Doing the right thing

[LeeRyder]

Sometimes being a man is not easy. It takes fortitude of profound and legendary quality to be all things to all people. But, in my mind... if you do the right thing, everytime your able to at all costs.. you at least will break even in life.

Even at the expense of your own life.

Sometimes, no matter how much it hurts you.. you have to live up to the facts of life and admit defeat in that there is nothing you can do....

Which Brings this post to the topic of Terri Schiavo. Today, the feeding tube was removed by court order for Terri despite an act of congress barring it (she was called to address congress next week, a local judge in florida still ordered her tube to be removed knowing this was just a way to buy time for her life.)

When her tube was being removed, her attorney was a witness to this: Her sister told Terri they were removing her tube, the time had come and that Terri had to say that she wants to live... or she will die.

Terri began to cry. Terri screamed "IIIIII". but could manage no other words.

The Tube was removed from her arm. The murder of Terri will take 10 to 14 days to finish.

It is so barbaric, so horrific that we are justifying to the American people, by rule of law.. this horrid method of sanctioned murder of Brian damaged people.

Murderers get pain medication and put to sleep before the act of putting them to death instantainiously ensues.

I urge you, men, women and all.. to please.. for all that is right... FIGHT FOR TERRI for all that is good. Or we as a nation have lost our soul.

There will be no getting it back.

There are limited things I can think of to effectively "stay" her execution for now:

1) Invade the hospice. Though she is under Police watch, they can only stop so many people. If.. no..when you get arrested... immediately have your attorney CALL TERRI AS A WITNESS TO YOUR DEFENSE. This will force the courts to replace her feeding tube.

2) Sue Terri! Go to your attorney and press charges against her. This will cause her to be legally a ward of the court and out of her husbands hands..thereby forcing them to replace the tube.

there are other methods, but ..you know.. not legal.

Her husband, if he were to die in some way... would of course no longer have any say as to what happens to her and liability for terri would fall into her parents hands.
Im not asking anyone to kill him.. im just wondering why no one hasnt yet.

I mean, dying by a 38 to the brain instantly is surely less cruel than starving someone to death.

of course.. if you called the florida police and told them I posted a hit out for mr schiavo.. i would be arrested and ...would have to call Terri as a witness...

food for thought.

Apathy is our own worst enemy.

 

[True_Snake]

This story has been gaining media attraction here too, and probably around the world. I am also disgusted at the fact that they are going to starve a poor lady to death, even when they don't have concrete evidence saying that she does not want to live in a "vegitative state".

As one person on a news channel, might have been CNN, said yesterday, that saving life is more important than the marriage. I think he was trying to say that her parents' wishes to save life are more important and "heavy" than her husband's view.

I hope something gets done to put the tube back so that Terri can survive.

Truly Disgusted...
True_Snake

 

[Sabre]

This is the first that ive heard, and i have to say, this is truely disgusting!

Its not her fault!

Do we now value human life so little that we can kill someone in this way??!

Sickening, IMO.

 

[True_Snake]

Do we now value human life so little that we can kill someone in this way??!

Exactly; I don't see how the judges could so easily let someone die. I look at it as capital punishment, IMHO. Except that Terri didn't committ a crime.


True_Snake

 

[Sabre]

I mean, think if that was your mother....

Would you happily sit by and watch events unfold?

If i was american, id be leading my own little demonstration outside the hospice....

Seriously... this really makes me angry....

How would they feel if they were in Terris position, helpless.....

 

[-db-]

I was in a similar situation with a loved one. It was not exactly the same scenario, but close enough to know first hand all the emotions and personal struggle involved in making decisions that will undoubtedly effect how long the person lives, and/or suffers.

I understand both sides, and the completely overwhelming sadness and grief.

For personal reasons I don't want to go into details about my family. I also don't want to give my opinion on that other family's situation because it's not my place to do so, and I know how I felt when outsiders tried to get involved in our situation.

I will say two things though....

1. Asking somebody to stop feeding their loved one; to stop giving their body the nutrients it needs to survive, is asking a lot, no matter how hopeless things seem. For some, it's an easy decision. They see it as saving the person from continued suffering, and not prolonging the inevitable. For others though, they see it as giving up all hope. They feel as long as there is a glimmer of life, there is a chance for a medical miracle, or perhaps God might intervene.

2. If indeed a person is going to die no matter what, why should we starve them, and make their suffering even worse? Why can't we have them put to sleep, and end it quickly? Some say that human life is so valuable, that even the thought of 'putting down' a person is inhumane and barbaric. Yet they don't find it inhumane and barbaric to starve them, and watch them slowly get weaker and suffer more until they die. Does that make sense? Is it a contradiction?

I can't say which side I fall on, because the truth is - I understand them both, and despite having to watch my loved one pass away, and our family having to make certain decisions, I still don't know for sure that we did the right thing. Then again, I'm not sure there is a right thing. Every situation like this is different. So deep, so involved, so complicated. At the end of the day I put my faith in God, my family, my friends and myself. I do the best I can. That's all any of us can do.

I hope that this girl and her family find some peace.

I hope that none of you ever have to be in a similar situation.

I hope that we as humans, can grow both mentally and spiritually, and find better answers.

Sincerely,
Tim (-db-)

 

[Jammer]

Well Lee,for the very first time,I'd have to agree with you on this one.

 

[.X.]

This is inhuman,starving her to death is the most cruel thing.And it really bothers me.They would'nt starve a death roll inmate,But they will allow this to happen.She is definatly in my prayers,Godbless her.This is far more than sad.

 

[Dave_Z]

At the end of the day I put my faith in God, my family, my friends and myself. I do the best I can. That's all any of us can do.

Aptly put, Tim. I can't say anything better than that.

 

[dgridley]

I had to make the decision to remove my mother from life support in 1997. It's not an easy decision to make, for anyone involved, including the doctors, but sometimes it's the "right" decision. I feel for both sides in this situation.

However, not being privy to Terri's wishes in the matter, I don't know the answer... hopefully the right one will be made.

 

[True_Snake]

From Yahoo.COM

Congressional leaders announced a compromise between Senate and House Republicans that would allow the brain-damaged woman's case to be reviewed by federal courts that could restore her feeding tube. Opposition waned after House leaders agreed to give up broader legislation and accept a narrowly crafted bill that applied only to Schiavo's case.

So the tube is going to be reinserted.




True_Snake

 

[Mark]

It is definitely a tough position to be in for all Parties involved. I won't take sides in this particular case as I am not involved and don't know all the particulars ... But wouldn't you feel guilty later if you Held on to your loved one out of Selfishness ? I'm not saying I condone helping people with ending their life or anything - But lots of folks hold on Because they don't want to go through the "Loss" and most of the time it is just Prolonging their loved one's suffering. I Definitely woudn't want to go through this myself ~ and feel for anyone who's had to make these decisions

Bless them all ~

 

[LeeRyder]

well.. I dont want to get into the logistics of our fellow NP members situations with loved ones, but this (Terri's) case is unique in that she is not on life support or otherwise bein artificially supported and her body forced to live. (ie; brain dead, repirator or some other means).

She simply has a feeding tube because it is the easiest way for the hospital to feed hear. she can eat on her own given the opportunity to do so.

(sympathies to those that have been in the other situations though)

 

[Aajiz]

From Yahoo.COM



So the tube is going to be reinserted.




True_Snake

Pleased and relieved to hear that (Provided it is implemented!!)

Regards

 

[Qwert]

Why does she have to be killed? As long as someone is willing to support her why can't she live?

 

[.X.]

well.. I dont want to get into the logistics of our fellow NP members situations with loved ones, but this (Terri's) case is unique in that she is not on life support or otherwise bein artificially supported and her body forced to live. (ie; brain dead, repirator or some other means).

She simply has a feeding tube because it is the easiest way for the hospital to feed hear. she can eat on her own given the opportunity to do so.

(sympathies to those that have been in the other situations though)

Well said,And i can not agree with you more.

 

[LeeRyder]

Qwert.

Her husband says she "wouldnt have wanted to live like this
Her parents (who want to take care of her personally) insist she enver stipulated such things and that as a catholic would never commit suicide or the condoning of killing someone.

if is all very very complex. much more so than I have posted here, but what stands to truth is the fact that there are people who will take care of her, she reacts and acts to people..etc. She "plays practical jokes" laughs with jokes people tell her..etc.

her husband insists she is essentially a vegetable.
Her husbands motivs though are clear. Insurance settlement in Terri's name. She dies, he gets to keep the money.

He claims to be a loving husband.
He has been romantically involved with another women since approx 6 months after Terri's Brain condition happened.

 

[Qwert]

I know, why is there even a court case though? I am sure her parents would take care of her, she should live with them. Weather or not she's brain dead she is still a human and can live with who she wants (and it's obdivious who that is) so she with her parents instead of with her husband...

 

[Rob]

Not heard anything about it here in the Sunny UK.

 

[Qwert]

Not heard anything about it here in the Sunny UK.

Did you expect to? If it was in UK we wouldn't here about it in US.