Does anyone here know John Steiner?

[FitLike?]

I have been trying to contact this guy about ripping my site, but no reply. So I have sent a C&D, and intend to follow it through to finality. Contacted the registrar Godaddy and will be going the DMCA route too.

I discovered that my legal forms and templates site www.Anydocs.co.uk was ripped by this guy at www.theonlinelegalforms.com
No attempt was made to change the design or anything. The only thing he changed was the copyright at the bottom and the google adsense code (His adsense account will soon be closed)
All his documents available for download are exact copies of mine, but he has changed the copyright in the footer.

You will also notice that my site is not yet complete, and only half of my documents have been made available onlinefor download to date... You might also notice that his site is at the same development stage as mine Funny that Eh?

I'll complete www.Anydocs.co.uk - Free legal and business documents templates once this issue is resolved with this charlatan.

I'm posting this on domain forums because according to domaintools whois, John Steiner owns 99 other domains, so I'm sure he is part of one of the domain communities.

I'd appreciate it if any premium members of domaintools can enlighten me with his other domains.

The C&D was sent late last year, and the site was taken down. But I just checked again and it is back up.

A personal visit is out of the question for now as his address is in California.

Strange for a guy from California to be running a website with UK legal forms downloads LOL

Good investigators required. I'm not bad at chasing trails online, but any more help would be appreciated.

Stand up and show yourself John

Registrant Data for infringing site is

John Steiner
65 Palatine #118
Irvine, California 92612
United States

I hope this is a correct whois, because a US address means a lot of reparation coming to me

Anydocs - Free legal and business documents templates makes a few bucks a day with adsense, so I'm sure this guy is profiting with my material, and I plan to recoup my losses somehow.

If any of you guys want to confirm in this thread that my site has been ripped, that would be great, as John Steiner may change his site at any time.

I have asked his host to close the site, I've contacted godaddy requesting the domain is handed over to me this time, and I've contacted google regarding showing his adsense on a copyrighted site.

Cheers

 

[westsider]

Go for it!!!

 

[FitLike?]

Just found another site of his www.corewd.com

I'm on the trail now

I'm going to keep adding to this thread as I find out more info.

Found another site operated by John Steiner of Orange County, California.

www.corecso.com

Looks like he is trying to operate as a legitimate businessman. My mission is to ruin his reputation and/or credibility until he complies with my C&D of last year.

 

[Len]

Another website of his: http://john-steiner.com/

 

[tonyfloyd]

complete BS!!!.....rip this guy to threads......freaking 20 yr old punk!

 

[FitLike?]

Thanks Len

Gives me some more info on him.

This is the official website of John Steiner. I'm 20 years old and reside in Orange County, California. I am working on my BBA in Finance. For more information about me, you can send me an email.

"Core Solutions" is also used as a whois for JOHNSTEINER.ORG which is a site mentioned on http://john-steiner.com/

"Core Solutions" owns about 35 other domains
Registrant Name:John Steiner
Registrant Organization:Core Solutions
Registrant Street1:2052 Newport Blvd., #6
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Costa Mesa
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:92627
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.9496797664
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected]

 

[FitLike?]

Some more info on John Steiner.

Thanks for all the input and help guys. I'll grind this guy down.

www.CANCERADVICE.ORG
www.SCHOLARLYARTICLES.ORG
www.DISNEY-GAMES.ORG
www.STARWARS-GAMES.INFO
www.INUYASHAGAMES.INFO
www.CARTOONNETWORKGAMES.INFO
www.SONIC-GAMES.ORG
www.GOOGLE-GAMES.ORG
www.NEWGROUNDSGAMES.ORG
www.GAMESMARIO.INFO
www.RACE-GAMES.ORG
www.FASHION-GAMES.ORG
www.NARUTOGAMES.ORG
www.MSN-GAMES.ORG
www.JOHNSTEINER.ORG
www.ONLINENARUTOGAMES.ORG
www.NARUTOONLINEGAMES.ORG
www.DISNEYCHANNELGAMES.INFO
www.STICK-GAMES.ORG
www.EWOBBLE.COM

What happens when someone clicks multiple times from 1 IP across a range of domains owned and operated by 1 person? I see google adsense ads on almost all his domains.

I'm not suggesting people multi click on all his sites, perish the thought LOL, I'm just enquiring as to how long his adsense account was to remain active if people DID multi click across his domains

 

[FitLike?]

I've filed a DMCA notice with his host bluehost, but his site is still up.

Next action is to file a DMCA notice with google and have it removed from search results, and hopefully have his adsense account closed.

Some more sites belonging to John Steiner

www.BACKGROUNDLAYOUTCODES.COM
www.ATARCADE.COM (regged to Tara Steiner, same address)
www.WODST.COM

 

[Mark]

Please do not even suggest "multi-clicks" or anything like that here ...

Two wrongs do not make a right - And I don't personally trust PPC Companies of any size to actually Not charge the advertisers for such childish acts to be honest. Whether his account would be closed or not - Stuff like that hurts all of us in the long run.

I've had click bombs dropped on me over pretty much nothing in the past - It's not cool no matter what the reasoning is behind it.

 

[FitLike?]

I'm not advocating this at all, I'm also an advertiser and stuff like this hurts everyone.

I filed the DMCA with his host this morning, and they have now suspended his site.

I'm expecting it to be put back online with another host though, so I'm keeping an eye on it.

 

[FitLike?]

I've got to ROFL at this.
Just received a reply from John Steiner. Very funny.

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Hi,



Well, we've noticed that you've duplicated our sites design and since we're quite busy manage multiple other sites of higher profile, rather than pursue any legal damages we've decided to simply send the design back to our developer for it to be redesigned. Our sites no longer have any graphical similarities. All the legal documents are not only ours but public domain as well so as for us pursuing legal action in that regard, we have no rights, the graphics you are using, however, do happen to be ours and rather than take legal actions we would simply like to ask that you remove the graphics in question as a simple courtesy to its rightful owner. Any textual similarities have also been changed at our own discretion because we do not want to be penalized with Google for you duplication of our site, however, since we have no legal rights to these short snippets since you have modified them slightly we won't request that you to change them any further. Due to the difficulties of proving us proving the rightful ownership of the content in question, rather than pursue any actions against you we have simply decided to change any possibly questionable material to save us both time. As for your domain, since it does not contain "TheOnlineLegalForms" string, we will be unable to pursue any legal claims even if we wanted to so we won't request any transfer of ownership for the domain. Basically, we consider all possible conflicting material resolved and we are disappointed that you have duplicated our site, however, for the sake of saving us both time and money we have decided to consider this matter settled. If you have any questions, feel free to e-mail me back at THIS address as I've notice you've had plenty of free time sending e-mails to multiple e-mail addresses (for a site that you duplicate, non-the-less) as well as posting slanderous posts in forums, however, this too we have decided to ignore for the plain and simple reason that this site is quite simply not a large revenue source for us to make any efforts to pursue actions at this time as it would be time wasted doing other more important work in establishing and marketing our other sites. Questions should be directed to THIS e-mail in regards to this issue – I’m in midterms week until March 28 so I may lag a bit, but I will get back to you, but we consider this issue resolved, we’d like to hear from you if you do make the changes though.



Thank you,

John

John,

Are you aware that my site is on Archive.org, with this design and material, BEFORE, you even registered your domain. This is a slanderous/libelous email that you are now accusing ME of theft.

See you in court buddy.

P.S.

www.XWEBDEVELOPMENT.COM is another site by the rip off merchant John Steiner.

 

[Seabass]

What a total punk.

He acts like if he mentions court action several times he will scare you.

I would follow this to the end and sue his f'n ass totally. I taken guys like this down in the past and you can too. It's just a matter of filing and going through the motions.

He is totally bluffing. What a loser.
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[bobguindon]

Funny, I can't locate 'www.theonlinelegalforms.com' on archive.org.

It would be a shame if someone reported all of his domains with embedded trademarks to the respective trademark owners. Might keep his 'legal' department busy, for a while...

Bob

 

[FitLike?]

Funny, I can't locate 'www.theonlinelegalforms.com' on archive.org.

It would be a shame if someone reported all of his domains with embedded trademarks to the respective trademark owners. Might keep his 'legal' department busy, for a while...

Bob

Aye, I'm on that too.

Will be dropping a line to Disney in the first instance They are notorious for defending their copyright.

John Steiner has committed online suicide by trying to turn things around and BLAMING ME for copying his design and wording

I can only say thank you to archive.org, what a wonderful service they provide in cases like this

 

[!LLu$!0N]

It makes you wonder if all of his sites are copied, it can't be hard to rip a load of site designs + content then class it as your own and gain from Google Adsense.

I hope this gets sorted for you, i'd help but i'm no good with situations like this.

Jamie

 

[Miyavi]

This thread is thoroughly entertaining. I am happy you aren't letting him get away with this, FitLike. I have no respect whatsoever for people who rip content/design, let alone those who do it and claim it as their own.

Best of luck to you. Please keep us updated.

 

[exponent]

Directly from John-Steiner .com:

Career
Looking into a career in Corperate Finance; my degree in Finance has emphasis placed on Corperate & International Finance allowing me to possibly persue a career in Imports and Exports.

I think John needs to spend time reading a dictionary instead of copy-theiving.

 

[Seabass]

I just tried to call him and his phone number is disconnected. I was going to give him hell on this Sunday morning.

The domain john-steiner.com is with Godaddy . Call Godaddy and tell them you want to officially complain about the bogus contact info. and tell them to make him correct it. If he does not correct it he will lose the domain.

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[FitLike?]

I just tried to call him and his phone number is disconnected. I was going to give him hell on this Sunday morning.

The domain john-steiner.com is with Godaddy . Call Godaddy and tell them you want to officially complain about the bogus contact info. and tell them to make him correct it. If he does not correct it he will lose the domain.

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Nice one seabass

I think he is now in the process of moving his site to a new host, the nameservers now reflect biohost, because I got bluehost to suspend his site.

I'm thinking he is going to try and be a stubborn little boy and put the site back online again. I hope he does LOL, he will just be feeding the rope to his own noose

I'm going to get on to godaddy about the contact info, thanks for the heads up on that one.
I'm also going to be pushing for the name to be handed over to me, because I have a feeling this kid will just keep using it with my content, and switching hosts when I get him shut down.
I can't be arsed monitoring this domain every few weeks, so I'm going for a complete handover, including admin costs for monitoring

 

[Seabass]

Nice one seabass

I think he is now in the process of moving his site to a new host, the nameservers now reflect biohost, because I got bluehost to suspend his site.

I'm thinking he is going to try and be a stubborn little boy and put the site back online again. I hope he does LOL, he will just be feeding the rope to his own noose

I'm going to get on to godaddy about the contact info, thanks for the heads up on that one.
I'm also going to be pushing for the name to be handed over to me, because I have a feeling this kid will just keep using it with my content, and switching hosts when I get him shut down.
I can't be arsed monitoring this domain every few weeks, so I'm going for a complete handover, including admin costs for monitoring

I don't think you can get them to hand over the domain. You'd have to go to UDRP for that.

You can monitor the domain for changes in contact info. if you have an account with DomainTools.com. If anything changes, like address, email, etc....DomainTools fires off an email to you to let you know.

Once you get the "correct" info. you can go after him easier.....if he does not change the info. or keeps providing bogus info. Godaddy will delete the domain. Just keep complaining to Godaddy.

Here is how you do it.....go to Godaddy and do a Whois search for John-Stiener.com or any of his other domains and when you see the contact info. verify the info. is bogus. After you do that look towards the bottom of the page and you will see a link that says, "Report Invalid Whois" . Use that link to complain directly to Godaddy. Easy as pie.
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