domain Estibot.com says: this domain is worth $964,676 !

[jaro]

A couple of weeks ago I have registered RateOf.com that has been appraised by EstiBot.com as $330,000. Of course, everybody appraised it as "Reg Fee". This thread is here.
After a couple of days I have sold it for $62 on Bazaar

Now I have registered:
SearchOf.net

Information from EstiBot.com:
Domain SearchOf.net
Keywords search of
Frequency 70,800,000
Anchor Text 375,000
Title 957,000
Searches/mo 3487509
EstiBot Valuation USD 964,676


I know that It's worth much much less, but anyway, I couldn't resist

In your opinion what is the real value of this domain?

BTW. Josh1, thanks a lot for EstiBot. This is REALLY great tool and in 99,9 % of cases it places domain values in the right ballpark.

 

[rockaction]

Leapfish.com says $48

 

[angisson]

you gotta be kidding me? NONE of those are good.. thats like asking a blind person how good you look......

they are just going to give you some bullsh!t answer, IMHO :blink:

 

[Alex]

Searchof.net .. hmm not really good... I would say reg fee, but hope that you will sell it for more.

Alex

 

[loscocco]

ESTIBOTS.COM is available for reg fee

 

[Skinny]

its worth reg fee.

Skinny

 

[sierra]

Estibot is probably the ONLY worthwhile and accurate auto appraisal though - and as you know it's in beta.x stage still and isn't perfect - but it's a good guide.

However using Estibots own guidelines for a domain like yours (no capitalisation) - this is what it spurts out:

searchof.net
Keywords searchof
Frequency 16,500
Anchor Text 6,910
Title 52
Searches/mo 0
EstiBot Valuation Reg Fee

 

[GreenGambler]

Ha.. I just used the EstiBot checker.. I've never been there before.

Apparently I have some pretty high dollar DNs

Nice!

I can't see SearchOf.net being worth much more than $50 if that.

Good Luck

 

[xman]

Information from EstiBot.com:
Domain SearchOf.net
Keywords search of
Frequency 70,800,000
Anchor Text 375,000
Title 957,000
Searches/mo 3487509
EstiBot Valuation USD 964,676

I would quit my job and retired. That appraisal is probably a reseller value. You could probably find an end user that would pay more than $1M. :D

 

[Len]

I think the initial search was done incorrectly. The word "Of" should not have been capitalized as it is not a keyword that would be searched by search engine spiders.
I agree with Sierra's valuation of reg fee.

 

[Chapel]

Estibot isnt perfect but it's better then the rest imo. Just keep an eye on the

Searches/mo 3487509

But take it with a grain of salt. Cause you can type in a common phrase that a lot people use in their searches the value will be high. Use your head when registering those high value (auto appraised) domains. Ask yourself does this make sense?

Just my 2 cents.

 

[cpamtm]

MediaAnd.com

Most of my domains appraised between reg fee and $11K except this one:

Domain MediaAnd.com
Keywords media and
Frequency 121,000,000
Anchor Text 291,000
Title 692,000
Searches/mo 404135
EstiBot Valuation USD 1,666,968

Seems a little high...

 

[BidNo]

Estibot isnt perfect but it's better then the rest imo. Just keep an eye on the

Searches/mo 3487509

But take it with a grain of salt. Cause you can type in a common phrase that a lot people use in their searches the value will be high. Use your head when registering those high value (auto appraised) domains. Ask yourself does this make sense?

Just my 2 cents.

Is a NamePro member behind the Estibot project? (For no particular reason than I don't know it's roots.)

 

[StudioWorks]

Is a NamePro member behind the Estibot project? (For no particular reason than I don't know it's roots.)

Yes, a namepros member.

Without development.. it's not worth more than reg fee..

 

[estibot.com]

Hi-

Thanks for testing EstiBot

It's not to be taken too literally especially in this Beta test phase. Please do remember it's in Beta and thanks to NamePros member participation I've managed to make it better.

I've released an update today, and this well known bug that is apparent in this thread has been now taken care of, at least for the most part. Domains such as these were overvaluated because it was hard for the algorithm to differentiate whether a truly good name is in question or not. The main problem is the very rudimentary keyword research tools that are available.

The algorithm is now smarter and it can critically look at whether the high keyword results are in fact predictive of domain name value or not.

This is much thanks to you who have tested the original beta and provided this sort of feedback. Otherwise I would not have known of this problem.

Unfortunately the names mentioned in this thread seem to have been downgraded quite a bit in the v2.0 beta version:

RateOf.com -- USD 61 <--- this might be a nice name for a domain market analysis site
SearchOf.net -- USD 72
MediaAnd.com -- USD 94

Please remember that if you get an obviously erroneous valuation, that's probably just what it is and please let me know so I can fix it! I cannot possibly fix individual domains but I try to program the algo so that it can correct its own errors in the future!

Thanks!
Josh

 

[jaro]

Thanks Josh1 for clarifying the things and for constant improving of this superb appraisal service!
Thanks also for all of you who responded to my post.

Well, $72 for SearchOf.net is not that bad

 

[cybertonic]

I just discovered this Estibot.

I think it's similar to DomainScore.com the 2 main differences I see are:

- At Estibot.com you need to indicate yourself how to slice the domain in terms (using a upper case for the first letter of each word) while this is done automatically at DomainScore.com
- Estibot.com gives an appraisal value while DomainScore only an exponential number ranging from 0 (worst) to 1,000 (best) sumarizing domain metrics (readability, term frequency and search popularity).

The appraisal result for SearchOf.net was certainly a bug, by the way it look likes it has been fixed.

Because mainly based on very similar metrics both should give very similar results if we compare domains valuated by both systems.

Look likes they are still working on it. I wish them good luck.

...

 

[estibot.com]

Thanks Cybertonic, I have always used and liked DomainScore.com and I wish I had your skills to make the website such a functional and good looking site.

I am a big fan of domainscore, although my system takes a somewhat different approach in using a larger number of metrics. This, along with the users entry of capitalized keywords enables appraising of IDN, multilingual and digital (numeric) domains as well, which might be difficult for an automatic keyword separator to do.

I would say that for English domains that are purely keyword names, DomainScore would be my choice for appraising. EstiBot can give you a second opinion on those names, and also some additional info on some other types of names. I think it's good to run domains through the best appraisal systems and also absolutely to have them appraised here at NamePros to get that human domainer brain input, which is often the most valuable in the end.

Best of luck to you too with your fine suite of domainer tools.

Josh

 

[DNWizardX9]

Thanks Cybertonic, I have always used and liked DomainScore.com and I wish I had your skills to make the website such a functional and good looking site.

I am a big fan of domainscore, although my system takes a somewhat different approach in using a larger number of metrics. This, along with the users entry of capitalized keywords enables appraising of IDN, multilingual and digital (numeric) domains as well, which might be difficult for an automatic keyword separator to do.

I would say that for English domains that are purely keyword names, DomainScore would be my choice for appraising. EstiBot can give you a second opinion on those names, and also some additional info on some other types of names. I think it's good to run domains through the best appraisal systems and also absolutely to have them appraised here at NamePros to get that human domainer brain input, which is often the most valuable in the end.

Best of luck to you too with your fine suite of domainer tools.

Josh

How do you expect to "appraise" IDN when you'll need to know another language to do so?

 

[estibot.com]

How do you expect to "appraise" IDN when you'll need to know another language to do so?

General usage of the term "IDN domain" is not limited to foreign language domain, it encompasses all domain names with non-ASCII characters. But I do agree that the vast majority of these domains are non-English language domains. Same rules apply for thoroughly evaluating a domain name, whether in English or any other language: Knowledge of the language is good, but a complete evaluation requires also understanding of the local culture and market-specific knowledge. Of course, automatic appraisal programs cannot do that.

As emphasized before, EstiBot is intended to be used as one tool in the process of critical human appraisal of a domain name. It can provide keyword data and a ballpark value estimate as a reference or a starting point.

Estibot can do that for IDN domains: they are simply run through the same routine, evaluating monthly searches, term frequency, backlinks, previous sales and so on.

I haven't been able to get Japanese/Chinese/Russian/Arabic characters to work.
[EDIT: Might work if the mySQL database was collated as unicode, I don't know how to do that for an existing DB though, anyone?]

Here are some examples of recent IDN sales compared to EstiBot appraisals:
Köln.at 840 USD 190
librería.org 500 USD 817
könig.com 2,140 USD 15,413
ferienunterkünfte.de 670 USD 70
streichhölzer.com 2,297 USD 1,152
führerschein.info 1,970 USD 159
câble.com 3,070 USD 13,292
schönezähne.com 1,171 USD 759

This is proof of concept that auto-appraising IDN domains is quite possible.

A more important challenge is matching the domain name language to the ccTLD, which would enable me to give proper weight to a matching domain name - ccTLD combination. I'm working on that.

As always, there is room for improvement and I welcome all suggestions during this BETA test phase.

Cheers
Josh