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Hey folks, the Master Auction List for the Macau China Casino auction has been posted:

http://marketplacepro.moniker.com/auction/index.html

I am a bit surprised that the list was posted this early! The last TRAFFIC list was posted about two weeks before auction. The Macau auction list has more than 3 weeks before the actual auction... almost enough to do real marketing!

Marc
 
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$$Domainer said:
This domain could run into TM problems. Cotai Strip is a TM of Las Vegas Sands. Even with the "macau" in the center they could still run into TM trouble. And the price on the domain is completely insane. NOBODY ever calls it the Cotai Macau Strip. It is always referred to as the Cotai Strip.

thats right definate TM issues :imho:
 
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I am not a lawyer so I can't make a good judgment. From USPTO on Sands application to trademark COTAI STRIP . FYI

OFFICE ACTION

TO AVOID ABANDONMENT, THE OFFICE MUST RECEIVE A PROPER RESPONSE TO THIS OFFICE ACTION WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF THE ISSUE/MAILING DATE.

ISSUE/MAILING DATE: 9/26/2007

The Office has reassigned this application to the undersigned trademark examining attorney.

This is in response to applicantโ€™s correspondence of February 21, 2007 regarding the trademark application identified above. In office action number 2, the examining attorney:

(1) Required applicant to disclaim the word STRIP, and

(2) Required applicant to pay additional fees to account for unpaid classes of goods or services.

In its response

(1) Applicant provided arguments and evidence against the disclaimer requirement. The examining attorney has considered this issue and is hereby withdrawing this requirement.

(2) Applicant paid the necessary fees for all remaining classes of goods and services. Accordingly, this requirement is no longer outstanding.

However on reconsideration of the issues, the examining attorney has determined that the geographically descriptiveness refusal previously withdrawn was done so prematurely. Accordingly, applicant must respond to the following refusal, which is treated as a new refusal as to all goods and services identified in the application.

Registration Refused โ€“ Geographically Descriptive

Registration is refused because the proposed mark is primarily geographically descriptive of the origin of applicantโ€™s goods and services. Trademark Act Section 2(e)(2), 15 U.S.C. ยง1052(e)(2); TMEP ยงยง1210.01(a) and 1210.04 et seq.

A three-part test is applied to determine whether a mark is primarily geographically descriptive of the goods and/or services within the meaning of Trademark Act Section 2(e)(2):

(1) the primary significance of the mark is a generally known geographic place or location;

(2) purchasers would be likely to make a goods-place or services-place association, i.e., purchasers are likely to believe the goods or services originate in the geographic location identified in the mark; and

(3) the goods and/or services originate in the place identified in the mark.

See In re MCO Properties, Inc., 38 USPQ2d 1154 (TTAB 1995); In re California Pizza Kitchen, 10 USPQ2d 1704 (TTAB 1989); TMEP ยง1210.01(a).
 
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bigcassgbr said:
More "macao" names have been added

Maybe I'm missing something, but I still only see a few Macao names. Also, it seems there were about 9 or 10 more total names originally. I could certainly be wrong.
 
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namegame said:
Maybe I'm missing something, but I still only see a few Macao names. Also, it seems there were about 9 or 10 more total names originally. I could certainly be wrong.

I just did a quick comparison of the first spread sheet from 11/6/07 with the one released today. It looks like the total domain count increased by 190 domains. The domain count is now 1608.

Adding and deleting domains is standard before the auction.

At this point there are 11 Macao names, and 68 Macau names.

It would sure be nice if Moniker time-stamped the auction spreadsheets, or perhaps just put a rev-level on the file name.

Marc
 
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npcomplete said:
I just did a quick comparison of the first spread sheet from 11/6/07 with the one released today. It looks like the total domain count increased by 190 domains. The domain count is now 1608.

Adding and deleting domains is standard before the auction.

At this point there are 11 Macao names, and 68 Macau names.

It would sure be nice if Moniker time-stamped the auction spreadsheets, or perhaps just put a rev-level on the file name.

Marc

It would be really great if they would put any new names in revised lists in bold so they could easily be found.
 
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namegame said:
It would be really great if they would put any new names in revised lists in bold so they could easily be found.

This is also a good idea. Deletions could be flagged too. During the last TRAFFIC auction I was tracking daily additions/deletions, and it was a lot of work to see what has changed. There really does need to be a better way of tracking auction list changes...

Marc
 
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domainerph said:
I am not a lawyer so I can't make a good judgment. From USPTO on Sands application to trademark COTAI STRIP . FYI

OFFICE ACTION

TO AVOID ABANDONMENT, THE OFFICE MUST RECEIVE A PROPER RESPONSE TO THIS OFFICE ACTION WITHIN 6 MONTHS OF THE ISSUE/MAILING DATE.

ISSUE/MAILING DATE: 9/26/2007

The Office has reassigned this application to the undersigned trademark examining attorney.

This is in response to applicantโ€™s correspondence of February 21, 2007 regarding the trademark application identified above. In office action number 2, the examining attorney:

(1) Required applicant to disclaim the word STRIP, and

(2) Required applicant to pay additional fees to account for unpaid classes of goods or services.

In its response

(1) Applicant provided arguments and evidence against the disclaimer requirement. The examining attorney has considered this issue and is hereby withdrawing this requirement.

(2) Applicant paid the necessary fees for all remaining classes of goods and services. Accordingly, this requirement is no longer outstanding.

However on reconsideration of the issues, the examining attorney has determined that the geographically descriptiveness refusal previously withdrawn was done so prematurely. Accordingly, applicant must respond to the following refusal, which is treated as a new refusal as to all goods and services identified in the application.

Registration Refused โ€“ Geographically Descriptive

Registration is refused because the proposed mark is primarily geographically descriptive of the origin of applicantโ€™s goods and services. Trademark Act Section 2(e)(2), 15 U.S.C. ยง1052(e)(2); TMEP ยงยง1210.01(a) and 1210.04 et seq.

A three-part test is applied to determine whether a mark is primarily geographically descriptive of the goods and/or services within the meaning of Trademark Act Section 2(e)(2):

(1) the primary significance of the mark is a generally known geographic place or location;

(2) purchasers would be likely to make a goods-place or services-place association, i.e., purchasers are likely to believe the goods or services originate in the geographic location identified in the mark; and

(3) the goods and/or services originate in the place identified in the mark.

See In re MCO Properties, Inc., 38 USPQ2d 1154 (TTAB 1995); In re California Pizza Kitchen, 10 USPQ2d 1704 (TTAB 1989); TMEP ยง1210.01(a).

domainerph,

Thats very nice but if you have any doubts go and register a Cotai Strip name...and see what happens in about 2 to 2.5 months after you reg it. The lawyers from Duane Morris LLP will be calling. I guarantee it.
 
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can someone post the list here? I can't download on this computer because I don't have MS Excel on it. Thanks.

I submitted my names late but maybe they listed them. I can't open an excel document on this computer.

Can someone tell me if mine are listed? They are:
cotaicasino.com
cotai.cn
cotai.com.cn

Thanks in advance.
 
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The only names starting with "cotai" are:
cotaigambling.cn
cotaimacaustrip.com
cotaionline.cn
cotaistripmacauhotels.com

I am really puzzled why cotaicasino.com isn't there?!?!!?

tonto68 said:
can someone post the list here? I can't download on this computer because I don't have MS Excel on it. Thanks.

I submitted my names late but maybe they listed them. I can't open an excel document on this computer.

Can someone tell me if mine are listed? They are:
cotaicasino.com
cotai.cn
cotai.com.cn

Thanks in advance.
 
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ssamriga said:
The only names starting with "cotai" are:
cotaigambling.cn
cotaimacaustrip.com
cotaionline.cn
cotaistripmacauhotels.com

I am really puzzled why cotaicasino.com isn't there?!?!!?

The most typical reasons for rejection are 1.) quality, and 2.) reserves.

Obviously the quality was there for cotaicasino.com. If your reserves were too high then it would be rejected... remember, Moniker is a business, and if the domains do not sell then they do not make money, even if the domains are very high quality.

Marc
 
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just curious

Why is it that all of you assume just because the auction is taking place in macau, that your macau names should get in? The auction did not say "geo" or anything like that. It was for casino related, not related to the location. I see lots of people dissapointed because their names didn't get in, but that is not what they wanted.
 
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Almost nobody is making that assumption. OTOH, the person asking the question about cotaicasinos.com was asking a question about a very high quality gambling domain. My *guess* was that it was rejected based on reserves, given the quality of the domain.

I have 2 names in live auction, 6 in silent. Only two of my domains were Macau related, the others were general gambling.

Edits: above info is for the geo auction. Having one of those "thread confusion days". I have 18 domains listed in the Macau silent auction. There is no live auction. Nothing is finalized for Macau yet.

Marc
 
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I really do hope that this raises the interest and value in Macau/Macao names as I have a few (10 or so) Macau/Macao (I do this slash thing because I have domains with both spellings and want them to both be relevant and valuable:))

There is a lot of mystery here in the US for us who love Vegas because it seems even more extravagant if that is possible! So I think there is western interest and an opportunity to make some money on them. Is anyone doing well with their Macau/Macao names? I would like to set up a portal with as many relevant links as I can (I have DirectoryMacao/u.com,
MacauConnections.com, MacauResource.com, RealMacao.com and TrueMacao.com so of course would!) But I am not sure where to start. Any thoughts on this from fellow NPers? Thanks
 
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Edits: below info was for geo auction, not Macau. Sorry, I am just having one of those "thread confusion days". GEO added below.

I just contacted Moniker about a name that was listed on the GEO auction list but for which I did not receive the standard authorization request. The sales department described it as a "Missing FOA" or something like that.

If your name is listed in the GEO master auction list, and if you have not received an authorization request, then be sure to contact Moniker to clear this up. I had eight names listed at GEO, but one fell through the cracks in the authorization process. If one fell through the cracks there are probably others.

Edits: Sorry for the GEO/Macau confusion. I have Macau names in both... did you ever have one of those days....

Marc
 
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I think the reason some names that are the best for this auction did not get in is because this is a very small topic. Unless a person has done extensive study, they will not know the terms for Macau.

Many of the folks at Moniker may not know that certain names are direclty realted to this boom and may pass on them. We have to wait until the term is known more before it is seen by the staff as highly valuble.
 
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npcomplete said:
If your name is listed in the master auction list, and if you have not received an authorization request, then be sure to contact Moniker to clear this up.
Marc

Thanks for the info NP. I was waiting for a "final cut" list like with the recent Traffic auction.

Guess I need to write them.

Appreciated.
 
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npcomplete said:
I just contacted Moniker about a name that was listed on the auction list but for which I did not receive the standard authorization request. The sales department described it as a "Missing FOA" or something like that.

If your name is listed in the master auction list, and if you have not received an authorization request, then be sure to contact Moniker to clear this up. I had eight names listed, but one fell through the cracks in the authorization process. If one fell through the cracks there are probably others.

Marc


This is for Geo , not CAC ? no auth email sent yet?

But yes, I had four out of 10 on the list that did not get auth email, have contacted Moniker.
 
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I have 9 names and I did not get ANY emails from moniker. I just found them on my own. What is the deal? My moniker rep told me that he would contact me if any of my names made the list, but I don't think he has time to do anything.
 
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kellyandbryan said:
I have 9 names and I did not get ANY emails from moniker. I just found them on my own. What is the deal? My moniker rep told me that he would contact me if any of my names made the list, but I don't think he has time to do anything.


CAC or Geo ?

CAC list posted but no auth until next week.
 
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wot said:
CAC or Geo ?

CAC list posted but no auth until next week.

CAC is what they were talking about I thought
 
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