Is Adam Dicker a criminal? You decide.

[S-B]

This story starts with DNF; a barren wasteland that once was a leading forum within the domain industry. While the forum itself played a huge role in propagating the myth that is Adam Dicker, the story really begins with DNF College in the summer of 2011.

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Updates / Reports
These are in no particular order.

• Report by headsupp (Resolved)
  • Relevant Videos
  • Reply to Adam
  • Update: Resolved
  
  
• Report by LannyB (Unresolved)
  • Response
    • Follow-up Questions
  
  
• Report by domainesque (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unresolved
  • Report Details
  • Update: Waiting on Refund
  
  
• Report of Shane Cultra's friends (Unresolved)
  • Update: Unpaid
  
  
• Report by Jeff Markus (Dissatisfied)
  
  
• Report by simmplex (Resolved)
  • Refunded
  
  
• Report by Blenja_Man (Pending)
  • Voucher
  • Update: Work in Progress
  
  
• Report by RandysDomains (Resolved)
  • Resolved
  
  
• Report by swamismith (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by Charlie (Unresolved)
  • Cover-up
  • Update: Unresolved
  
  
• Report by Jaqpot (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by anon22339 (Unresolved)
  • Details
  
  
• Report by Joseph Peterson (Resolved)
  • Update: Unpaid after 8 days
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Frank Schilling (Resolved)
  • Update: Paid
  
  
• Report by Lonewolf5503 (Paypal Dispute)
  • Update: Website not delivered and no longer accessible
  • Update: Lonewolf5503 wins PayPal dispute
  
  
• Report by GermanRaven (Unresolved)
  • Update: Full story
  
  
• Report by ClaudeDauman (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by bobsranch (Unresolved)
  • Details
  • Update: Legal Letter Received
  
  
• Report by Newby888 (Unresolved)
  
  
• Report by dougasd (Unresolved)

From what I understand, Adam still owes north of $33,000 to previous customers and business partners. As I receive more information, I will update this figure.

 

[Jen-Sin]

You think I decided by myself not to release part 2?

This isn't about me and it's a complicated situation.

Just leave it alone.

This wouldn't had happened if you had not withheld part 2 in the first place.

Can't blame others questioning your agenda. And when others question you, you brush them aside. At least Adam try to answer some of your questions.

There are parts that are true and parts that are simply untrue. Your source sent me an email saying that I had Until October 5th to pay a certain amount or they would release info they THOUGHT were true.

There are not as many as you think, you need to remember that this story that was sent to Shane was all started by employees that were terminated/left the company and yes that I tried to grow it too fast with some good people and some of the wrong people. My fault, I was the CEO. Businesses fail.
Incidentally, it took way too long, but all these employees are paid in full. It's no surprise that they day after the last one was paid the story came out.

I publicly stated on Monday morning I would pick my gf up from work, an appointment I had ran late that day so my mother ended up having to drive my gf to my house and drop her off. I guess I should have never told anyone I would pick her up since it wasnt my intention.......orrr do things change sometimes based on unexpected circumstances which in this case would be Adam putting more effort into repaying debts than maybe Shane originally expected?

Well, this scenario seems more like:

"I can pick up my gf from work on Monday morning, but I chose not to until Friday.

And because I have an appointment I had ran late, my best friend ended up having to drive my gf to my house and drop her off.

And now, both my gf and best friend are missing."

 

[djum]

I seriously doubt that the KGB cares about this

I seriously doubt KGB even exist, maybe in Belarus, but what you think of called is FSB now.

 

[Blenja_Man]

So Adam is paying you guys back by promising (in the future) to give you some software and.... (in the future) give you advice on how to run your business?

You can't make this sh*t up

I have access to the software, and he is sending some clients my way. We'll likely get something in writing to confirm what he's going to do for me to make things up before I feel like we're really on the same page, and so I know he's really going to make a major effort. I'm just letting everyone know that we're in the process of working it out. If we don't make some real headway, I haven't lost anything by trying to work anything out. I think Adam knows that if he wants me to let people know he's made things right, he is going to have to follow through. We're not there yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

My goal in coming forward was to warn people about what happened and try to get myself back on track. Adam seems willing to talk, so that's the stage we're at. I'll gladly keep you posted.

If ever "fool me once..." applied to something...

If I had any skin in the game this time, that might be true. There's no shame in giving Adam a chance to work things out. If he helps, that's great. If he doesn't, lots of people will know that he flaked again. I'm not asking for a fat paycheck from him to keep me quiet as many people seem to think I should.

 

[BelgianGuru]

So Adam is paying you guys back by promising (in the future) to give you some software and.... (in the future) give you advice on how to run your business?

You can't make this sh*t up

people are genuinely nice, and even nicer when they deal with somebody that is importanrt,
they were abused in the first place because they let someone took advantage of them

Adam Dicker is the guy still running for the shinning objects, trying to turn these Nichewebsites in million dollars websites, he just don't have a clue how to get there
The softwares he use are these useless push-button miracle that will help you sell domain names like hot cakes. this system don't work, except for the ones selling the software and their affiliates

 

[Charley]

Will Adam Dicker be revoked from the Domain Industry Hall of Fame inductees?

I think the big guys & industry insiders should discuss and seriously consider it.

 

[Coldtrigger]

He is now fixing the issues with the ones that step forward, yes- but what about the ones that dont read this thread nor ever see it... i am after reading some past posts 100% sure, that if Adam would take 5 minutes to think a bit he could think of endless people like lanny and Benja ... will HE reach out to them because they dont see this post and dont reach out to him? . . . . . . THAT would be the character change that would be needed- and none else.

This.

 

[indiegrind]

Blenja, its good that you have faith in people, but you are really being naive. I see people get conned, complain, and go back to only get conned again regularly. Dont be that sucker. Get made whole financially, sever ties, and dont look back

Going into this, the godaddy thing, the nichewebsites issues, the fake dicker team, the dncollege, the miracle software, mugshots.com, all are unethical business practices.

There is a long track record of exploitation of people in a weaker position. Not just utilization of their services to capatalize, but explotation.

When do you realize that a person isnt trustworthy? This isnt the first occurance, and this isnt the first time issues have come to light in a major way.

I have nothing against Mr. Dicker, I actually feel that his interviews and negotiation tips have made me more successful as a newbie to domaining, and he hasnt profited from me at all, but I do think enough information has come to light that you have to realise that the hopes and dreams being sold to you are smoke and mirrors.

 

[Optimal Names]

Adam may have over-promised. Most companies do. Why are we still buying unstable o/s and defective systems? Why does NASA & Musk still risk lives by sending rockets to space?

Is that being criminal? Adam is making efforts to resolve this. Give him his due. Some may have a genuine complaint against Adam, but most of you are just eager to bring someone down.

Do you get the size and quality sandwich you see aired on TV? No!

This is how the world works. To allude someone as a criminal is excessive and uncalled for. All of you vote for your elected officials based on the promises they make. They then, stab you in the back.

I am not defending Adam, as I do not know all the facts much as many of you don't, but this thread is simply overkill. Pretty beardboy with canine by his side is not the angel without an agenda of his own.

I over promise when I tell you I will make you 12 but only make you 4. I commit fraud when I tell you I will make you 12 for $1500 and make you ZERO and then ignore your calls, emails, and eventual requests for a refund.

And to answer your question - yes, companies DO get sued for false claims like the sandwich and defective operating systems.

But, yes, he's trying to right the wrongs he made. Thats progress.

 

[BelgianGuru]

Adam may have over-promised. Most companies do. Why are we still buying unstable o/s and defective systems? Why does NASA & Musk still risk lives by sending rockets to space?

Is that being criminal? Adam is making efforts to resolve this. Give him his due. Some may have a genuine complaint against Adam, but most of you are just eager to bring someone down.

Do you get the size and quality sandwich you see aired on TV? No!

This is how the world works. To allude someone as a criminal is excessive and uncalled for. All of you vote for your elected officials based on the promises they make. They then, stab you in the back.

I am not defending Adam, as I do not know all the facts much as many of you don't, but this thread is simply overkill. Pretty beardboy with canine by his side is not the angel without an agenda of his own.

a lot of people who become domainers, have others expertise(just check for yourself)

i can say for having biuld and worked with websites that received thousands of qualified buyers a day, that his NicheWebsite is a terrible badly deisgned websites that will give you no results. the people who created these designs have no clue about "Conversion"; they are the typical webmaster wwho follow trends, or try to reproduce what look cool and is floating around.

it is really hard to give the benefits of the doubt to someone, who put the CEO of Yahoo picture on his website, pretending that she was a broker, and to add up used another name. this is unacceptable, and only unethical people will go to these lengths.

what people here are doing, is trying to help those who felt in this bad spot, and make sure that they wake up for real.
his business model is broken,
his domaining advices are a mix of good and bad and terrible advices, just go hear at his podcast, he always overpriced crappy domains that won't sell for 100$

 

[Jen-Sin]

it is really hard to give the benefits of the doubt to someone, who put the CEO of Yahoo picture on his website, pretending that she was a broker, and to add up used another name. this is unacceptable, and only unethical people will go to these lengths.

I don't think there's anyone in the world who is stupid enough to put the picture of the CEO of Yahoo as his staff. Most likely it's done by an disgruntled (ex?) employee.

But we still can't deny the intent to inflate the size of the team to impress? To deceive?

Now I wonder how many real people are working for his other businesses.

 

[London555]

Adam may have over-promised. Most companies do. Why are we still buying unstable o/s and defective systems? Why does NASA & Musk still risk lives by sending rockets to space?

Is that being criminal? Adam is making efforts to resolve this. Give him his due. Some may have a genuine complaint against Adam, but most of you are just eager to bring someone down.

Do you get the size and quality sandwich you see aired on TV? No!

This is how the world works. To allude someone as a criminal is excessive and uncalled for. All of you vote for your elected officials based on the promises they make. They then, stab you in the back.

I am not defending Adam, as I do not know all the facts much as many of you don't, but this thread is simply overkill. Pretty beardboy with canine by his side is not the angel without an agenda of his own.

Dicker is making efforts to resolve this because he got caught and because of Shane's efforts with this blog. Period. What are you talking about?

 

[Domain Truth]

I have access to the software, and he is sending some clients my way. We'll likely get something in writing to confirm what he's going to do for me to make things up before I feel like we're really on the same page, and so I know he's really going to make a major effort. I'm just letting everyone know that we're in the process of working it out. If we don't make some real headway, I haven't lost anything by trying to work anything out. I think Adam knows that if he wants me to let people know he's made things right, he is going to have to follow through. We're not there yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

My goal in coming forward was to warn people about what happened and try to get myself back on track. Adam seems willing to talk, so that's the stage we're at. I'll gladly keep you posted.



If I had any skin in the game this time, that might be true. There's no shame in giving Adam a chance to work things out. If he helps, that's great. If he doesn't, lots of people will know that he flaked again. I'm not asking for a fat paycheck from him to keep me quiet as many people seem to think I should.

Don't shortchange yourself in regards to your expectations of Dicker's reparations to you. Your time and work are worth something. Value it. Once this is done, you can't go back. Make him make it truly right by you.

 

[Abdillahi Abdillahi]

I don't think there's anyone in the world who is stupid enough to put the picture of the CEO of Yahoo as his staff. Most likely it's done by an disgruntled (ex?) employee.

But we still can't deny the intent to inflate the size of the team to impress? To deceive?

Now I wonder how many real people are working for his other businesses.

So even if ex. Employee did add that photo qhat does that make him as a company owner? You dont check your website? That is not an execuse ex employee

 

[nomen]

I've almost completed reading everything in this thread, and while I in the beginning was kind of excited about the entertainment factor, I'm now, after reading everything, just sad.

 

[domaindevil]

I feel sorry for both parties here.

This will ruin Adam's reputation and career. Who would like do do business with him after this? I know I would not. He seemed to be a nice guy and he has given alot of newbies good tips (and bad ones as well). As many times before - it all seemed too good and easy to be true.

On the other hand I feel terribly sorry for all the people that feel that they have been scammed and lost their money and time. Anybody can lose $1000 on a bad business deal, get it back and leave it all behind. The time that they have put into it is not as easy to get back.

 

[HeyNow]

Do you get the size and quality sandwich you see aired on TV? No!

I don't pay thousands of dollars for a sandwich. I pay around $7 at Subway. If I paid Subway $3k for my sandwich, and they handed me a tiny piece of crap, I'd call the police.

Call the police.

 

[Raindrops]

I have access to the software, and he is sending some clients my way. We'll likely get something in writing to confirm what he's going to do for me to make things up before I feel like we're really on the same page, and so I know he's really going to make a major effort. I'm just letting everyone know that we're in the process of working it out. If we don't make some real headway, I haven't lost anything by trying to work anything out. I think Adam knows that if he wants me to let people know he's made things right, he is going to have to follow through. We're not there yet, but it's a step in the right direction.

My goal in coming forward was to warn people about what happened and try to get myself back on track. Adam seems willing to talk, so that's the stage we're at. I'll gladly keep you posted.

If I had any skin in the game this time, that might be true. There's no shame in giving Adam a chance to work things out. If he helps, that's great. If he doesn't, lots of people will know that he flaked again. I'm not asking for a fat paycheck from him to keep me quiet as many people seem to think I should.

While your passivity - given the backstory you shared here - probably causes some here to suspect Stockholm Syndrome at play, if it works for you and you're satisfied with the resolution that is all that matters. I'm not sure anyone has advocated you get compensated for silence. If anything, it's been the ongoing silence of many that let this thing grow to a crescendo. It's a positive you're moving forward feeling comfortable with your continued working relationship.

While the domaining community ranges from all types, sorts, cultures, bank accounts....etc, the strong reactions here are probably sourced in numerous perspectives, known and not. Some people - even if they're a 10 domain portfolio of hand regs - take this as a personal reflection on them. Some people are angry that they operate in integrity, but see the lesser of character reap the rewards. Some just like a good ol' fall of grace. Some want to see a long suspected charlatan get exposed to the light. Others still, may readily recognize that there are people in this industry that don't even really domain anymore - they're just vampires preying on the new and the naive.

Adam Dicker probably does overpromise and underdeliver sometimes. That happens. Likewise, Adam Dicker preys on the new and naive. Sure, it's greed operating on both sides of the equation; the initiates want that "s**tloads of money", Adam wants them to cough up $250 to videotape himself evaluating and appraising their domains. Whatever works. He isn't the only one operating in that fashion, and he won't be the last; he is held to a higher standard because of his reputation and position of influence though.

At the end of the day, no matter what gloss and glitz is draped over this "industry", it's pretty much just a haven for.....

 

[discobull]

If I had any skin in the game this time, that might be true. There's no shame in giving Adam a chance to work things out. If he helps, that's great. If he doesn't, lots of people will know that he flaked again. I'm not asking for a fat paycheck from him to keep me quiet as many people seem to think I should.

People don't change overnight. He's been doing this stuff long enough and has done it to enough people that it's fair to conclude that being deceptive is part of his nature. It's possible that he's turned a corner, but I'd assume the opposite until he's proven himself trustworthy over an extended period of time. It's great that he's trying to make things right RIGHT NOW, but how's he going to behave once the heat is taken off of him? Will he be terribly concerned about a public complaint from you in a few months when yours might be the only voice of complaint?

A dollar value can be placed on everything he's offering you. I'd suggest figuring out what that value is and asking for it. If he doesn't have the money, ask him to pay you in domains or in some other way where you're getting something tangible TODAY. Whether you have skin in the game or not, if you feel you're owed something, why not collect it while you have a chance?

 

[S-B]

Just an FYI Shane Cultra noted that he had a friend who had been scammed by Adam too.

http://domainshane.com/domainshanes-big-list-domain-auction-picks-friday-october-9th-2015/

 

[frank-germany]

So even if ex. Employee did add that photo qhat does that make him as a company owner? You dont check your website? That is not an execuse ex employee

no when my site is done
I dont check it no more