discuss Future of new gTLDs in next 5 years.

[Dmytros]

Hello! Some time I am investing in gTLD domains, the reason - I see future in them. People in todays reality want to become more individual and personalized.

I cannot understand domainers investing in gTLDs and then saying "that's crap", "read my lips, gTLD are D.E.A.D", and etc.

What are you doing investing in names like zxzxzx.life or unclebobsmith.catering? This have no sence, if you are trying to fool someone, you are fooling only yourself.

One of the reasons of developing gTLD is to stop market speculations. Now anyone should have name he always dreamed for! BUT, there is also the names which are really unique, names prices on .shop, like example, for 150.000$

Simply - real.life, street.fashion, ideal.menu, winter.clothing, easy.money, etc. There is such names in ANY extension, and believe me, they COST their renewal fees...

And now, how do you think, what are the perspectives of such gTLDs? How many years we need to make generic gTLDs fully implemented in virtual life of any person in this world? How many gTLD auctions should rise before that?

That's a question like when Bitcoin will cost 10.000$ or when robots should be in any house

Thanks!

 

[Kate]

Answer: look at the past 3 years.

 

[garptrader]

Even before new TLDs one could have argued there was an oversupply of aftermarket domain names. 98-99% of industry inventory did not sell in a typical year. Now we have another 22-25 million aftermarket domains. Industry turnover may actually be under 1% now. Experienced domainers generally consider TLDs like .biz, .info, .mobi to be undesirable TLDs for investment. .Biz has two million registrations, .Mobi more than 600k registrations and .Info more than 5 million registrations. Yet of the more than one thousand new TLDs, after three years fewer than 30 even have 100k registrations. Only ten have more than 500k registrations. Only .XYZ has more registrations than .Info and most of those are due to cheap promos. Registrations are just a stat as what really matters is mindshare - how often do people see that TLD in usage for sites they actually visit. How often do you buy something from a ..Link or .Online website? Do you view .Video websites or Youtube.com? Do you buy from Amazon.com or something.shop?

New tlds offer low-budget buyers options. However, just like .Net, .CO, .TV, .ME, .Biz, making money from investments in these new extensions is going to be a lot more difficult than merely registering them. There needs to be a massive shift in sentiment toward aftermarket domain names as tools for promoting business products and services. Currently domain investors are viewed as parasites, squatters, online scammers. Until that changes, new TLD investments will be challenging for most. Of course there will be the occasional lottery winner who will be hailed as proof that nTLDs are doing fine. But do you buy lottery tickets based on the winning numbers from last week?

 

[deez007]

Oh yippee....another thread on the same topic with the same arguments by the same people with the same outcome... some like nGLTD's, some don't like nGTLD's - build a bridge and get over it already folks.

 

[Fancy.domains]

I have had a good 3 years with my new gTLDs. I have sold about 100 of them.

I have no idea about the coming years, but if I should predict something, I think it will be ok. Maybe even better than ok.

Edit: I have actually got three offers the last eight days. Two were high $xxx and one were a low $xxxx. But I wanted a little more on each of them. I am still negotiating on one of them.

 

[wwwweb]

Actually if people really want to open their eyes, the answer has been infront of them for a while.

Take .name, .biz, .us, .info, .co, .mobi they are not setting any records, they are struggling. They have not kept on par with .com, past few years .com has leaped ahead.

I am seeing more businesses go with PlumbingAndHeatingPhoenix.com, instead of PlumbingAndHeating.net, their preferred method is to add some localization specific to them, and end with a .com, rather then the shorter .net for the most part.

You can analyze whatever you want, I don't think a single person has a clue today, but given what we have seen in the past, no contest.

I bought smile (dot) mobi on the forum today for $7 keyword SMILE for $7 in 2007 this name would have sold for $10K, today $7.

 

[hullswingerscom]

guy who sold a .shop for $10,000 seems happy enough

 

[deez007]

what does .tech make better than .tv?

Truth is .tv is better and it is still not very successful. It is also better than media. Wait 20 years and the best TLDs will be as popular as .tv.

.xxx is great. Adult is the largest niche on the net. .xxx is very simple to remember, it is short. A great extension. In theory. In practice it is not successful.

you can dream, hope and fantasize but the facts will not change.

if you think .tech will make it and .tv not and if you think .global will take off because it is much better than .xxx then think again.

Why are you wasting your time with domaining? With your crystal ball that tells the future or your advanced super-hero skills that allow you speculate accurately what markets will do, you should be trading in high yield stocks and commodities or making billions with forex.

Oh wait?... is it because:

1.) You do not have a magic crystal ball that tells the future?

2.) Domaining much like the stock market is a smoke and mirrors game, the so called experts and traders have NO CLUE whats really going to happen, all they can do is speculate based on historic data. When a new commodity is introduced into the marketplace, that does not have sufficient historical sales data to analyze, trying to use other commodities historic sales data as a comparison to the new commodities current trajectory or using only recent data to try and determine the future value of the commodity is downright stupidity.

"you can dream, hope and fantasize but the facts will not change."

The only FACTS about domaining is that there are NO facts, all the data we get is manipulated and inaccurate. You can not account for "emotional / sentimental" purchases where people would pay $xxxx for a domain bcos it has sentimental value to them but worthless to the rest of us, you can not account for the MASSIVE amount of fake sales going through, you can not account for the MASSIVE amount of sales that are going through by people who are using domains to legally launder money out of their respective countries. So this so called factual data you rely so heavily on, is in fact...NOT FACTUAL!

 

[Kate]

The thread title is: Future of new gTLDs in next 5 years.
Why not talk about the last 3 years ? When people are not satisfied with the present, they keep moving the goalposts.
While it's hard to predict the future, those who have studied the past and observe the present are bound to make better predictions than those who ignore the past and the present completely (they sure know better).

Future of new gTLDs in next 5 years ?
.com and ccTLDs going strong.
New gTLDs stagnating.
Business as usual.

This is my prediction. See you in five years.

 

[dumindu89]

OP has the correct view about new TLDs. Don't get caught to the people who are predicting that new gTLDs are total crap and they are failing. Most of such people own a portfolio of crappy useless .COMs and they want to show that their crappy .COM portfolio worth than new TLDs.

Those people are comparing more than 25 years old strong person with less than 5 years old babies which is ridiculous.

If you have nice keyword domains or dictionary word domains with new extensions be positive and let them to grow and add value. However, the pricing of the new TLDs is a key concern and you have to manage that.

Cheers

 

[Impaler The Vlad]

The new gTLDs are worthless in the global market. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. People believe what they wish to.

The new extensions are like playing in Vegas. The casinos(registries) make money off of those(domainers) that are trying to find their fortune. How do you think those billion dollar casinos get paid for? Off the backs of all the losers which are 99%. Once and a while someone gets lucky and everyone again starts dumping more money. Keep dreaming.

As long as you are having fun getting parted from your money, who am I to complain. It's your money. Just don't complain when you realized you spent a fortune trying to find one.

 

[Kate]

One of the big hurdles is to overcome confusion. If you have to advertise your URLs, especially on TV where exposure time is short, you have to make sure watchers will remember the URL correctly.
If the URL is not prefixed with http:// and/or www. many people will not realize it is a URL but think it is a stylized slogan à la make.believe (Sony).

 

[amirp]

more internet users= bigger market
end of the story

 

[Canadian]

Oh yippee....another thread on the same topic with the same arguments by the same people with the same outcome...

It's constantly the same NP members that hijack new gTLD threads.
Sometimes I wonder if there's a connection between their narrow minded new gTLD logic and being a Left-Winger ?

 

[deez007]

that is why the new TLDs are so toxic. you can't use them for marketing because people don't recognize them as domains and get confused. It does not matter how pretty your URL looks and how great the combination is. If you have sex.shop and 50% of your potential clients don't figure out that it is a domain you are in trouble and should go with a worse .com combo (e.g thesexshop.com)

Yes, off course cos nothing will change, people don't adapt to change and will remain stagnant in their thinking as technology advances, right?

That's why people are unable to use touchscreens and are still looking for buttons on their phones, right? Cos people don't adapt to change at all?

Lol.... Narrow-mindedness and tunnel vision is toxic not new TLD's.

 

[Kate]

But do you buy lottery tickets based on the winning numbers from last week?

ahah

I bought smile (dot) mobi on the forum today for $7 keyword SMILE for $7 in 2007 this name would have sold for $10K, today $7.

In .mobi names like hotel etc have dropped. They were worth 6 figures back in the hype days.
.mobi is the most brutal example of how the value of domain names can depreciate over time.
When a TLD was released in the past, there was excitement, but they quickly became old news. You had to flip them immediately and not wait. .asia is another example.

I say 'was' because in the past, extensions were released one by one and not often, like one per year. So when that happened, it was a noteworthy event. Nowadays new extensions are released every week. It's not even newsworthy anymore.
What's worse is that nobody has been waiting for them. Consumers are indifferent.
Even retired extensions are not newsworthy

 

[Kuffy]

If we ignore vanity names, the value of a name seems to be based on the potential traffic it can generate. With fewer surfers using direct navigation, the name is becoming less important for users who use Google for navigation. In fact Chrome doesn't seem to differentiate between it's search box and direct navigation.

I think the name is becoming important for surfers using voice input, and I haven't experimented with the results of .com alternatives in this area, The other important factor is viral traffic. Surfers hearing the name in a video clip, or discussing it with friends,

 

[HotKey]

How many years we need to make generic gTLDs fully implemented in virtual life of any person in this world? How many gTLD auctions should rise before that?

As many years years as it takes, if you're commited. Just don't go broke getting there. Follow the K.I.S.S rule: Keep It Simple Stupid. Right now there is much supply, low demand. It's really the golden age of building a solid portfolio of killer names. If the next 5 years remains a buyers market, better to tone, trim and be as picky as possible.

 

[Kate]

If we ignore vanity names, the value of a name seems to be based on the potential traffic it can generate.

The real value is branding.

 

[JB Lions]

Joined - Jan 3, 2017
"Gtlds's will surely be a boom in the coming years. it may even replace .com's and .net's. giving the freedom to choose domain names will surely be a gain."

Haven't checked in awhile, overall numbers dropped over 330,000 last couple of weeks.

Looks like top 3 are dropping, xyz, win, top. Summer might be brutal.

https://ntldstats.com/tld

 

[Sentry.MBA]

New people usually do.

Yeah, but I mean from a company point of view I would want something snappy that fits my criteria of work that is unique and different from the rest.

So for example.

Snappyclothing.com

or

Snappy.clothing

I would go for the second option as its shorter and unique rather than having the longer version. It also stands for what I would want it to.

 

[dordomai]

its just matter of time, but keep in mind there, there are only 40% of world population using internet , more internet users= more domains and website , so eventually more people will use alternative
(new extensions)

no. they will just use more .com

 

[Kate]

its just matter of time, but keep in mind there, there are only 40% of world population using internet , more internet users= more domains and website , so eventually more people will use alternative
(new extensions)

The vast majority of people don't need or want a domain, you don't need a domain to use the Internet. You usually need one for a business or it can be for a personal blog too, but again the majority of people won't buy a domain.
It's not like the pool of potential domain buyers is 3 billion people. It's much less than that. Of those, only a few people will buy a domain on the aftermarket.

no. they will just use more .com

And ccTLDs of course

 

[168]

.tv, .xxx, .travel, .asia, .info, .jobs are excellent extensions.

.tv has 20 years mindshare.

Ah, therein lies the problem,
You think they are "excellent"
The market does not.

Niche extensions will never gain appreciable market share. Hellooo.

Extensions like .Media/.Global/.Tech/.Shop are all ubiquitous across all Niche markets. BIG DIFFERENCE in marketability.

Cheers

 

[dordomai]

Ah, therein lies the problem,
You think they are "excellent"
The market does not.

Niche extensions will never gain appreciable market share. Hellooo.

Extensions like .Media/.Global/.Tech/.Shop are all ubiquitous across all Niche markets. BIG DIFFERENCE in marketability.

Cheers

what does make .tech better than .tv?

Truth is .tv is better and it is still not very successful. It is also better than .media. Wait 20 years and the best TLDs will be as popular as .tv.

.xxx is great. Adult is the largest niche on the net. .xxx is very simple to remember, it is short. A great extension. In theory. In practice it is not successful.

you can dream, hope and fantasize but the facts will not change.

if you think .tech will make it and .tv not and if you think .global will take off because it is much better than .xxx then think again.

.xxx, .tv and .asia have NOT done too well and yours will do even worse because of the much larger supply that is available now.

There is and will be more individuals using domains.

Individuals with personal blogs paying you low $xxx for your premiums.

The number of businesses will continue to grow and more will be online.

In the US the highest growth rates are already behind us. Sure some substantial growth will happen but I wouldn't expect miracles. It is not 2003 anymore.

Keep in mind that the nGTLDs are mostly English language extensions.

assume 50 million new firm births per year. Or about 137,000 per day
assuming a small fraction 10% will be online.
5+ million possible domain sales per year.
Legacy
cc's
New
If equally divided +/-1,667,00 per category.
If only 1% goes to New "G"s that's 50k domains

the number of yesterday domain sales that were bigger than $500 as reported on Namebio is 67. That is 24455 each year.