question domain prefixes - "E" and "I"

[john_karr]

Hello what do you guys think about domain name prefix e and i? Which one is better e or i?

 

[hawkeye]

I swear to god, I heard a gong go off when I finished reading your post.

Understandable.

Try to appreciate the precpets of creativity

Can't find that word in the English dictionary.

I don't know what the "suffix alphabet" is- I'm pretty sure it's the same thing as the good old fashioned English language alphabet, given that in the context of this discussion, any letter can be a relevant suffix so long as it doesn't interfere with the pronunciation of the word,

So PizzaC isn't 'piz zac'?

and the suffix in question can be branded with any word that happens to begin with that letter.

For example, if I live in the famous pizza town of Chicago and I own "PizzaC.com", do you really- SERIOUSLY- struggle to see the generic brandability value in that? Honestly?

Well, let's see, it means Pizza CHEEZE? or Pizza CINCINNATTI? or Pizza CHEAP?, or again.. - Piz Zac?

Please inform of all premium keywords you have with e, V or I prefixes and let me know how "cheap" you're willing to sell them for.

I was discussing 'suffixs'. And what we did have in i-e's, are long gone now.

I'm perfectly willing to put my money where my mouth is. As far as the "M" prefix, I really don't know of anything special with that, other than you seem to own a few of them and might not want to appear to be making an argument against something you yourself seem to be invested in.

??? I realize you may not be up on this yet, but 'm' is for mobile, and as some are real keyed up on 'm dots' for mobile sites, I, and others, can see not only 'm' coming into play, but because it could be a typo of an 'm dot' site, perhaps even desirable for those who have those names for 'brand protection'.

It has absolutely nothing to do with "typos".

Of course not. Yet look up any 'keywordSUFFIX' name, insuranceG., LoansQ. etc, and 95%, or more, of them are only parked pages, not 'developed' sites.

And I'll probably get more for my eAutoLoans.com than you would for your PizzaC or ChairsW. But... then, maybe not. ..maybe not!

 

[Jaco]

Understandable.

Can't find that word in the English dictionary.

Ahhh yes, I had a typographical error with the word "precepts" by reversing a couple letters and you saw fit to point that out! I mean, OK, so not a paragraph later you spelled cheese with a Z (which isn't typographical), but good thing you took the time to point out a typographical error in a word that you probably had to look up to begin with.
Clearly, a real high caliber mind we're dealing with. :roll eyes:

I mean, the sort of person who seriously parses down posts into sentence-by-sentence, quid-quo-pro replies ala 1998 BBS forums (which in turn forces all replies to be the same, which devolves the conversation into a completely incoherent mess) usually isn't amongst the best and brightest, but if there was any question, that right there pretty much cements it.

So PizzaC isn't 'piz zac'?
Well, let's see, it means Pizza CHEEZE? or Pizza CINCINNATTI? or Pizza CHEAP?, or again.. - Piz Zac?

Right. It isn't piz zac, unless you're a complete drooling moron. And the fact that it can indeed be Pizza Cheese or Pizza Cincinnati or Pizza Cheap is a large part of it's brandability strength given the cost metrics that would be involved with securing it.

??? I realize you may not be up on this yet, but 'm' is for mobile, and as some are real keyed up on 'm dots' for mobile sites, I, and others, can see not only 'm' coming into play, but because it could be a typo of an 'm dot' site, perhaps even desirable for those who have those names for 'brand protection'.

You must've posted that after I edited my post. I know that M is for "mobile" and I believe it has value over a random letter, but it's still highly speculative and the people who are "hot" on it are probably the ones who don't own any good mobey extensions.

Of course not. Yet look up any 'keywordSUFFIX' name, insuranceG., LoansQ. etc, and 95%, or more, of them are only parked pages, not 'developed' sites.

:rolls eyes:
You must be new to this.
I remember when 95% of LLL.com's were "parked pages". Heck, I remember when about half of all really good pure dictionary words were "parked pages". Instead of asking yourself "WHY ARE ALL THESE PARKED PAGES???" why don't you pause to ask yourself "Hmmm, why are all these NOT AVAILABLE FOR REGISTRY?"

And I'll probably get more for my eAutoLoans.com than you would for your PizzaC or ChairsW. But... then, maybe not. ..maybe not!

It's 100% certain that you would get more for eautoloans than someone would get for PizzaC.com. You aren't even making any kind of a point there by saying that.

It's like if I own esoftware.com and someone says HAHAHAHA! THAT WON'T BRING 1/100th OF WHAT SEX.COM WOULD!!!???!!!

The fact that you even said something like that shows how incredibly unsophisticated your perspective is on this game and really, that you're kinda stupid.

 

[hawkeye]

^ Yep you're the domain genius. And thanks for your 'substantiated insight', and condescending comments. (Very classy!) We all can learn from you and your ...., well ...I'm sure there's 'something'! Oh yeah.., insults!! It's amazing what one's moniker and avatar can tell about someone. Keep regging them keyword suffixes, the registrars love it!

 

[namenut]

Hello what do you guys think about domain name prefix e and i? Which one is better e or i?

I like them both. I tend to learn toward the "i" prefix and the "X, Z" suffix.
It's a way to brand a name and establish a niche use. The "e" for me represents
more of commerce or commercial site. Thus the use "e-commerce". "M" is
commonly used for "mobile" distinction.

I hold:

iPhaqs - A Phrequently asked Questions site (incomplete)
iLaw - "i" for Internet Law, International Law, Interactive Law...
iDancer - Again Interactive, internet, international etc ...
XstreamX - Here the "X" can be used as an adult connotation or satellite

So there are applications and you just gotta have a feel for the use.
Or you can PM a trusted member for feedback prior to buying.

Good luck and much success


NN

I just bought iran(letter-suffix).com - something like IranW.com
IMO, these single letter variety prefixes (which I usually prefer, but in some cases I will take suffixes)) are just ridiculously good values in the year 2009. Obviously, there is only one keyword.com. There are only two "standard" prefixes- E and I, so ekeyword and ikeyword.com.

That leaves a remaining 24 letter prefixes in the whole wide world for any given pure keyword.

Some of them cause a disruption with the flow of pronunciation (for example, goranges.com or pireland.com) meaning that the remaining letter prefix/suffix domains that don't (OrangesB.com or xireland.com) leave a hugely open ended dev possibility for very cheap with a near bullseye keyword .com.

IMO, In 10 years, people will look back on the days when they could get single letter prefix/suffix domains like "chairsw.com" or "rtables.com" for closeout prices and kick themselves for not buying. Of course, not that I care if they do or not. More for me :D :D :D

I understand what you are saying. And to some degree I'll concede
to the validity. But your time frame is a bit off IMO... Maybe in 25 / 35
years the domain name base will be so depleted that the extreme you
are modeling will come into effect.

I also differ with the school of thought that any random letters
are sound future investments. To date the letters that are popular
are so because of some marketing by a product or service. So the
idea that you can harvest all keywords with a random letter suffix
and hold them until the day a movie, product, song or service will
instantly bring "that" letter to value is at best an extreme view.
Further to hold them until all other end user options are exhausted
is also near futile IMO.

Don't get me wrong I like certain names with prefix and suffix letters.
I hold a few and I hope to set up a site for listing such names. I just
think there needs to be a very short term and current association
between the "keyword" and the added "letter".

Good luck ...

Kind regards
NN

 

[GreenGambler]

IMO, the i and e prefixes make perfect sense and have been being used for quite a few years now. People generally know that it means that it has something to do with the internet or being online, etc. Soem other letters as prefixes don't make as much sense to me.

 

[Jaco]

I hold a few and I hope to set up a site for listing such names.

Please advise when you do. I would join in a second, mainly as a buyer.

 

[labrocca]

I think I like you Dongsman.

mPizzas.com

Would it make more sense as Mobile Pizzas or Miama Pizzas, Maine Pizzas, Michigan Pizzas, and such. Mobile Pizzas....hmm...can't seem to really believe as a prefix it works as mobile.

I can't say I fully agree with Dongsman about prefix/suffix future value. I wouldn't bank 10% of my portfolio on it. I think I have just one domain...ithumbnails.com. As for which is better...i vs e. Tough call imho but I would lean toward the e because of high profile sites like etrade or ebay. Oddly the e (electronic?) makes less sense than the i (internet?).

 

[hawkeye]

I think I like you Dongsman...

(hmm, more blanks filled in.)

mPizzas.com

Would it make more sense as Mobile Pizzas or Miama Pizzas, Maine Pizzas, Michigan Pizzas, and such. Mobile Pizzas....hmm...can't seem to really believe as a prefix it works as mobile.

..

Now, now labrocca. According to some 'berating logic' slung here, "if you struggle to see the generic brandability value in that" - 'mPizzas' means MahattanPizzas, I mean MichiganPizzas, I mean Minneso..., well it's so easy to see..it's a brandable!!
(hey, it was during the 'Pizza.com' craze. I was up late!)

Funny you don't see 'm' meaning mobile, but you do see 'v' meaning 'video'. I mean 'virtual'! ..I mean 'Viag..' lol!

 

[namenut]

Please advise when you do. I would join in a second, mainly as a buyer.

Will do .... and it should be soon. I'm looking for the designer right now.

i N a m e z . c o m

Last year I sold several "i" names. And as I said I still hold a few. I see
a good future market of "said" type of names. With out a facetious
bone in my body.

NN

 

[WordWalker]

I like these alot. Here are some of the domains (.com) I've registered over the past few years:

iAgreed
iAircondition
eAstronaut
eAudiophile
iAuthorship
eAvatars
eBrainteaser
eCatching
eCharade
eChildproof
iCoauthor
iCosts
iCounteroffer
iDangle
eDaydream
iDebunk
iDetailers
iDistill
eFailsafe
iFourwheel
iFumigate
iGaragesales
iGasmileage
eGassaver
iHunch
eHypnotize
eJoyride
eLandfill
iLeaseback
eLifesaving
iLipsync
iLovemaking
eLuau
eMoviereleases
iOust
eOutlines
iOvernight
iPunish
ePursue
iRattle
eReactions
iRustproof
iSailboard
iSatisfaction
iSchlep
eSeance
iSedate
eSilkscreen
eSilversmith
eSlumber
eSteamy
iSubpoena
iSunburn
eTelecommute
iTelethon
iTieup
iTransmittal
iUnclog
iUnwind
iWiretap
eWishbone
eWoofer
eWordplay
iWrangle

Also a few other prefixes:

uMerchandise
uRepay
uTelecast

zNewspaper
zDomainnames

 

[DubDubDubDot]

I like these alot. Here are some of the domains (.com) I've registered over the past few years:

...

Fire sale time. You won't get reg fee for 90% of those.

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I just bought iran(letter-suffix).com - something like IranW.com
IMO, these single letter variety prefixes (which I usually prefer, but in some cases I will take suffixes)) are just ridiculously good values in the year 2009.

This is worse than the LLLL .com buyout.

The only way bKeyword.com sees the value you say it will and gets developed along with cKeyword.com, pKeyword.com, yKeyword.com, etc... is if brand identity suddenly becomes meaningless.

 

[Jaco]

Fire sale time. You won't get reg fee for 90% of those.

Having trouble following along?
Most of these reg's are future value oriented. The beauty is, we both get to place our bets and eventually, find out who's right and who's wrong. And actually, I bet he beats reg on more than 10% of those right now.

This is worse than the LLLL .com buyout.

The only way bKeyword.com sees the value you say it will and gets developed along with cKeyword.com, pKeyword.com, yKeyword.com, etc... is if brand identity suddenly becomes meaningless.

^ No, not really ^, presuming the prefix/suffix letter in question is relevant to the brand or product. For example, FordB.com could very easily be Ford Blog. Or Ford Boston. Obviously, Tom Smith Ford in Tupelo, MS probably wouldn't be a good choice for FordA.com, but John Smith Ford Atlanta would be. It would be another tool in the marketing arsenal, affording an ultra short, hard-hitting relevant keyword alongside other longtail, product/business specific domains.

 

[seeker]

Having trouble following along?
Most of these reg's are future value oriented. The beauty is, we both get to place our bets and eventually, find out who's right and who's wrong. And actually, I bet he beats reg on more than 10% of those right now.

I guess in 20 years chairsw pizzav and the like might go for the equivalent of 2X reg fee.
The concept, although admirable, is a lost cause.
Stick to what the market knows. e.i, and if you really are desperate, m and v

 

[DubDubDubDot]

presuming the prefix/suffix letter in question is relevant to the brand or product. For example, FordB.com could very easily be Ford Blog.

So you are going to register a bunch of [keyword][random].com's hoping that one day a developer associated with the keyword will have a meaning for the random letter. That sounds like a very dangerous gamble.

 

[Jaco]

I guess in 20 years chairsw pizzav and the like might go for the equivalent of 2X reg fee.

I definitely disagree (which is pretty obvious by now )

I go back just far enough to remember conversations like "What in gods name would anyone ever want with QXS.com? I mean, yeah, it's short, but who cares? WHAT DOES IT MEAN? QUEER XYLOPHONE SEX? "

"Yeah, I suppose freeporn.net might be worth something to someone someday, but it's a .net for christs sakes..."

Or, in my professional field... "Are you kidding me? Real estate has more upside today (2006) than it did fifteen years ago! It doesn't matter when the ARMs reset and sub-sub-subprime buyers lose their houses because the values of the underlying properties will always rise more than enough to offset the costs associated with the default!"

It all comes back to that simple truism- most peoples intellect works by 'association'- they can only resolve things in their minds that have already been done. If something hasn't already been done, they're totally unable to estimate it's prospect future value given the abstract, qualitative nature of future circumstance and it's interplay with relevant (yet undefined) probability.

Like I said. The beauty of this is, we can all place our bets (just like the people who bothered to buy "useless" LLL's or "second tier" .net keywords) and see who wins in the end.

So you are going to register a bunch of [keyword][random].com's hoping that one day a developer associated with the keyword will have a meaning for the random letter. That sounds like a very dangerous gamble.

LOL!
Yeah, you really "get it". Good job!

 

[steveteva]

Talking about i and e I see that imotels.com is available on snapnames min bid 5 thousand dollar in auction.

 

[RTM]

I think some of those names are worth perhaps $xx to low $xxx undeveloped - but as I've said over the years... build it!

We sold eRegistrars.com a while back, but only after holding on to it a few years and making revenue off it (as a domain name registrar service / guide)...

Rob

 

[shockie]

ok, so when do you propose that this "end" is where we can see who's bets are/were right? how many years from now should we wait until we refer back to this thread and see? :blink:

 

[Jaco]

ok, so when do you propose that this "end" is where we can see who's bets are/were right? how many years from now should we wait until we refer back to this thread and see? :blink:

I'd say ten years, as far as the unproductive "buy-and-hold" $6.95 speculation that's common amongst "domainers".

My interest in them is inclined a bit more towards the developers perspective and the value they offer in that regard, but yeah, I'd say about the same amount of time it's taken to get us from 1999 to the present day should be about right for keyword prefix/suffix to accelerate nicely, barring some drastic shift in search algos or if we go completely speech-to-text by that time...

 

[alcy]

so....... 10 years later...

anyone having luck selling these or gettng offers?

I think they gained great value in .com... saw bunch of sales..

how about in .io?

I own

icompany
.io


cheers