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Hello peeps, im looking for a webhost (resseller), at the moment i have a dedicated server - but i want a resseller since i sold some of my big sites. I need alot of bandwidth though maybe over 100gig+, but at a good price. Which hosting company do you guys think is good?

Polurnet was my favourite, but they dont offer enough bandwidth.

So post some companies ill check them out :)
 
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By the sounds of it your probably one of the smarter users when looking for web hosting however to answer your question it completely depends on your budget.

How much space & bandwidth were you looking for? What is your budget?
 
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jmweb said:
By the sounds of it your probably one of the smarter users when looking for web hosting however to answer your question it completely depends on your budget.

How much space & bandwidth were you looking for? What is your budget?
Yeah i am one of the smarter users :hehe:-, i looking for over 100gig maybe 200gig even - space wise i am looking for about 10+gig? budget doesnt really matter.
 
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ViolentJ said:
At clearlyhosted we have 3 resellers to choose from

30 gig space / unmeterd BW - $20.00 per month

60 gig space / unmeterd BW - $25.00 per month

unmeterd space / unmeterd BW - $30.00 per month
I think you should re-read the rules. Making offers in this section of the board (Web Hosting Discussion) is not allowed. I should also suggest that you change your hosting idea of unmetered space/bandwidth.
 
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he was asking for a host i simply told him what we offer. i did not offer it to him.

I will not chnage my unmeterd space / Unmeterd BW plan. simply read the tos and you will completely understand what WE mean by unmeterd. if u dont feel like reading them than this is what we mean by "unmeterd"

It means we will constantly upgrade the server your on and even move you to a dedicated server for free as long as you follow the rules and regs set by are TOS ( such as no free hosting, no warez sites, etc.....)

But as i see how that is coming close to offering in the wrong board i will remove it and send a PM instead.
 
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ViolentJ said:
he was asking for a host i simply told him what we offer. i did not offer it to him.

I will not chnage my unmeterd space / Unmeterd BW plan. simply read the tos and you will completely understand what WE mean by unmeterd. if u dont feel like reading them than this is what we mean by "unmeterd"

It means we will constantly upgrade the server your on and even move you to a dedicated server for free as long as you follow the rules and regs set by are TOS ( such as no free hosting, no warez sites, etc.....)

But as i see how that is coming close to offering in the wrong board i will remove it and send a PM instead.

So basically then it isn't unmetered...unmetered = unlimited...why lie?
 
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mayby you should re-read it. i just said it was unmeterd. unmeterd means that we will provide you with as much space as u need as long as you abide by the TOS.

would yall like me to rename the plan to "upgraded as much as you need"

As everyone who knows anything about hosting and server knows that there is no such thing as unlimited, but there is such thing as your host upgrading your acct and upgrading servers and even putting your acct on a dedicated server to provide you with an unmeterd acct.

Its much eaiser to name it unmeterd and explain what we mean buy it. We are not deceiving or lying to anyone. we clearly explain what unmeterd means.

Please explain to me how i am lying when its clearly stated and is in the TOS.
 
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Take a look at the DotFrog.Com reseller packages.
 
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ViolentJ said:
mayby you should re-read it. i just said it was unmeterd. unmeterd means that we will provide you with as much space as u need as long as you abide by the TOS.

would yall like me to rename the plan to "upgraded as much as you need"

As everyone who knows anything about hosting and server knows that there is no such thing as unlimited, but there is such thing as your host upgrading your acct and upgrading servers and even putting your acct on a dedicated server to provide you with an unmeterd acct.

Its much eaiser to name it unmeterd and explain what we mean buy it. We are not deceiving or lying to anyone. we clearly explain what unmeterd means.

Please explain to me how i am lying when its clearly stated and is in the TOS.

So if I used Unlimited resources (Resources that your server and cluster could not handle...IE: 1,000 GB Bandwidth and such)...you mean to tell me that since I am on an unmetered plan you would provide those resources?

Like I said...unmetered = cheezy new unlimited. You cannot provide clients unmetered space without restrictions. Why not just say what you will really offer IE: 20 GB Bandwidth. Unmetered in a shared/reseller environment is shady since it cannot be done. Sure you can get unmetered bandwidth on a dedicated server but then again on a shared environment it cannot be done. You mean to tell me that I can use up 1,000GB of unmetered bandwidth and you would provide it? Definition or not, saying unmetered is just like saying unlimited with resource restriction.

Unlimited had the same "restrictions" of resource, memory etc...so what's different from that and unmetered? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

As a host you very well know that many users don't read the ToS and then get slammed by it. For shame! Shady advertising practice at its best folks.
 
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I do know that many people do not read the TOS wich is why befor they oreder a reseller plan it is clearly stated. and yes im syaing we can provide you with unmeterd rescources. We started at as a small comapny and now host many sites. We have the funds and availble equipment to upgrade the server or even put them on a dedicated server free. We are gambling on the fact that thwy will not use that much space or bandwith But occationly it does happen.
 
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ViolentJ said:
I do know that many people do not read the TOS wich is why befor they oreder a reseller plan it is clearly stated. and yes im syaing we can provide you with unmeterd rescources. We started at as a small comapny and now host many sites. We have the funds and availble equipment to upgrade the server or even put them on a dedicated server free. We are gambling on the fact that thwy will not use that much space or bandwith But occationly it does happen.
I find it very interesting that you state that you can provide people with a dedicated server for free if they pay a small fee. If that is so then you wouldn't mind if I e-mail a few people your way who require a cluster for their websites. Would you be able to provide this for your small fees (60 gb of space)? Clearly you would go out of business as the costs of the cluster would not be covered by a measely $20/mo. This is the same scam we saw with unlimited offers.

Also...Please clarify occasionaly or rarely with clients. I doubt you occasionaly people using the bandwidth to such extremes. It is also very funny how you clearly hope that people don't read your ToS.

are servers never oversell and yes most of are customers do use 500 gig of bandwidt and somtimes more since we have alot of bands with streaming music and have alot of download sites
Found at: http://www.namepros.com/web-hosting-offers-and-requests/185233-cpanel-hosting.html

Interesting so you also say that most of the customers use over 500GB of bandwidth for $20/mo? Bandwidth can be sold at about .30/GB if purchased in bulk I fail to see where your profits lie here....


Also according to your AuP....
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Our Acceptable Use Policy ("AUP") is provided to give our customers and users a clear understanding of what we expect of them while using the service. All users of our services: those who access some of our Services but do not have accounts, as well as those who pay a service fee to subscribe to the Services, must comply with this AUP and our TOS (Terms of Service).

Use of our Service constitutes acceptance and agreement to The AUP as well as The TOS (Terms of Service)

We support the uncensored flow of information and ideas over the Internet and do not actively monitor subscriber activity under normal circumstances. Similarly, we do not exercise editorial control over the content of any web site, e-mail transmission, newsgroups, or other material created or accessible over or through the services, except for certain proprietary Web sites. However, in accordance with our TOS (Terms of Service), we may remove any materials that, in our sole discretion, may be illegal, may subject us to liability, or which may violate this AUP. We may cooperate with legal authorities and/or third parties in the investigation of any suspected or alleged crime or civil wrongdoing. Your violation of this AUP may result in the suspension or immediate termination of either your account or other actions as detailed in Section 3 WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE.

This document is intended to provide a basic understand of our Acceptable Use Policy. The following are guidelines for the establishment and enforcement of the AUP: 

โ€ข Ensure reliable service to our customers 

โ€ข Ensure security and privacy of our systems and network, as well as the networks and systems of others 

โ€ข Comply with existing laws 

โ€ข Maintain our reputation as a responsible service provider 

โ€ข Encourage responsible use of the Internet and discourage activities which reduce the usability and value of Internet services 

โ€ข Preserve the value of Internet resources as a conduit for free expression and exchange of information 

โ€ข Preserve the privacy and security of individual users 

We intend to provide our customers access to everything the Internet has to offer. While we are firmly committed to the principles of free speech, certain activities that may be damaging to the resources of both us and the Internet and cannot be permitted under the guise of free speech. The resources of us and the Internet are limited, and abuse of these resources by one user has a negative impact on the entire community.

We do not routinely monitor the activity of accounts except for measurements of system utilization and the preparation of billing records. However, in our efforts to promote good citizenship within the Internet community, we will respond appropriately if we become aware of inappropriate use of our service.

You may not use your dedicated rack or virtual site to publish material, which we determine, at our sole discretion, to be unlawful, indecent or objectionable. For purposes of this policy, "material" refers to all forms of communications including narrative descriptions, graphics (including photographs, illustrations, images, drawings, logos), executable programs, video recordings, and audio recordings.

If an account is used to violate the Acceptable Use Policy or our TOS, we reserve the right to terminate your service without notice. We prefer to advise customers of inappropriate behavior and any necessary corrective action, however, flagrant violations of the Acceptable Use Policy will result in immediate termination of service. Our failure to enforce this policy, for whatever reason, shall not be construed as a waiver of our right to do so at any time.

As a member of our network community, you must use your Internet access responsibly. If you have any questions regarding this policy, please contact us. 

 

VIOLATIONS OF The ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY
The following constitute violations of this AUP:
 

1. Illegal use: Our services may not be used for illegal purposes, or in support of illegal activities. We reserve the right to cooperate with legal authorities and/or injured third parties in the investigation of any suspected crime or civil wrongdoing.

2. Harm to minors: Use of our service to harm, or attempt to harm, minors in any way, including, but not limited to child pornography.

3. Threats: Use of our service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that threatens or encourages bodily harm or destruction of property.

4. Harassment: Use of our service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that harasses another.

5. Fraudulent activity: Use of our service to make fraudulent offers to sell or buy products, items, or services, or to advance any type of financial scam such as "pyramid schemes," "ponzi schemes," and "chain letters."

6. Forgery or impersonation: Adding, removing or modifying identifying network header information in an effort to deceive or mislead is prohibited. Attempting to impersonate any person by using forged headers or other identifying infrmation is prohibited. The use of anonymous remailers or nicknames does not constitute impersonation.

7. Unsolicited commercial e-mail / Unsolicited bulk e-mail (SPAM): Use of our service to transmit any unsolicited commercial or unsolicited bulk e-mail is expressly prohibited. Violations of this type will result in the immediate termination of the offending account.

IMPORTANT NOTICE:
BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY, anyone hosting websites or services on their server that support spammers or cause any of our IP space to be listed in any of the various Spam Databases will have their server immediately removed from our network. The server will not be reconnected until such time that you agree to remove ANY and ALL traces of the offending material immediately upon reconnection and agree to allow us access to the server to confirm that all material has been COMPLETELY removed. Severe violations may result in immediate and permanent removal of the server from our network without notice to the customer. Any server guilty of a second violation WILL be immediately and permanently removed from our network without notice.

8. E-mail / News Bombing: Malicious intent to impede another person's use of electronic mail services or news will result in the immediate termination of the offending account.

9. E-mail / Message Forging: Forging any message header, in part or whole, of any electronic transmission, originating or passing through our service is in violation of this AUP.

10. Usenet SPAMing: We have a zero tolerance policy for the use of its network for the posting of messages or commercial advertisements, which violate the rules, regulations, FAQ or charter of any newsgroups or mailing list. Commercial messages that are appropriate under the rules of a newsgroup or mailing list or that are solicited by the recipients are permitted.

11. Unauthorized access: Use of our service to access, or to attempt to access, the accounts of others, or to penetrate, or attempt to penetrate, security measures of ours or another entity's computer software or hardware, electronic communications system, or telecommunications system, whether or not the intrusion results in the corruption or loss of data, is expressly prohibited and the offending account is subject to immediate termination.

12. Copyright or trademark infringement: Use of the service to transmit any material (by e-mail, uploading, posting or otherwise) that infringes any copyright, trademark, patent, trade secret or other proprietary rights of any third party, including, but not limited to, the unauthorized copying of copyrighted material, the digitization and distribution of photographs from magazines, books, or other copyrighted sources, and the unauthorized transmittal of copyrighted software.

13. Collection of personal data: Use of the service to collect, or attempt to collect, personal information about third parties without their knowledge or consent.

14. Network disruptions and unfriendly activity: Use of the service for any activity which affects the ability of other people or systems to use our Services or the Internet. This includes "denial of service" (DOS) attacks against another network host or individual user. Interference with or disruption of other network users, services or equipment is prohibited. If your account is the cause of a CPU overloaded, you will be suspended and charged a 25$ fee to re-activate your account. It is the Member's responsibility to ensure that their network is configured in a secure manner. A Subscriber may not, through action or inaction, allow others to use their network for illegal or inappropriate actions. A Subscriber may not permit their network, through action or inaction, to be configured in such a way that gives a third party the capability to use their network in an illegal or inappropriate manner. Unauthorized entry and/or use of another company and/or individual's computer system will result in immediate account termination. We will not tolerate any subscriber attempting to access the accounts of others, or penetrate security measures of other systems, whether or not the intrusion results in corruption or loss of data.

15. Fraud: Involves a knowing misrepresentation or misleading statement, writing or activity made with the intent that the person receiving it will act upon it.

16. Infringement of Copyright, Patent, Trademark, Trade Secret, or Intellectual Property Right: Distribution and/or posting of copyrighted or the aforementioned infringements will not be tolerated.

17. Distribution of Viruses: Intentional distributions of software that attempts to and/or causes damage, harassment, or annoyance to persons, data, and/or computer systems are prohibited. Such an offense will result in the immediate termination of the offending account.

18. Inappropriate Use of Software: Use of software or any device that would facilitate a continued connection, i.e. pinging, while using our services could result in suspension of service.

19. Third Party Accountability: Our subscribers will be held responsible and accountable for any activity by third parties, using their account, that violates guidelines created within the Acceptable Use Policy. 

20. Violation Of our Virtual Accounts: It is absolutely forbidden to host pornographic content or IRC servers on Virtual Server Accounts. Virtual Server Accounts found hosting this material will be subject to immediate cancellation without refund. 

21. IRC networks: It is absolutely forbidden to host an IRC server that is part of or connected to another IRC network or server. Servers found to be connecting to or part of these networks will be immediately removed from our network without notice. The server will not be reconnected to the network until such time that you agree to completely remove any and all traces of the irc server, and agree to let us have access to your server to confirm that the content has been completely removed. Any server guilty of a second violation will result in immediate account termination. 

22. Unlimited Accounts: Unlimited Accounts are indeed unlimited. These accounts are not to be used to host a collection of MP3's, Warez, image hosting or gaming sites, giving away free hosting is cause for immediate termination, or to Backup Your Home Computer. These accounts may also not be used as a download distribution point for your bundled software. It is to be used for standard web practices and only standard web practices. If you have a questionable concern please contact us. If you know your site is going to use an un-normal usage, and sign up knowing this, we will require you to get a dedicated server. If you have any questions in regards to this please contact us. Un-Normal usage is anything that a shared server would not be able to provide. Again, contact us for approval if you feel you will fall into this clause.

23. Resellers: Resellers are responsible for enforcing the AUP and TOS to all of their clients. If their clients are found to be not following them, We will suspend the offending site and let the reseller know. If this continues to happen, Resellers main account will be suspended without notice and charged a 25$ admin fee to re-establish service. Resellers are responsible for anything their clients do. If you have any questions or concerns in regards to what is allowed and not allowed please contact us. 

24. Streaming Video and Audio: Streaming Video and Audio is not permitted on our servers. You must zip the content to prevent this if you wish to have it hosted, and as everything else this content must be legal content and can not have someone else's copyright.

25. Egg Drop - Egg Drop Scripts are Not allowed, These are grounds for immediate account deletion without a refund. 

26. Legal - If it is not legal in the United States of America, It is not permitted to reside on our server. If found, the account will be suspended.

27. Adult Material - Adult Material is not allowed, unless specified in your package deal or in the auction you may have bought from. Sites that contain adult material that is not on an adult approved server/package, the site will be suspended. 

28. Chinese Forums - Chinese Forums are not allowed on our network. These sites require to much CPU usage. They almost require a dedicated server to run properly. If they are found on any server we will suspend them, and charge an admin fee if they are the cause of a CPU overloaded. Admin charges are usually about 25$ Per Hour.

29. ANIME - Anime Sites are not allowed on our network. If an Anime Site is found we will terminate the account. These sites are not allowed on the server because about 95% of them are illegal.

 

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โ€ข Attempting to obtain another user's account password is strictly prohibited, and may result in termination of service. 

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โ€ข You may not attempt to circumvent user authentication or security of any host, network or account. This includes, but is not limited to, accessing data not intended for you, logging into or making use of a server or account you are not expressly authorized to access, or probing the security of other networks. Use or distribution of tools designed for compromising security is prohibited. Examples of these tools include, but are not limited to, password guessing programs, cracking tools or network probing tools. 

โ€ข You may not attempt to interfere with service to any user, host or network ("denial of service attacks"). This includes, but is not limited to, "flooding" of networks, deliberate attempts to overload a service, and attempts to "crash" a host. 

โ€ข Users who violate systems or network security may incur criminal or civil liability. We will cooperate fully with investigations of violations of systems or network security at other sites, including cooperating with law enforcement authorities in the investigation of suspected criminal violations. 

 

Network Performance 

Our accounts operate on shared resources. Excessive use or abuse of these shared network resources by one customer may have a negative impact on all other customers. Misuse of network resources in a manner which impairs network performance is prohibited by this policy and may result in suspension and/or termination of your account without notice. If your account is suspended and we decide to re-activate, you will be charged a 25$ fee before we do so.

You are prohibited from excessive consumption of resources, including CPU time, memory, disk space and session time. You may not use resource-intensive programs which negatively impact other customers or the performances of our systems or networks. We reserve the right to terminate or limit such activities.

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We request that anyone who believes that there is a violation of this AUP direct the information to us by email immediately.

If available, please provide the following information: 

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โ€ข Issue written or verbal warnings 

โ€ข Suspend the Member's newsgroup posting privileges 

โ€ข Suspend the Member's account 

โ€ข Terminate the Member's account 

โ€ข Bill the Member for administrative costs and/or reactivation charges 

โ€ข Bring legal action to enjoin violations and/or to collect damages, if any, cause by

The resources of us and the Internet are limited, and abuse of these resources by one user has a negative impact on the entire community.
A clear difference of what you just stated. You state you can offer unlimited resources then on your AuP located at that very same link you say another thing.

Our accounts operate on shared resources. Excessive use or abuse of these shared network resources by one customer may have a negative impact on all other customers. Misuse of network resources in a manner which impairs network performance is prohibited by this policy and may result in suspension and/or termination of your account without notice. If your account is suspended and we decide to re-activate, you will be charged a 25$ fee before we do so.

You are prohibited from excessive consumption of resources, including CPU time, memory, disk space and session time. You may not use resource-intensive programs which negatively impact other customers or the performances of our systems or networks. We reserve the right to terminate or limit such activities.

Another limitation to your "unmetered plans".

This is the same thing we see with unlimited hosting offers. You say unmetered when in truth you do meter them to a point of your choosing.

Please refrain from being fraudulent with your advertising to potential customers.
 
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Unmetered basiclly means there's no limit as long as they can afford the hosting.

If a company starts running out of business, then they start setting limits. Or, if one person is using like 1 TB and stuff, they'd ask him/her to slow down a bit.

People should know unmetered means there's no limit but it does not mean they can go crazy with 100GB of space or so. It also does not mean they can give free hosting with a lot of space and bandwidth.

Sounds like he/she has a good budget, so as long as the company is running, they can always upgrade their servers when they start running short on space/bandwidth.

There's a free forum hosting company (http://www.forumer.com) that's free, offers free forum hosting and has 12 servers and been a free hosting company for years and not running low on budget at all. All they do is place ads on your forum though.
 
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well romeo20 im glad at least 1 person understands what we mean by unmeterd. there is no changing these other guys minds on the topic of unmeterd.

As i know there is no such thing as Unlimited. Unlimited and unmeterd do not mean the same thing, In a last shot effort to explain what we mean by Unmeterd, we mean that that your acct can use as much space on the server that is left and not used by other clients. If you are giving away free hosting than or hosting sites with warez with any unmeterd reseller acct than we will not upgrade the server or put you on a dedicated server instead we will ask you to remove all the "bad" content within 10 days or the acct will be terminated, on the other hand if you are using the unmeterd reseller acct resonbly for your own use with your own domains or acting as a Webhost and making shure you are not hosting any "bad" content we would be happy to upgrade or move you to a dedicated server. When 1 of the servers is low on resources we are notified and we will then contact any reseller on That server and and tell them that there acct may be down for a few hours due to server upgrade to keep are promise of unlimited. If there is an acct on that server that is using an excess of resources we will look further into there acct and see if there is any bad content. if not we will send them A second email informing them that There acct may be down for a few more hours, due to moving them to a dedicated server. If there is "bad" content they will get an email demanding they remove the "bad" content within 10 days or they will be terminated.

Thanks, for your time
I Cannot make anyone beleive Me or my Company but what i can do is explain to the best of my ability What Unmeterd means to us.
 
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Im not interested in people who are selling 60gb space/unmetered bandwidth for $4-5. This over selling and the server often goes offline, because of the slowness of it. I looking for a good resseller/VPN hosting. The company MUST have their own datacenter! Post any good ones you know:)
 
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polurnet would be a good host for you. I have had many hosts and they are the best hands down

They offer a reseller with 120gigs. thats more then you are asking for.
 
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I use the "Pro" package offered by Dotster.com, but the "Advanced" package (one size smaller than mine) offers 20GB of storage and 1,000GB bandwidth for 14.95/month.
 
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