Macau Casino Auction List Posted

[npcomplete]

Hey folks, the Master Auction List for the Macau China Casino auction has been posted:

http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html

I am a bit surprised that the list was posted this early! The last TRAFFIC list was posted about two weeks before auction. The Macau auction list has more than 3 weeks before the actual auction... almost enough to do real marketing!

Marc

 

[npcomplete]

CAC or Geo ?

CAC list posted but no auth until next week.

arrgghhhh..... maybe I need a nap.

You are right wot, it is the geo auction notices that are shipping. Wrong thread. In any case, the Geo auction notices are shipping, and missing some of the names on the list.

Thanks for the correction. Now I will go take a nap.

Marc

 

[wot]

Almost nobody is making that assumption. OTOH, the person asking the question about cotaicasinos.com was asking a question about a very high quality gambling domain. My *guess* was that it was rejected based on reserves, given the quality of the domain.

I have 2 names in live auction, 6 in silent. Only two of my domains were Macau related, the others were general gambling.

Marc

Good luck to all.

 

[goodkarmaco]

Nice little view of cotai strip, $$domainer.

Big investments made in Macau.

 

[ssamriga]

so for casino auction it is still ok for not to have gotten any authorisation emails?

 

[slugraduate]

I submitted macaucasinos.co.uk, but I dont see it on the list??? MacauCasinos.de made it. (I don't own that one.)

 

[npcomplete]

so for casino auction it is still ok for not to have gotten any authorisation emails?

Yes, the auction authorization has not yet been mailed. I really apologize for the confusion. The notice above was for Geo. As wot mentioned above, we should be seeing the Macau auction notice next week. The reasoning is the same however, so make sure that you receive the auction authorization if your name is on the Macau auction list.

Marc

 

[slugraduate]

Ok, now I am a bit irritated about this macaucasinos.co.uk issue. The response I received from Moniker really doesn't make sense. They state that:

"There are a number of reasons for why your name may not have made the cut.

....A catchy domain name with Traffic and Revenue Stats is a lot more valuable then a catchy domain name.

Second, is pricing. You should get an appraisal done on the domain so we can get an accurate look at its value. Pricing is key in these auctions.....

Third, and most important, this is a highly competitive market. We get between 80,000 and 100,000 submission to each and every auction. Just getting into a Moniker Auction is difficult to say the least. We look for the best names listed at the best price. We don’t look for the most expensive names or the flashiest, but the names we think will SELL. If you follow my advice, gather some Traffic stats and get an appraisal done you will greatly INCREASE your chances of being selected for auction."
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As I replied, This is an auction for casino names occurring in Macau. I in no way wish to knock or discredit anyones names that were accepted. If I offend anyone, I truly am sorry.

I may not be an expert, but it seems to me that MacauCasinos.co.uk is more relevant to the venue and target audience than most if not all of the accepted co.uk names. All those names are parked, (as is mine) thus I find it hard to believe they receive traffic significant enough to make them more valuable. (Save one) Another, which is parked at sedo has one visitor in the last 30 days. (Same as mine, yet it was selected.)

Pricing, well, no argument there.

Finally, with regard to the highly competitive market. I agree that a lot of names are submitted, yet only a fraction can be sent to auction. Again, I don't see how the above mentioned names (save one) are more competitive than macaucasinos.co.uk. While I respect Monikers rights to select the names they feel will sell, I just don't agree with the opinion, as I feel the logic for not selecting macaucasinos.co.uk makes no sense.

I don't intend to step on toes here. I just want to vent a bit and gain perspective from the membership.

 

[ssamriga]

Ok, now I am a bit irritated about this macaucasinos.co.uk issue.

It really is a great name, maybe some newbie guy was making decision about this one?
If they get 80k submissions, they surely have several people checking them...

Or is it all automated? Though I doubt that...

 

[npcomplete]

As mentioned in earlier posts, this is NOT an auction "about Macau", but an auction held IN Macau, even though it is a silent auction. The theme for the auction is gambling. Perhaps the auction committee wanted a general mix of gambling domains. The one thing we know for certain is that the committee wants things to sell. Pretty names that do not sell will not feed the bulldog, and Moniker is a business.

Your .co.uk domain is excellent, so I would guess that it was a problem with the reserves... just a guess though...

Marc

 

[kellyandbryan]

It is a good name, but this just proves what i said earlier... just because the name has "macau" in it, doesn't mean anything. The auction was not for "macau" names, it was for "gambling" names.

 

[Charley]

I submitted macaucasinos.co.uk, but I dont see it on the list???

Many premium names weren't included and low quality names were. I don't understand the reasoning with it.

 

[jeffoverman]

Wow. A lot to read in the next few minutes

Thanks in youtube link. Will watch it when I am around a laptop

2 of my names got submitted.

I held out on a few names and a lot of gems I own

I own macao names for the record but people macau is king. Macao is like .net here or .org.

I admit, we are selling early. I need to free up some cash so I hope I can sell these 2 names

I own macaucasino.tv and a few other gems that I won't sale. Macau is only getting started.

Back to macao factor, las Vegas sands uses that. Then they trying trade mark a common term. I just don't see how they will trademark a description. Will be very shocked if it gets approved.

Good luck everyone!

I thought Coati strip is pending trade mark by las Vegas sands.

Did it get passed.

I find it very hard to belief this will fly and trademark

Coati strip both next to each other I would worry but coati macau strip I wouldn't worry as much.

 

[wot]

Wow. A lot to read in the next few minutes

Thanks in youtube link. Will watch it when I am around a laptop

2 of my names got submitted.

I held out on a few names and a lot of gems I own

I own macao names for the record but people macau is king. Macao is like .net here or .org.

I admit, we are selling early. I need to free up some cash so I hope I can sell these 2 names

I own macaucasino.tv and a few other gems that I won't sale. Macau is only getting started.

Back to macao factor, las Vegas sands uses that. Then they trying trade mark a common term. I just don't see how they will trademark a description. Will be very shocked if it gets approved.

Good luck everyone!

I thought Coati strip is pending trade mark by las Vegas sands.

Did it get passed.

I find it very hard to belief this will fly and trademark

Coati strip both next to each other I would worry but coati macau strip I wouldn't worry as much.

Better tell the government about the usage of Macao/Macau - they use Mo -guess what that stands for.

Anyway its 澳门

 

[NJNATIVE]

Macau CAC

Fellow Domainers:

If you go to CAC2007 it explains that the FOCUS of this convention is developing the Asian market, even though the worldwide market will also be discussed. Some of Asia is unique. 888 to the Asian community represents good fortune, which is why it plays so well as part of a domain.

The Macau government publishes the approved games in Macau, you will see names like Cussec on the official list.
Dai Siu is the term for Sic Bo used widely in Macau, and asian gamers make up the majority of players that CAC2007 is looking for.
Da Lao Er is the game "Big 2". Do a Google search of Big 2 (two words) you will see 100,000,000 identities. The First is the Game Big 2, and Da Lao Er is defined as the Asian term for this game.
Korinto Gemu is the original Japanese name for Pachinko. Pachinko is bigger than the auto industry in Japan in terms of total revenue, and Korinto Gemu then makes sense as a great Domain for the Asian customers. "gemu" is the Japanese term for "game".

So maybe the decision is weight heavy for Asian related games and names since there will be an audience in Macau; interested in the Far East.

Good Domaining

 

[namegame]

I find it interesting to see the significant number of .cn names in the auction. Although gambling isn't allowed in mainland China, just like communism morphing there into a business-oriented powerhouse it could be just a matter of time until internet access to gambling becomes reality. With the Chinese desire for gambling combined with the huge population base, .cn gambling names could become quite valuable as time goes on. It's nice to see that Moniker has the foresight to include them.

 

[domainerph]

Thanks in youtube link. Will watch it when I am around a laptop

Can I get the link too.. Thanks..

 

[wot]

Fellow Domainers:

If you go to CAC2007 it explains that the FOCUS of this convention is developing the Asian market, even though the worldwide market will also be discussed. Some of Asia is unique. 888 to the Asian community represents good fortune, which is why it plays so well as part of a domain.

The Macau government publishes the approved games in Macau, you will see names like Cussec on the official list.
Dai Siu is the term for Sic Bo used widely in Macau, and asian gamers make up the majority of players that CAC2007 is looking for.
Da Lao Er is the game "Big 2". Do a Google search of Big 2 (two words) you will see 100,000,000 identities. The First is the Game Big 2, and Da Lao Er is defined as the Asian term for this game.
Korinto Gemu is the original Japanese name for Pachinko. Pachinko is bigger than the auto industry in Japan in terms of total revenue, and Korinto Gemu then makes sense as a great Domain for the Asian customers. "gemu" is the Japanese term for "game".

So maybe the decision is weight heavy for Asian related games and names since there will be an audience in Macau; interested in the Far East.

Good Domaining

I think you will fined that 99% of the asians in Macau/Macao will have zero idea what these names mean - they are in the wrong characters

Korinto Gemu is garbage - Pachinko -yes - パチンコ big yes

Dai Siu is only the way big and small sounds when spoken 大小

And Sicbo is OK but should be 骰寶

Idns are where you should be for asia in particular. JMO

888 is also OK but not for the crap they have on offer. :imho:

 

[kellyandbryan]

Did anyone ever get authorizations from moniker for this auction starting TODAY?

I can't seem to get an answer from anyone

 

[namegame]

Not me, and I have quite a few names in the auction.

 

[wot]

Nope. But now extended to 6th December - hmmm!