.tv Dubs.tv

[yoyosean]

what do you guys think, just picked this up today, for you old timers out there, dubs is a common slang word used to represent wheels or rims that are larger than 20". If interested pm me.

thanks.

 

[Abdulla]

great pick, but the question is, will there be any legal issues about it? i would guess 'DUB' is a trademark...

 

[Dan]

Dubs is a commonly used term and shouldn't have TM problems. :imho:

 

[mckennaronnie]

Great Name i think, ideal for the younger crowd.

I think "Dubs" works well for both the "hip Hop" crowd or for those who are into Car modding and all the related stuff.

I like it, nice short & catchy name which is mentioned commonly on Tv, in music and by celebrities.

If i had any money left then i might make you an offer for this but after buying for too many .tv's then im broke!

Good Luck

Mckennaronnie

 

[yoyosean]

thanks for the posts

looking for a buyer as my focus is more .mobi than .tv if i get a good price for dubs.tv i will throw sour.tv in for free. ANYONE???

 

[Abdulla]

so you mean its alright to make a website about cadillacs with a domain name such as caddy.tv ? im no legal expert here..

yoyosean: if i wont have some legal problems, then i might be interested in your dubs.tv

 

[yoyosean]

dubs is a common used term (slang) for wheels, there will be no legal problems. it would be like owning the word wheels

 

[TLDnetworks]

great pick, but the question is, will there be any legal issues about it? i would guess 'DUB' is a trademark...

Looked at it a year ago, but avoided because of the potential. Keep in mind "Confusingly Simliar" is part of the evaluation in the application of TM and domains, so IMO if the site is used in conjunction with wheels, there is a potential...

 

[yoyosean]

there is not a potential if something is used in common as in slang as well as general terms you cannot claim a trademark on that terminology i.e. discount tire, and tire rack cant claim use to the word tire because it is in their tm, nor could anyone claim the right to wheels.com or wheels. anything or wheels, as in the same way as dubs.

 

[antonis12]

for goodness sakes, I am a semi-old fart, but I can still tell you that "dubs" is a generic term, as we generally understand it in domaineering.

as yoyosean is saying, it is like saying he has wheels.tv.

yes, there might be some bizarre circumstance if there was a Dubs TV channel where someone might have a claim, but basically, he should be OK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dub_(wheel)

ps. be careful with Dub magazine, but you have the plural, so again don't really sweat this

 

[TLDnetworks]

there is not a potential if something is used in common as in slang as well as general terms you cannot claim a trademark on that terminology i.e. discount tire, and tire rack cant claim use to the word tire because it is in their tm, nor could anyone claim the right to wheels.com or wheels. anything or wheels, as in the same way as dubs.

I'm not a Trademark/Patent attorney, so I don't know all the finite details. I do converse regularly with one, and do hold a number of trademarks, so I have spent quite a bit of time regarding the issue. Best of luck, maybe you'll have an automatic advertising sponsor. :tu:

DUBS
G & S: LAND VEHICLE PARTS, NAMELY WHEELS.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=qiecqi.2.158

DUB TV
G & S: Entertainment services in the nature of ongoing television programs in the fields of automobiles, automobile-related issues, automotive lifestyles, news, comedy, variety and action
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=qiecqi.2.91

In case you want the full list of related "DUB" TM's
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=qiecqi.2.1

 

[antonis12]

I'm not a Trademark/Patent attorney, so I don't know all the finite details. I do converse regularly with one, and do hold a number of trademarks, so I have spent quite a bit of time regarding the issue. Best of luck, maybe you'll have an automatic advertising sponsor. :tu:

DUBS
G & S: LAND VEHICLE PARTS, NAMELY WHEELS.
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=qiecqi.2.158

DUB TV
G & S: Entertainment services in the nature of ongoing television programs in the fields of automobiles, automobile-related issues, automotive lifestyles, news, comedy, variety and action
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=qiecqi.2.91

In case you want the full list of related "DUB" TM's
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=qiecqi.2.1

westblock, you do not mess around!

the Dub TV is potentially a problem. yoyosean, you want to avoid the fate of Speed.tv so keep your nose clean

 

[TLDnetworks]

westblock, you do not mess around!

the Dub TV is potentially a problem. yoyosean, you want to avoid the fate of Speed.tv so keep your nose clean

Just trying to help out the community - not an attack, not arrogance, just lending a little information where I can since I take away alot from here...

 

[yoyosean]

when there are an over abundance of tm's on one term i do not feel like there is any issues.

thanks for the input

 

[SKG]

when there are an over abundance of tm's on one term i do not feel like there is any issues.

thanks for the input

I am sorry but that should give you more reason to worry, imo. I think you need to relook at the information Westblock has kindly given to you. Case 1 is regarding "Wheels" and almost all the ads on your Sedo parked pages are of "Wheels."

 

[yoyosean]

i disagree, dubs are commonly referred to as wheels, this is a standard phrase for the word dubs, someone cannot trademark a commonly referred to term and use it as their own, whether it is slang or common language, that would be like be tm'ing the word f-ck and anybody using f-ck to display sex or images i would have a tm infringement against.

doesnt work that way. they can tm dub for a magazine, they can tm it for clothes but they cannot tm it for its common used term (wheels) I have already spoken with three tm attorneys regarding this issue and they all seem to agree with me.

http://www.dubs.com/ has been around since 1996 and advertises wheels and rims, are they in tm infringement?

 

[TLDnetworks]

http://www.dubs.com/ has been around since 1996 and advertises wheels and rims, are they in tm infringement?

In a word - YES. Linda Rodman has held the Goods & Services Trademark "Dubs" as related to LAND VEHICLE PARTS, NAMELY WHEELS since 2003 and was first used in commerce January 29, 2003. Because the com parking page has been around since 2006 has no bearing on infringment. It means the Ms. Rodman and her attorney Russell R. Palmer, Jr have choosen not to pursue action. Should she choose action, the com owner is in total infringment of her trademark and at risk of losing a UDRP hearing. If the com owner was using the name relating to fashion, computers, etc anything other than LAND VEHICLE PARTS, NAMELY WHEELS there is no risk UNLESS it is used in a similar or confusingly similar nature as one of the other 183 "dub" tradmarks. I disagree that three qualified TM attorneys would agree with your position, and to get an evaluation the cost would run anywhere from $150-$1000 for review, so you are saying that you have now spent between $450-$3000 to defend you point at Namepros over a $30 domain?

Ignorance and denial are not defenseable. yoyosean, you asked for assistance and advice - you've been given advice as we/I see it.

 

[StoneRoses]

Ignorance and denial are not defenseable. yoyosean, you asked for assistance and advice - you've been given advice as we/I see it.[/QUOTE]

I would tend to agree, the points Westblock has kindly provided,would also be provided by the Company pursing the claim.

My thoughts are as well as the possible TM issue .

The domain is parked and in most cases if it is 50/50 over the tm,this is seen ( rightly or wrongly) as registered in bad faith and will swing the decision in favour of the complainent.
Not withstanding as previously mentioned, the ads on the page are wheels related.
just my opinion,but i would say any potential buyer should be made aware of this,if they do not already know.

Thanks

 

[yoyosean]

i appreciate the input but as mentioned before i completely disagree. if i had antera and i was selling wheels or cragar or something like that it would be completely different imho, i do believe legally that dubs are wheels and not a brandable or tm name for wheels.

no i did not spend money on a tm attorney, one of my good friends is a tm attorney at a major law firm and i asked him about it and he asked his colleagues.

i was not asking for advice i was asking what you thought about the name, now that I know i appreciate it, i guess we will have to wait and see if this is a tm issue, i think i am going to go trademark the word tires for anything tire related and then sue discount tires for trademark infringement : )

JK GL guys i am done with this argument should i get sued i will defend in arbitration vigourously and i do believe i will win.

 

[Argos]

they can tm dub for a magazine, they can tm it for clothes but they cannot tm it for its common used term (wheels) I have already spoken with three tm attorneys regarding this issue and they all seem to agree with me.

I fully agree, it is right.

But Westblock pointed out the "confusingly similar" sensitive case for your name vs. Dubs and DUB TV and he is right too. In case a complainant would want to take the name from you it would be easy for the company owning the TMs to demonstrate your "bad faith" for having registered the name for the purpose of parking, meaning that you benefit from the traffic generated by the name similar to the mark, and for making available for sale with the possible expectation to sell to the mark owner (although you haven't or will never contact them) it would be difficult for you to demonstrate your legimate interest and right for the name. However I do not think you have to worry so far as long as you do not promote the name as related to the automobile industry or via your future site sell automobile items, so relax man. I would much more worry for the guy who owns Dub.tv for sale at Sedo. Think that as the .tv extension is getting more and more popular TM owners will look at this side to protect their name and reinforce their position over the net, so be very cautious when registering a name. Good luck with your name Yoyosean.