Epik Promotion

[Rob Monster]

The price increases are going to continue -- 7% per year from Verisign. That is actually still pretty good value for non-trash domains. It may also improve the expiry streams as some registrars use this as a pretext for price increases. At this time, Epik has no plan to raise prices for .COM.

Two things as tactical points:

1. Forever domains at Epik are $399 but we can do bulk deals for less.

2. For bulk transfers we can also do deals, e.g. we have done $6.99 promos and happy hours in the past. If folks want that, we'll see what we can do.

The Versign price increase is not good news. Epik will do its part to try to soften the blow!

 

[Asset]

Dynadot Offices:
San Mateo (hq)
Toronto
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Regarding Offices - It's 21st century, remote.

Regards

Thanks @Lox! Then I only don't trust Epik anymore... if indeed they do not have a physical address/location and use a UPS storefront/mailbox. That's "epically" ironic.

 

[Grilled]

WOW! Thanks @Grilled now I don't trust Epik or Dynadot at all anymore.

Sorry, that wasn't my intent.

Are you now saying you now trust GoDaddy as your asset holder over than Epik and Dynadot?

Until proven otherwise (eg GD cleans up the auction renewal unfairness and stops acting like its too big to care), or until a GD CEO comes to namePros, like Paul Han or @Rob Monster, I trust Epik/Dynadot any day of the week over GoDaddy, when it comes to customer service, safeguarding, and security.

If GoDaddy doesn't change their ways soon, they're quickly on their way to becoming the next NetSol. An outdated dinosaur that cares more about profits, and less about accessible quality customer service, security, or innovation. #AmansLegacy

 

[Asset]

Are you now saying you now trust GoDaddy as your asset holder over than Epik and Dynadot?

I don't trust any of them, after the Brent Oxley thingy... NameCheap is my preferred right now, until proven otherwise too... I moved most of my GD domains after that.

 

[Rob Monster]

Pretty sure he was referring to the margins on the forever stuff...aka $399 upfront, not standard domain renewals.

Anyone can renew their own .COM for (10) years right now for say $90. So you are paying an extra $300+ for the promise that Epik will renew the domain after that point, a decade from now.

The financial interest for Epik is obvious.

How many decades will it take for that to make financial sense to the buyer?

Brad

And what if that $399 domain name also came with a $10K warranty protection for lifetime, e.g. safeguarding against loss due to UDRP or domain theft? You know we launched this product with help of Bill Hartzer and some very capable developers: https://dnprotect.com/

 

[Asset]

That situation also turned me on to NameCheap. + @tamar seems like a responsive rockstar!

Any idea how NameCheap plans to handle the verisign price increase?

NameCheap even lets you know when someone logs into your account and gives you the IP Address, which is cool! Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair. And the CEO does not spam NP lol

 

[Lox]

Thanks @Lox! Then I only don't trust Epik anymore...

Trust or $ insurance is not the issue w Epik, the semi-PRs and a few of "rebellion" moves that framed the Epik company was / is an ongoing issue, but that can be changed anytime - tomorrow.

Regards

 

[Asset]

a few of "rebellion" moves that framed the Epik - company was / is an ongoing issue

Please enlighten us about that... who, what and how/where?

 

[bmugford]

And what if that $399 domain name also came with a $10K warranty protection for lifetime, e.g. safeguarding against loss due to UDRP or domain theft? You know we launched this product with help of Bill Hartzer and some very capable developers: https://dnprotect.com/

You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread, as was Name Liquidate.

Brad

 

[Asset]

You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread.
As was Name Liquidate.

Brad

If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

 

[Grilled]

NameCheap even lets you know when someone logs into your account and gives you the IP Address, which is cool! Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair. And the CEO does not spam NP lol

Wow!! That's huge!

While reverse engineering the night.com hack, that info would have been huge to have accessible. Meanwhile, GoDaddy abuse reporting page <https://www.godaddy.com/help/reporting-abuse-27154> has no option to report a compromised account, besides hoping their generic [email protected] email works. And even then, as I've yet to hear of (not saying it hasn't happened) a GoDaddy customer receiving IP logs of logins, after reporting an account breach without subpoena/court order. I hope I'm wrong here, but if the Oxley situation taught us nothing, GoDaddy is too big to be erroneously be held liable, and they require a subpoena/court order for just about anything, even if not legally required.

Their support team is out of this world, and their prices are fair.

I hate to say I base my registrars on whether or not I can reach a namePros representative should anything go wrong, but it's where I'm most comfortable. I had assumed since namecheap rep @tamar doesn't chime in as much as other registrar reps that namecheap wasn't as reachable on nP as other registrars, nonetheless, when I sent her a DM, she responded within 4 minutes. Likely an anomaly, and was directed to the proper department, I just felt it necessary to share, that nameCheap does have a nP rep who is responsive.

Thus, I foresee myself following the Oxley playbook and moving many domains to NameCheap this year.

And the CEO does not spam NP lol

We all have our own definition of spam. @Rob Monster has his. Hawaiians have theirs. And I have mine.

I'm OK with @Rob Monster nP spam, it's nowhere near what it used to be. Hawaiian canned spam, sure, whatever floats your boat. But I draw the line at Epik hiring an attack dog as Epik senior VP of Qommunications, just to leverage/manipulate/submerge the Epik client base with unsolicited PSYOP like political charged messaging. #KeepSnarkyOnALease #FireDavis #Rehire@Slanted

 

[bmugford]

If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

I agree.

He has had multiple posts in the past removed and moved for the same self-promotional reasons.

He just can't seem to help himself.

Every thread seems to turn into an advertisement for Epik, no matter how irrelevant to the actual discussion.

Brad

 

[Grilled]

You need to quit the blatant self-promotional spam. This is irrelevant to the subject of this thread

If nobody @NamePros stops him, why would he? Free advertisement...

nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? Because if not, we're equally to blame.

I reported his last post here as that was clearly off topic, hypothetical, and promotional.

 

[bmugford]

nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? I did.

I will. You have to draw the line somewhere.

While I consider the forever registration idea stupid and unsustainable for a number of reasons that I already outlined, it at least has a peripheral relationship to .COM renewals.

The stuff with Name Liquidate was bad enough. This is just self-promotional. It is not relevant to the discussion.

Brad

 

[robs01]

May I suggest everyone go back to the third post in this thread (which was Rob's first post) and re-read it.

It was entirely on topic and offered a brief explanation (future rises and percentage) and multiple solutions to the problem of .com prices going up. It only went crazy when people jumped on him and went crazy with their opinions of how bad they think one of the solutions is. Disagree or not, it should have been left alone and other solutions/experiences provided by others.

Just my observation.

 

[bmugford]

May I suggest everyone go back to the third post in this thread (which was Rob's first post) and re-read it.

It was entirely on topic and offered a brief explanation (future rises and percentage) and multiple solutions to the problem of .com prices going up. It only went crazy when people jumped on him and went crazy with their opinions of how bad they think one of the solutions is. Disagree or not, it should have been left alone and other solutions/experiences provided by others.

Just my observation.

Nope. If Rob wants to post something in the discussion, others are allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on it. The discussion forum is not here for people to just push products or services without questions, comments, thoughts, opinions, etc.

Brad

 

[Grilled]

This is just self-promotional. It is not relevant to the discussion

Agree. In my report, besides citing off-topic, I mentioned members already letting him know of the promotional issue, and at this point, it seemed like it evolved from just being promotional, to a conscious and an unmistakable level of trolling that not only disrupts the flow of conversation, but has led to folks leaving namePros.

Just because somebody here may have an Ivy League education, it doesn't mean that those of us who don't have such an education are mindless idiots solely here for the advertising disposal of somebody who may have an Ivy League education. If anything, it means the ivy league educated individual(s) here should stop playing dumb, move on from his or her stupid antics, and respect the forum accordingly.

If that individual won't police themselves, and if nP mods are restricted to their ToS, then the community needs to step up. Report off topic posts as protocol #1. Or get creative. If any epik individuals want to continue trolling, just troll back, and remind them of the time they read their customer landing page inquiry, then published it on twitter citing it as a complaint received, when in actuality epik got trolled. Essentially epik accepts nazi content, but draws the line at dolphins.

https://archive.li/qqPRe

The hopes being, if epik individuals have their off topic promotional posts greeted with the the off topic archive.li/qqPRE link / image, maybe enough chaos will ensue, to where epik <Dolphin H. Fucker> finally gets the hint, and stops the promotional madness.

 

[Asset]

nP also largely relies on community moderation. Did either of you report @Rob Monster 's "And what if that $399 domain name" post? Because if not, we're equally to blame.

I reported his last post here as that was clearly off topic, hypothetical, and promotional.

I reported him too, since yesterday for the NameLiquidate post and more, but no response yet.

 

[robs01]

Nope. If Rob wants to post something in the discussion, others are allowed to share their thoughts and opinions on it. The discussion forum is not here for people to just push products or services without questions, comments, thoughts, opinions, etc.

Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?

My observation is that you like "Rob" so much you even created a new account called "robs" and you really like Epik so much with all your posts in other threads defending Epik... maybe just an epic coincidence? I may be wrong, but just an observation.

I have the same first name as the Epik CEO. Gosh, how fraudulent of both of us, must be something fishy going on. There's no way there could ever be another Rob somewhere in the world, and statistically near impossible that I also am interested in domains. As for me having some domains at Epik... well there's the smoking gun right there.

 

[bmugford]

Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?

Which part of talking about the forever regs required Rob to promote Name Liquidate or DN Protect? I am confused.

He brought both up. They were both irrelevant to the discussion.

Brad

 

[Asset]

Sure you're all allowed to share your thoughts and opinions on it - but you're all blaming Rob for filling up this thread with your thoughts and opinions, and hence his need to respond, calling it blatant self promotion. !?!?!?!?



I have the same first name as the Epik CEO. Gosh, how fraudulent of both of us, must be something fishy going on. There's no way there could ever be another Rob somewhere in the world, and statistically near impossible that I also am interested in domains. As for me having some domains at Epik... well there's the smoking gun right there.

But I said it was justttt an observation