national-hockey-league-discussion.1135403/

 

[TCK]

Friends,

Due to certain people complaining about this thread (and it is mind-boggling why) this thread has been moved by moderators to the adult section. Basically in a cesspool of porn-related posts. We are in contact with management and will update you on the final decision.

 

[frank-germany]

CNN today

"Walmart announces it will stop selling handgun ammunition and ammunition for short-barrel rifles, and will stop selling handguns in Alaska, the only state where it still sells handguns."

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1168934224461737987?s=20


really buying guns at Walmart?

that is crazy

 

[TCK]

I am so happy to say that the decision is to put the thread in its rightful place. I want to thank @Eric Lyon and the @NamePros management for making a just decision.

I hope this thread will join us together even if we have differing views. Also, please send any ideas you might have to make MassShootings.org a truly beneficial resource.