Labeled as poll in NamePros Help and Feedback, started by Jimmysun, Feb 24, 2020
Well how bout' just like a straight-up "No" option on the vote there..
No. It's fine as it is
just feel a little old, wondering how others feel.
My opinion is it's fine as is. @Paul Buonopane does a great job with custom tweaks and other IT matters.
Well we all have our days..
I think Np's interface is more complex to view/run than we give credit for, a lot we take for granted to be sure.
What do you mean by interface?
Do you refer to their use of XenForo forum software? The only bug I notice is that often when someone likes your post in a thread and also replies to that same thread that you are watching, you receive only the like notification. In any case XenForo software is set there’s not much Paul B or anyone else outside of XenForo may do to alter its core. There are hacks/modifications that may be added but otherwise it’s set. It remains just a XenForo forum.
I think @Jimmysun is only referring to the theme/style, not the underlying software or functionality.
I voted no...too many sites trying to conform to the 'trend' in streamlining. I don't have any desire to try and learn a new interface, theme and/or style. Lets leave well enough alone.
Just refer to the UI design and some sort of dynamic pop up window.
I kind of miss Rob Monsters "This thread is stupid" among options to vote for. That should be included in every poll.
If so I’d use as stock XenForo a theme as possible. If what we have here is stock, I’d stick with it.
First time making a poll, it's a good idea to put a "This thread is stupid"
You know, the experience might be different depending on your device. Wholly recommend everyone just get a desktop, then no one has to change a thing.
The general appearance is close, but we've been gradually modernizing portions of it over time. In particular, any aspects of the stock style that are likely to lead to decreased performance or usability are liable to be changed. But overall, it still looks pretty close to stock.
Smartphones are ubiquitous these days; more and more NamePros members are using the site from their phones. It's usually not a huge issue, but it does mean we need to do additional testing for any changes. Legacy browsers are a far more serious problem than smartphones.
It looks fine now imo, you should have seen it many years ago.
other than trying to find the specific thread you are looking for, its an excellent interface.
some days ago I was looking for any discussion about tokens.com thread in the search bar I couldn't be satisfied with the search results, I kind of remember I saw some people were discussing it maybe I was in the illusion.
My experience has been that any modifications to skins do not improve performance they just are visual changes and if anything lead to issues as the forum software or php is upgraded over time. I would stick to a 100% stock theme.
I remember back when I had my big music forum the only thing you had to worry about was desktop. As monitors improved and the super-majority of users went from 640px to 800px then to 1080px you could hack the heck out of your forum and add more and more stuff. I remember hacking my vB forum to death. But with the new reality of PC, tablet, mobile it's got to be a nightmare to tinker with anything visual.
So considering NP is already significantly hacked (behind the scenes), I don't think it's realistic to expect any significant theme modifications as well. As it stands it's likely a pretty big pain each time the forum software updates.
There are definitely performance issues with the stock theme. For example, we've substantially decreased the time to FCP, as the vanilla theme lacked a modern approach to handling resources--many of the technologies we used to accomplish that didn't exist when the theme was first written (or weren't widely adopted).
Upgradability of themes isn't a major concern in our case. We've forked and rewritten large chunks of XenForo already; that's a far bigger barrier to upgrading than themes. Many of our theme changes are implemented as XenForo's "template modifications" through add-ons, rather than manual changes directly to the templates, which makes upgrading templates pretty easy.
Keep in mind, vanilla XenForo isn't really designed for a site of our size. It doesn't scale well out-of-the-box, and even with their enhanced search add-on, you can see pretty clearly that they didn't think through things like search from the perspective of a large forum. Some large forums solve this by just throwing beefier hardware at the problem, but that's relatively rigid, fragile solution. (What do you do if the whole datacenter goes down?)
Don't be afraid to request visual/UI changes--those are among the easiest changes for us to implement, with relatively little long-term overhead. Major functionality changes are far more time-consuming and have a greater impact on upgradability.
Theme modifications are among the easiest we can make. As for the "hacks", they're stored in the form of a patch queue. When we upgrade, we simply reapply all the patches automatically. This doesn't work for major version upgrades, though--for those, we have to rewrite everything, including add-ons and our patches.
Don't worry about the viability of changes when requesting them. If a change will be difficult to implement, we'll tell you.
“If it ain't broke dont fix it”
That's a whole other thingamajig. No not an illusion, you probably did see it but hard to find via NP search. Paul's recommended using Google search otherwise what can't be located here. It's on a to-do for them too:
It's fine as it is now. But I would like to see some sort of Dark Mode available someday.
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