Good Domain Registar that don't support SOPA?

[Ruriko]

What is a good & cheap domain registrar that don't support SOPA?

 

[iowadawg]

SOPA is so dead!
Where you been?

Namecheap is my registrar of choice.

 

[lothos]

internet.bs

 

[Kate]

Sopa is not dead, it's already coming back in a different name and worse.
Don't think I would recommend Internet.bs, do some research.
Namecheap is still under the Enom umbrella, which isn't a good thing either.

 

[lothos]

Don't think I would recommend Internet.bs, do some research.

I've done research, what specifically don't you like about them?

 

[Kate]

Long report: http://www.legitscript.com/download/LegitScript_Report_on_Internet-bs_(Large).pdf
Yeah, it comes from LegitScript.
Internet.bs doesn't look like a solid registrar.

 

[RazorNF]

I've never used Internet.bs before, but for what its worth, here's their response to the LegitScript findings

http://www.internetbs.net/en/faq/co...ois-data-and-in-breach-of-icann-policies.html

 

[lothos]

Long report: http://www.legitscript.com/download/LegitScript_Report_on_Internet-bs_(Large).pdf
Yeah, it comes from LegitScript.
Internet.bs doesn't look like a solid registrar.

InternetBS specified in replies to LegitScript that as long as the business was legal and didn't violate Bahamas law then they didn't have a problem with it.

US Law is not world law. LegitScript isn't law enforcement.

I really don't see the problem here. Domains should not be suspended or deleted without due process of law.

 

[RazorNF]

It would be great if that were true....

But as we know from domain seizures in the past few years, the US trumps all (with regards to .com) because Verisign is in the US.

 

[lothos]

It would be great if that were true....

But as we know from domain seizures in the past few years, the US trumps all (with regards to .com) because Verisign is in the US.

sure, and due process was followed when a judge signed the order to seize the domains. Some of the seizures were challenged in a court of law, and a few of the domains were given back.

 

[Kate]

US Law is not world law. LegitScript isn't law enforcement.

I really don't see the problem here. Domains should not be suspended or deleted without due process of law.

Right. The issue at stake was Internet.bs's perceived eagerness to provide registrations services for a questionable or downright illegal business, regardless of jurisdiction.

Registrars are private companies, so they are under no obligation to take your business. They can and they do refuse customers, they also close down problematic accounts (if you get too many DMCA complaints losing UDRPs etc).
Now other businesses have different practices. Let's consider webhosts for example. Some are lenient on spam, some have zero tolerance. Some will shut down adult or political sites, others might turn a blind eye on child porn.
Estdomains was crime-friendly too.

Internet.bs looks like a fly by night company that is behaving irresponsibly and taking their business (and legal exposure) very lightly.

The second issue is that the registrar seems to exist on paper mainly. It doesn't have a manned location. I know that in this day and age many businesses are run from home or remotely. So I'm not saying this is a problem, but when you are dealing with a bank you like the idea that you can come visit them unannounced and there will be somebody on site to open the door. Why not expect the same from a registrar where you keep valuable digital assets.

Back to topic: scratch beneath the surface and beyond SOPA credentials :gl:

 

[lothos]

Right. The issue at stake was Internet.bs's perceived eagerness to provide registrations services for a questionable or downright illegal business, regardless of jurisdiction.

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Internet.bs looks like a fly by night company that is behaving irresponsibly and taking their business (and legal exposure) very lightly.

The internet.bs reply specifically said if it was legal where the customer was and didn't break Bahamas law then it was perfectly fine.

I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that they're shady.