In the LLLL.com world, Is "Y" a vowel? VOTE NOW

[GreenGambler]

I've noticed alot of arguments latley about if a Y is a vowel or a consonant.

I know that in English there are certain rules that apply when trying to decide if a Y is a vowel or not but those rules are hard to work with in the LLLL.com world.

So basically I want to see what the majority of us domainers think a Y is, when considering LLLL.coms?


Consonant or Vowel?

 

[Dotmainer]

only if its last letter, like in "only" -> "onli"

 

[Coopey]

Depends on language too. (Where I come from 'w' is a vowel. And wydd is perfectly pronounceable)

Assuming we mean English, in most English text serves as a vowel or at least will often act as a 'semivowel' (which is actually a type of consonant).

When looking at LLLL's I will pronounce it 'i', 'e' 'y' or 'j' depending on position and adjacent letter(s). So in my opinion, unless it's an existing word, y is poor letter.

only if its last letter, like in "only" -> "onli"

How do you explain thyme then? (pronounced 'time')
Or ypsiliform? (pronounced eep-silli-form)

 

[Earthian]

it is rather simple to sort this out really ...


when you try to pronounce the letter "Y" (in a word) does the air coming out of your mouth flow freely , like when you speak a vowel (say the letter "A" or "O" loudly for example) ? ... or does it hit some surface in your mouth or any two surfaces touch each other , like when you say a consonant (say the letter "D" , "L" or "M" loudly for example)


if it the air flows , it is a vowel ... if there is contact , it is a consonant ...


eg. in "sunny" it is a vowel ... in "yoyo" it is a consonant ...


same goes for "W" ("web" ... "saw")












you can use the same "trick" too determine if an "n" is needed in the article in front of the word ...

is it pronounced like starting with a vowel ? ... you put "an" ... is it pronounced like starting with a consonant ? ... you put "a" ...

eg. a network ... an elevator ...



this can be used to determine whether (individual) letters get an "a" or an "an" ...

eg. the letter "K" is pronounced like it starts with a consonant (pronounced "Kay") ... but the letter "N" is pronounced like it starts with a vowel (pronounced "eN") ... therefore you would say ... a "K" ... but ... an "N" ...

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[Optinom]

Rule of thumb for LLLL.coms - 'Y' in 2nd & 4th positions is mostly vowel.. Else, consonant.

 

[italiandragon]

Rule of thumb for LLLL.coms - 'Y' in 2nd & 4th positions is mostly vowel.. Else, consonant.

well.......how about:

FLYU.COM ?

Maybe we should ask to eBay and SONY ?

 

[GreenGambler]

Rule of thumb for LLLL.coms - 'Y' in 2nd & 4th positions is mostly vowel.. Else, consonant.

Interesting way of looking at it, makes sense.

 

[ilcesco]

For domain pronunciability, I would consider it as a vowel (and I would advertise it as such) if and only if it's in the -last- position.

 

[WORDSWORTH]

Interesting thread. 'Y' can act as a vowel in certain situations, for instance in the word, 'Hymn.'

However, a made-up domain advertised as being, say, VCVC IMO should contain only AEIOU for vowels and not Y. It's the only way to be sure that all buyers will see it that way and avoid any possible misunderstanding.

I'm sure some will disagree, but at least this way everyone is happy

I would sell a LLLL.com domain where the Y was acting as a vowel as, for example, CVCY.

Matt.

 

[VURG]

Where I come from 'w' is a vowel. And wydd is perfectly pronounceable

Please explain, I'm interested.

What language?

What sound?

Examples of when w is a vowel in real words.

wydd
- sounds like wood?
- sounds like wierd?

 

[Coopey]

Please explain, I'm interested.

What language?

What sound?

Examples of when w is a vowel in real words.

wydd
- sounds like wood?
- sounds like wierd?

Welsh

There are three main sounds made by 'w'
'oo' (as in wood)
'u' (as in ruse)
and sometimes the English 'w' consonant (usually in English loanwords)

wydd would be actually be pronounced "ou'eeth" (dd makes a 'th' sound and is actually a digraph, one letter, in Welsh- wydd.com would be an LLL.com in Welsh)

 

[italiandragon]

I already said this ....italian alphabet is made of only 21 letters....no j,k,x,y,w ........much easier

 

[Dotmainer]

I already said this ....italian alphabet is made of only 21 letters....no j,k,x,y,w ........much easier

cool, but ... how do you write ITALY (without Y) ?

 

[ilcesco]

cool, but ... how do you write ITALY (without Y) ?

Italia

 

[NeeJam]

I guess you should all read this: http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutother/lettery?view=uk

I thought it was a consonant however it can be considered a vowel becuase it can be used to represent different sounds in different words. Typically its a consonant however, it depends on the LLLL.com if it changes the sounding when saying it like vowels do.

 

[tristanperry]

Y is never a vowel - simple as. At least not in the modern day English which we all speak.

 

[namenut]

Rule of thumb for LLLL.coms - 'Y' in 2nd & 4th positions is mostly vowel.. Else, consonant.

I like that rule of thumb but ...


I think this is my school of thought. The "y" seems to be "bi-lingo".
Yoyo would have the "y" as the consonant but in MyMy as the vowel. This makes the arguement that the "y" is both .... C & V. "bi-lingo"


namenut

 

[italiandragon]

cool, but ... how do you write ITALY (without Y) ?

:great:

I should take a picture of your reply!

Italy is the way English speakers call it, not the way Italians do ......do you think that Sweden , Germany , Spain , France are the way locals write their own countries? :p

 

[cache]

I have the following on the 3rd position, and they are used as vowels in English
http://Oryd.com
http://Ovyd.com

Rule of thumb for LLLL.coms - 'Y' in 2nd & 4th positions is mostly vowel.. Else, consonant.

 

[Optinom]

I have the following on the 3rd position, and they are used as vowels in English
http://Oryd.com
http://Ovyd.com

Agreed, its just a thumb-rule. Doesn't work always. Plus, we assess whether a letter acts as a vowel just to measure how pronounceable the domain is. IMO Oryd & Ovyd are not pronounceable. May be, if the 4th letter is a vowel, "Y" at 3rd place could make the word pronounceable.