.mobi How much is your evaluation news.mobi ?

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Request for Proposals (RFP) Process

The Request for Proposals (RFP) process commences on 6 November 2006. The .mobi domain names to be offered through the initial RFP process are:

news.mobi
ringtones.mobi
sports.mobi
weather.mobi

To apply, please download our application. Applications are due by 16 February 2007.

All process questions are to be received by February 2 2007.

dotMobi will review the submitted proposals per the evaluation criteria included in the application and will announce winning proposals March 2007.

The RFP process was approved by ICANN and was developed in collaboration with our Policy Advisory Board. It provides an opportunity to develop critical mobile user content in order to promote the adoption and use of the .mobi domain.

 

[slugraduate]

I've said before that this domain will require a minimum of $500,000. I have believed from the outset that News, Music and Sports are going to be the big players in this domain, as these are the most currently sought items in mobile computing.

I wouldn't be suprised to be anything over a million. I would be shocked to see it far less. When flowers.mobi sells for 200k, even if it was just an attention ploy, you can bet your _ _ _ that news will be the largest sale of the bunch.

As the owner of newscast, I am waiting anxiously to see where news.mobi goes.

 

[whitebark]

As the owner of a newscast I would do the same as the BBC - use your existing website. There is no need to spend inflated dollars for another domain.

ringtones is the one that will make its owner the most money.

 

[slugraduate]

Im not sure I follow your comment. Just to clarify, I own newscast.mobi, not .com. I am hoping for a huge sale on the news.mobi name and that will carry over to nice sales for quality generic news names. I do not see many second tier news names worth much, other than worldnews, localnews, etc. It is my hope that newscast will fall in that second tier list.

I assume that you mean that the BBC is not going to bid on news.mobi? I wasn't aware of that fact. If that is the business decision they have made, then I am sure that they have thought it not in thier best interest. However, if the .mobi does become the default mobile browser domain, either by design or habit, then they have made a big mistake in my opinion. If they have failed to obtain bbc.mobi via trademark app and the same holds true, you can bet they will make haste in filing a WIPO dispute.

As the owner of a newscast I would do the same as the BBC - use your existing website. There is no need to spend inflated dollars for another domain.

ringtones is the one that will make its owner the most money.

 

[fautebol]

If they have failed to obtain bbc.mobi via trademark app

Not that I disagree with you, but just to clarify, they did get bbc.mobi via trademark app.

 

[slugraduate]

Thanks. I didn't know if they had or had not regged the name.

Not that I disagree with you, but just to clarify, they did get bbc.mobi via trademark app.

 

[namewaiter]

I may be missing something, but are these names actually being 'auctioned' off?

I don't see it mentioned, I mean will each application include a dollar amount they are offering to acquire the domain or are they just taking applications based on TM or industry positioning, development capabilities etc.? Will the registry's profit be in the number of $500 applications they recieve?

Are you expecting them to come out and make public any amount they are offered for each domain? I don;t see them saying news.mobi was bought for ... ringtones.mobi was bought for ... etc. I don't think this will happen.

 

[slugraduate]

All approved applicatants for each name will be allowed to make a bid in the auction process. I am not sure if it will be an ebay type bidding system, or a sealed bid situation. Seems to me that allowing the bidders to duke it out would be best.

I thought that on their website, MTLD stated that once the auction ends, the winner and winning bid will be made available to the public. I cannot find that statement now. I would be dissapointed if they did not release that info. It would make sense for MTLD to require that info to be out there to boost future premium auctions.

 

[whitebark]

BBC has used their existing website to serve mobile content. Check for yourselves - just go to their homepage with your mobile device and you will be automatically directed to mobile friendly code. They will not be using their .mobi domain - and the vast majority of large commercial websites are or will be doing the same thing.

.mobi will never be the default for mobile devices. Not when the vast majority of websites already serving mobile content are all on other extensions - and couple that with any website can already be viewed with a mobile device. It defies all logic to think that it will become the default.

As for - newscast.mobi - nothing wrong with that one at all. Actually one of the better .mobi domains out there.

 

[fautebol]

They will not be using their .mobi domain

How do you know?

 

[Traveler]

BBC has used their existing website to serve mobile content. Check for yourselves - just go to their homepage with your mobile device and you will be automatically directed to mobile friendly code. They will not be using their .mobi domain - and the vast majority of large commercial websites are or will be doing the same thing.

.mobi will never be the default for mobile devices. Not when the vast majority of websites already serving mobile content are all on other extensions - and couple that with any website can already be viewed with a mobile device. It defies all logic to think that it will become the default.

As for - newscast.mobi - nothing wrong with that one at all. Actually one of the better .mobi domains out there.

Not a personal attack but from your posts it seems you are very much against .mobi. What I can't understand is why you continue to lurk around in the .mobi forum. We get it, you don't think .mobi is necessary.

 

[thinking1]

I think it's funny how some people go out of there way to attack people for something they like. This is a Mobi Forum. If you like the extension then stay here and post. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to post about why it will fail or why we don't need it. That's incredibly chidlish.

 

[slugraduate]

I don't mind at all if someone likes to posts their views of .mobi, pro or con. As long as it is factual and or reasoned. After all, if I wanted to only hear what I wanted to about the ext, I would talk to myself more than I already do. Just kidding. I respect whitebark's views. However, I think it is short sighted to say that:

".mobi will never be the default for mobile devices. Not when the vast majority of websites already serving mobile content are all on other extensions - and couple that with any website can already be viewed with a mobile device. It defies all logic to think that it will become the default."

History is littered with statements that so and so won't work. How many people told the Wright brothers that man can't fly or that Columbus would fall off of the edge of the Earth? You state that .mobi will never be the default. How do you know for sure? Why does it defy all logic? Just because we are thinking in todays terms of net usage? You also state that "They will not be using their .mobi domain." I ask how can you possibly know what they will or will not do? They may believe that they won't, but that does not make it so if business customs change enough to dictate it. Why else invest in it, if there is no chance of it happeneing? I will tell you why. It is because there is always a chance they will.

Like I said, I welcome the opposite opinions, I just want to know reasons behind them.

 

[snoop]

This is a Mobi Forum. If you like the extension then stay here and post. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to post about why it will fail or why we don't need it. That's incredibly chidlish.

Where does it say this forum is only for positive comments about .mobi?, and whay would it be childish to make negative comments? People should value both sides of the debate.

 

[thinking1]

Posts such as

".mobi will never be the default for mobile devices. Not when the vast majority of websites already serving mobile content are all on other extensions - and couple that with any website can already be viewed with a mobile device. It defies all logic to think that it will become the default."


How can someone say that without factual statements to back them up? If he said something like. "mtld decided that mobi was a failure so they are deleting the extension." Then that would be plausible, but if you are so strongly against something simple facts to support yourself are good.

I also value hearing the negative side because I like seeing the whole picture. But when you hear that this extension is going to fail, over, and over, and over again with no facts or simple support. It makes you wonder why someone bothers even posting except to simply gain more posts.

 

[snoop]

How can someone say that without factual statements to back them up? If he said something like. "mtld decided that mobi was a failure so they are deleting the extension." Then that would be plausible, but if you are so strongly against something simple facts to support yourself are good.

Isn't this obvious that is a statement of opinion? If someone came onto this forum and stated that at some point .mobi will become the default extension on mobile devices would you question them in a similar way? Likewise if someone constantly said the extension will succeed would this also be seen by you as a way to build post count?

 

[slugraduate]

Hey, I would be bitter too if I lived in Canada this time of year. :hehe:

 

[whitebark]

I think it's funny how some people go out of there way to attack people for something they like. This is a Mobi Forum. If you like the extension then stay here and post. Otherwise there is absolutely no reason to post about why it will fail or why we don't need it. That's incredibly chidlish.

What's childish is not being able to face a differing viewpoint. Why post anything if all you want to hear is what you expect to hear? You might as well go and face the mirror and talk to yourself.

Not one of the mobi fans attacking me for daring to say the truth ever counters the obvious - like the BBC example. How do I know they won't be using the .mobi domain? Well because they already have mobile content on their existing website for crying out loud! Why would they duplicate what already exists? To waste money?

Come back to reality some of you. .mobi doesn't create mobile content. Demand via the market does, and it's already been proven that you don't need .mobi to meet that market demand. Why does it bother some of you to hear the obvious?

Geez - if you can't take criticism you should just lock yourselves away. The world of commerce is not a giant love-in where everybody agrees with your viewpoint or idea of what is what.

As for neobodhi's wrong assertion - I own three mobi domains. I've even posted a thread looking for more. I take exception to people saying wild fanciful things - like "However, if the .mobi does become the default mobile browser domain," - when there is zero evidence to support that assertion. I know that yet I will still buy/hold and develop a few .mobi domains.

.mobi has become an over-hyped product that will in my estimation make the few that flip early lots of money, and those that don't wish they did. The fact is technology is moving faster than people developing .mobi domains. Mobiles by this time next year will be reading standard html output as the author intended it making special coding unnecessary. That doesn't mean mobi becomes obsolete, it just lumps it in with every other tld more than it is now. Those with good keywords and in demand products/services will do fine - all these non-mobile related domains will not.

In two years we can look back and see who is right and who was wrong. Until then, not everyone is here to jump up and down at the mere mention of .mobi.

Where does it say this forum is only for positive comments about .mobi?, and whay would it be childish to make negative comments? People should value both sides of the debate.

I'm guessing by your reasoned response that you are an adult...

 

[thinking1]

What's childish is not being able to face a differing viewpoint. Why post anything if all you want to hear is what you expect to hear? You might as well go and face the mirror and talk to yourself.

Not one of the mobi fans attacking me for daring to say the truth ever counters the obvious - like the BBC example. How do I know they won't be using the .mobi domain? Well because they already have mobile content on their existing website for crying out loud! Why would they duplicate what already exists? To waste money?

Come back to reality some of you. .mobi doesn't create mobile content. Demand via the market does, and it's already been proven that you don't need .mobi to meet that market demand. Why does it bother some of you to hear the obvious?

Geez - if you can't take criticism you should just lock yourselves away. The world of commerce is not a giant love-in where everybody agrees with your viewpoint or idea of what is what.

As for neobodhi's wrong assertion - I own three mobi domains. I've even posted a thread looking for more. I take exception to people saying wild fanciful things - like "However, if the .mobi does become the default mobile browser domain," - when there is zero evidence to support that assertion. I know that yet I will still buy/hold and develop a few .mobi domains.

.mobi has become an over-hyped product that will in my estimation make the few that flip early lots of money, and those that don't wish they did. The fact is technology is moving faster than people developing .mobi domains. Mobiles by this time next year will be reading standard html output as the author intended it making special coding unnecessary. That doesn't mean mobi becomes obsolete, it just lumps it in with every other tld more than it is now. Those with good keywords and in demand products/services will do fine - all these non-mobile related domains will not.

In two years we can look back and see who is right and who was wrong. Until then, not everyone is here to jump up and down at the mere mention of .mobi.

Why would you say, "In two years we can look back and see who is right and who is wrong?" No one is right or wrong here. It's just an extension. Jeez, if it fails it fails. If it suceeds then it suceeds. Just because people supporting it think it will be a success doesn't mean they were wrong for believeing that. I'm sure people are having fun just riding on the wave of optimism, or skepticism. This isn't a war.


Also, if you've read my posts I've said on many different occasions that Mobi could very well possibly fail. You are right, there is no need for another extension. Every .com can simply detect a mobile user and redirect them to a mobile version of the site.

I see that, many believers see that aswell. Most Mobi believers try not to worry themselves about why the extension is going to fail. I don't know very many Mobi backers that are making posts on this form that say "why my mobi names are stupid and this extension is worthless." That isn't being very optimistic.

Let's all just have some fun here. If Mobi fails then it fails. As long as you didn't risk money you needed on it then be happy.

It's like gambling, it's fun even if you know you are losing money. Except with mobi the odds are in favor of you gaining that money back

Anyway, whitebark. I'm glad to see that you are interested in Mobi at least a little bit.

 

[snoop]

Why would you say, "In two years we can look back and see who is right and who is wrong?" No one is right or wrong here. It's just an extension. Jeez, if it fails it fails. If it suceeds then it suceeds. Just because people supporting it think it will be a success doesn't mean they were wrong for believeing that. I'm sure people are having fun just riding on the wave of optimism, or skepticism. This isn't a war.

Obviously some will be right and others wrong about this extension.